honda accord vs. volvo s40?

Wheatmaster

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these cars are both really good. I would go for the volvo instead of the honda because of safety, IMO.
 

BCYL

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I would go with the Accord because of the proven reliability and re-sale value... Depending on which model you get the accord is likely cheaper too
 

Wheatmaster

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Originally posted by: BCYL
I would go with the Accord because of the proven reliability and re-sale value... Depending on which model you get the accord is likely cheaper too

the most common s40 package probably lines up with the lx v-6 accord
 

thomsbrain

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it's not like that volvo is one of the good-old-days volvos when they were really safer (and mostly because they were built like tanks). IIRC, the S40 is a rebadged ford. you need to step up the 70's if you want tried-and-true volvo engineering.
 

BCYL

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Originally posted by: Wheatmaster
Originally posted by: BCYL
I would go with the Accord because of the proven reliability and re-sale value... Depending on which model you get the accord is likely cheaper too

the most common s40 package probably lines up with the lx v-6 accord

That's why I said depeding on which model u go for, the price range is so wide between the different accord models...
 

fyleow

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You're comparing a compact sedan to a midsized sedan, you'd need to step up to the S60 to be fair IMO.
 

BCYL

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Originally posted by: thomsbrain
it's not like that volvo is one of the good-old-days volvos when they were really safer (and mostly because they were built like tanks). IIRC, the S40 is a rebadged ford. you need to step up the 70's if you want tried-and-true volvo engineering.

It's BASICALLY a rebadged Mazda 3 (with a bigger engine and I think all-wheel drive), but they share the same chassis...
 

fyleow

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Also the NCAP gave the Accord a five star crash rating for every category except roll over (it got 4 stars). Five stars is the highest and I honestly don't see how the Volvo can be any safer.
 

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Originally posted by: fyleow
Also the NCAP gave the Accord a five star crash rating for every category except roll over (it got 4 stars). Five stars is the highest and I honestly don't see how the Volvo can be any safer.

Have a roll cage?? :confused:
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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Accord

1 of our 3 cars is a honda, another is a volvo. I would pick the Honda because of resale value and reliability. Our honda is a 91, no major problems, it's at 163k miles. Our volvo OTOH, is a 96 with ~75k miles. The volvo has required quite a bit more money. If you only want to keep this car for 5 or 6 years, maintenence/repairs should be same. Actually, on Monday the volvo is going to be in for a new a/c compressor, around $1k to get it done. Surprisingly, dealer was cheapest by $200 because they get the part cheaper, if we bought it online we ran into the problem of finding a mechanic that would give any guarantee.

Also, check Toyota's safety ratings if that is what you are looking for, I know the current Lexus ES 330 has higher ratings in safety than the S80 so definetly give Toyota a check
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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Originally posted by: fyleow
Also the NCAP gave the Accord a five star crash rating for every category except roll over (it got 4 stars). Five stars is the highest and I honestly don't see how the Volvo can be any safer.

Volvo puts a lot in the technology of their's and even if one car is safer than another that got 5 stars, that one will still only get 5 stars. Newer volvo's aren't that much greater in terms of safety as the older ones are
 
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Originally posted by: BCYL
Originally posted by: thomsbrain
it's not like that volvo is one of the good-old-days volvos when they were really safer (and mostly because they were built like tanks). IIRC, the S40 is a rebadged ford. you need to step up the 70's if you want tried-and-true volvo engineering.

It's BASICALLY a rebadged Mazda 3 (with a bigger engine and I think all-wheel drive), but they share the same chassis...

You really are stretching it by saying that. Parts of the chassie might be based off it but suspention, engine and overall look and feel is Volvo.


 

fyleow

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Originally posted by: AgaBooga
Accord

1 of our 3 cars is a honda, another is a volvo. I would pick the Honda because of resale value and reliability. Our honda is a 91, no major problems, it's at 163k miles. Our volvo OTOH, is a 96 with ~75k miles. The volvo has required quite a bit more money. If you only want to keep this car for 5 or 6 years, maintenence/repairs should be same. Actually, on Monday the volvo is going to be in for a new a/c compressor, around $1k to get it done. Surprisingly, dealer was cheapest by $200 because they get the part cheaper, if we bought it online we ran into the problem of finding a mechanic that would give any guarantee.

