Honda CEO: "300HP NSX should beat Ferrari"

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lowfatbaconboy

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yea well my penis has a turbo :p :beer:

but ya i agree why the hell would you need 6 piston calipers for the brakes of a 300 hp car :p
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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I think Honda will do more than we expect, either that, or stop selling the NSX. They've got the capability and if they can get more power out of that car, then it's got a good chance at being competitive. For it's age, it's a damn fine car IMO. For today's market, it doesn't show much against a Z06 even if you're gonna complain about reliability because I'm sure the price difference will make up for reliability costs quite well.

This is a good chance at making a car with a lot of performance and nice handling for Honda if they really try
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
Wait a minute. Honda has a 2.2L I4 making 240hp. Why don't they build a 350hp 3.2L V6?

They may have I am not sure though....

The Japan laws limit a car to being rated at 290HP currently (280PS used to be the limit)

Now the Supra, VR4 and 300ZX were rated higher in America (300-320HP)...same engines.

The Skyline GT-R (the geek-favorite) is rated at 280PS but in testing outputs closer to 350PS.

These numbers are also often times the results of detuning and a simple chip change can bring about a huge power increase.

All that said most don't even give a crap.

The average car buyer whether they are shopping at the $10k or $200k mark wants 'attention'. They are thinking who will be impressed by me, it's the same as dressing, the cellphone, the gadget they are carrying.

Now the NSX is a more exclusive car. It turns heads no matter how much you hate it. The corvette is more likely to get the typical 'must have a small wiener' joke than anykind of good attention. At the bar you will hear all the 'jokes' should some poor fool decide to pull his 'vette right up to front valet parking...no matter what he is bringing to the table the inside jokes abound. I can't say I have witnessed any other car as ridiculed by women ... even riced-out F&F types fare better, fart can's and all.

Then you have the production numbers...if the NSX was sold in the same quantities as the Corvette then you'd probably see a 20-30k price reduction...maybe not so much as the Corvette also shares a ton of it's parts across the whole GM line which is extremely high production.

The Corvette was designed to be the Working American's Sports Car....the rich that drive them use them as errand-runabouts...not their weekend cruisers. For that they bring out the Ferrari, the GT2/3, the Bentley, etc....this is sort of where a new NSX falls in....in the used market values are even better (or worst if an investment was your hope).

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ectx

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The guy understands marketing:

Bad publicity is better than no publicity at all.

Does he know how to make cars? I don't know. I am not qualified to make a judgement. Honda is not doing as well as before but I haven't checked carefully either.
 

boyRacer

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
Wait a minute. Honda has a 2.2L I4 making 240hp. Why don't they build a 350hp 3.2L V6?

They may have I am not sure though....

The Japan laws limit a car to being rated at 290HP currently (280PS used to be the limit)

Now the Supra, VR4 and 300ZX were rated higher in America (300-320HP)...same engines.

The Skyline GT-R (the geek-favorite) is rated at 280PS but in testing outputs closer to 350PS.

These numbers are also often times the results of detuning and a simple chip change can bring about a huge power increase.

All that said most don't even give a crap.

The average car buyer whether they are shopping at the $10k or $200k mark wants 'attention'. They are thinking who will be impressed by me, it's the same as dressing, the cellphone, the gadget they are carrying.

Now the NSX is a more exclusive car. It turns heads no matter how much you hate it. The corvette is more likely to get the typical 'must have a small wiener' joke than anykind of good attention. At the bar you will hear all the 'jokes' should some poor fool decide to pull his 'vette right up to front valet parking...no matter what he is bringing to the table the inside jokes abound. I can't say I have witnessed any other car as ridiculed by women ... even riced-out F&F types fare better, fart can's and all.

Then you have the production numbers...if the NSX was sold in the same quantities as the Corvette then you'd probably see a 20-30k price reduction...maybe not so much as the Corvette also shares a ton of it's parts across the whole GM line which is extremely high production.

The Corvette was designed to be the Working American's Sports Car....the rich that drive them use them as errand-runabouts...not their weekend cruisers. For that they bring out the Ferrari, the GT2/3, the Bentley, etc....this is sort of where a new NSX falls in....in the used market values are even better (or worst if an investment was your hope).

Å

Well said.
 

atom

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Oct 18, 1999
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but ya i agree why the hell would you need 6 piston calipers for the brakes of a 300 hp car

Big brakes are for fade resistance, which any race car could benefit from.

http://world.honda.com/NSX/

theres a lot of Engrish on that site but it has a lot of good NSX type-r info, straight from Honda. I think it's a really nice car, of course with all options it's about the same price as a Ford GT which seemingly rapes the NSX with no lube. Also the NSX is hand built from the ground up and labor ain't cheap in Japan, so I think you're paying a huge premium for that.

If they put as much work in the new NSX as they did to the type-r I think it should be pretty smokin.

EDIT: Also have to add that the NSX is a low emissions vehicle, beat that Ferrari. :p
 

OS

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I was just thinking, the sooner this comes out, the sooner prices on the first gen NSX will collapse so that I can buy one. :D:p