Also, check Toyota's safety ratings if that is what you are looking for, I know the current Lexus ES 330 has higher ratings in safety than the S80 so definetly give Toyota a check

Umm no it doesn't. The S80 has five star safety ratings on every category including roll over. The ES330 has 4 stars for rear seat side impact and rollover resistance.
 
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Originally posted by: fyleow
Originally posted by: AgaBooga
Accord

1 of our 3 cars is a honda, another is a volvo. I would pick the Honda because of resale value and reliability. Our honda is a 91, no major problems, it's at 163k miles. Our volvo OTOH, is a 96 with ~75k miles. The volvo has required quite a bit more money. If you only want to keep this car for 5 or 6 years, maintenence/repairs should be same. Actually, on Monday the volvo is going to be in for a new a/c compressor, around $1k to get it done. Surprisingly, dealer was cheapest by $200 because they get the part cheaper, if we bought it online we ran into the problem of finding a mechanic that would give any guarantee.

Also, check Toyota's safety ratings if that is what you are looking for, I know the current Lexus ES 330 has higher ratings in safety than the S80 so definetly give Toyota a check

Umm no it doesn't. The S80 has five star safety ratings on every category including roll over. The ES330 has 4 stars for rear seat side impact and rollover resistance.

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fyleow

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
i dunno about that... s40's aren't tested it seems http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/NCAP/Cars.cfm

accord does ok. accord probably costs less to maintain. volvos don't look bad anymore though the volvos that do get tested don't get 5 stars in every area though.

Yeah I'm surprised the S40s aren't tested too.

The Accord EX-L V6 with navigation and XM radio is $25,700 on Carsdirect for me. The S40 T5 is $27,000(less hp, smaller, no navigation, no XM, no leather)

One is a compact luxury and the other is a mid sized economy sedan....
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
Originally posted by: fyleow
Originally posted by: AgaBooga
Accord

1 of our 3 cars is a honda, another is a volvo. I would pick the Honda because of resale value and reliability. Our honda is a 91, no major problems, it's at 163k miles. Our volvo OTOH, is a 96 with ~75k miles. The volvo has required quite a bit more money. If you only want to keep this car for 5 or 6 years, maintenence/repairs should be same. Actually, on Monday the volvo is going to be in for a new a/c compressor, around $1k to get it done. Surprisingly, dealer was cheapest by $200 because they get the part cheaper, if we bought it online we ran into the problem of finding a mechanic that would give any guarantee.

Also, check Toyota's safety ratings if that is what you are looking for, I know the current Lexus ES 330 has higher ratings in safety than the S80 so definetly give Toyota a check

Umm no it doesn't. The S80 has five star safety ratings on every category including roll over. The ES330 has 4 stars for rear seat side impact and rollover resistance.

pwned

Where did you find that?

We checked at an online government site, don't remember which since it was quite some time ago.
 

fyleow

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Originally posted by: AgaBooga
Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
Originally posted by: fyleow
Originally posted by: AgaBooga
Accord

1 of our 3 cars is a honda, another is a volvo. I would pick the Honda because of resale value and reliability. Our honda is a 91, no major problems, it's at 163k miles. Our volvo OTOH, is a 96 with ~75k miles. The volvo has required quite a bit more money. If you only want to keep this car for 5 or 6 years, maintenence/repairs should be same. Actually, on Monday the volvo is going to be in for a new a/c compressor, around $1k to get it done. Surprisingly, dealer was cheapest by $200 because they get the part cheaper, if we bought it online we ran into the problem of finding a mechanic that would give any guarantee.

Also, check Toyota's safety ratings if that is what you are looking for, I know the current Lexus ES 330 has higher ratings in safety than the S80 so definetly give Toyota a check

Umm no it doesn't. The S80 has five star safety ratings on every category including roll over. The ES330 has 4 stars for rear seat side impact and rollover resistance.

pwned

Where did you find that?

We checked at an online government site, don't remember which since it was quite some time ago.

The government website
 

fyleow

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Originally posted by: BCYL
Originally posted by: thomsbrain
it's not like that volvo is one of the good-old-days volvos when they were really safer (and mostly because they were built like tanks). IIRC, the S40 is a rebadged ford. you need to step up the 70's if you want tried-and-true volvo engineering.

It's BASICALLY a rebadged Mazda 3 (with a bigger engine and I think all-wheel drive), but they share the same chassis...

The S40 is FWD
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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Originally posted by: fyleow
Originally posted by: AgaBooga
Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
Originally posted by: fyleow
Originally posted by: AgaBooga
Accord

1 of our 3 cars is a honda, another is a volvo. I would pick the Honda because of resale value and reliability. Our honda is a 91, no major problems, it's at 163k miles. Our volvo OTOH, is a 96 with ~75k miles. The volvo has required quite a bit more money. If you only want to keep this car for 5 or 6 years, maintenence/repairs should be same. Actually, on Monday the volvo is going to be in for a new a/c compressor, around $1k to get it done. Surprisingly, dealer was cheapest by $200 because they get the part cheaper, if we bought it online we ran into the problem of finding a mechanic that would give any guarantee.

Also, check Toyota's safety ratings if that is what you are looking for, I know the current Lexus ES 330 has higher ratings in safety than the S80 so definetly give Toyota a check

Umm no it doesn't. The S80 has five star safety ratings on every category including roll over. The ES330 has 4 stars for rear seat side impact and rollover resistance.

pwned

Where did you find that?

We checked at an online government site, don't remember which since it was quite some time ago.

The government website

Ok, my bad, I was wrong. At the time we bought they hadn't tested all the parts so we had bought the Lexus based on what they had listed at the time
 

Ryan

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Originally posted by: BCYL
Originally posted by: thomsbrain
it's not like that volvo is one of the good-old-days volvos when they were really safer (and mostly because they were built like tanks). IIRC, the S40 is a rebadged ford. you need to step up the 70's if you want tried-and-true volvo engineering.

It's BASICALLY a rebadged Mazda 3 (with a bigger engine and I think all-wheel drive), but they share the same chassis...

IIRC - the the Accord has better crash test ratings that the 3 too..........
 

RagingBITCH

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We own 2 2004 Accords. Before that, my dad had a 04 Volvo V70, top of the line, as his rental before he bought his Accord. I drove it once and it just felt like crap. Of course, the V70 is a station wagon and the S40 isn't, but I wasn't impressed by it in the least bit.

Drive both and make the informed decision instead of listening to a bunch of fanbois (on both sides) - it's the only smart thing to do.
 

UNCjigga

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Does the S40 still have the trademark Volvo steel frame? I'm guessing since its a rebadged Mazda 3, it doesn't...
 

OS

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I have a 2003 accord, it pretty much has no true competitor for a car with the balance of all its' qualities. My only complaint is that the stock handling and tires kind of suck, but that isn't apparent before you start modifying the suspension/wheels like i did. It won't matter to most drivers anyways.

I have a I4 auto, the engine is strong (i could probably break into 15s at a sea level dragstrip basically stock), gas mileage is good (almost 30 mpg in mixed driving), roomy and comfortable, interior and exterior build quality can easily match cars that cost twice as much. Safety as mentioned earlier, is very good for accords. The weakness in handling can be fixed with inexpensive bolt ons and new tires if anyone else cares.

My family has owned hondas and volvos before and IMO, overall the Hondas hold together better over time. The durability of the powertrains between the volvos and hondas is pretty much a wash, but the accessories and interior pieces on the volvo don't last as long. Also, interior and exterior build quality on the hondas seem better than the volvos for semicomparable models and years.

Also as mentioned earlier, fixing volvos can get pretty expensive, particularly for parts because they are not common cars, where as I can find entire engines for my 2003 accord for $700. IMO parts for Hondas are very reasonably priced if you have a good sources.

If my car got hit and destroyed tomorrow and I was left with an insurance check for 20k, I would almost certainly go out and buy another new accord.