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Homosexuality
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haha, everything is so simple! i see the light! a book that is 2 thousand years old written by who knows who has all the answers! how could we humans be so stupid not to see that if it was written by some guys 2 thousand years ago it must be true. I think a lot of people become christians because they do not like going through the work of using their brains. That or they are brought up christian and cannot stand the thought that what they have been fed their whole life is really a bunch of junk to get people to follow some rules that some people deemed the word of an entity there is absolutely no proof of. Sure there may be a god, but I would be willing to bet with very great odds that the bible is not the word of this god.
Tim
maybe christianity doesn't teach hate, but there are a ton of christians that are very hateful, as with many non-christians. It is pretty logical that people associate a religion with some of the people that follow it. The bible shows its weakness in the fact that it can be bent towards so many different people's positions.
iwearnosox
Lifer
Ahahaha, that's the dumbest thing I've heard all day.
Funny that the churches are rife with pedophiles in preachers clothing. I'd much rather have a neighborhood of queers than bible thumpers.
iwearnosox
Lifer
Join scientology, at least it exalts the real god: money.
Kadarin
Lifer
Homosexuality is not an "act". It is a sexual preference defined by whether one is physically attracted only to members of the same sex. People can be homosexual without ever actually engaging in sexual activity. Consequently, people can engage in sexual activity with members of the same sex without being homosexual.
So are you trying to say that you dislike certain forms of sexual activity? If so, that's fine because that's your own preference.
That's not true at all. Recessive traits aren't necessarily bred out, there's just less of them. That's why you don't see 50% homosexuals. If presence, but lack of expression has no negative effect on the individual, there can be a large number of carriers.
Take for instance, the following two parents who are heterogenous carriers for a sterilizing condition that is not encoded on a specific sexual chomosome (this is a really basic example).
X is presence of gene, O is lack.
Father is XO, mother is XO. The possible combinations are,
XX - Sterile, will not reproduce
XO - Carrier, can reproduce
OX - Carrier, can reproduce
OO - No presence
25% of the offspring are expressing posessors of the trait and will not reproduce
25% have no presence of the trait at all
50% have the gene with no expression and will reproduce normally
3L33T32003
Banned
NAFT
GeekDrew
Diamond Member
(Daring to step in this thread...)
OK, here are my thoughts:
I have always considered myself to be gay. I have also always considered myself to be a Christian. I know many gays that are both. They pray regularly, a very nice, do not want special treatment, etc. Nobody knows that they are gay unless they tell you.
However, I have recently been questioning myself about both aforementioned facts. I was born into a family that was great, until they found out that I thought I was gay. Things went downhill. At long last, I was removed from the family. I now live with an awesome family, and I love them, and they say that they love me. They know about the gay issue, and they don't approve of it, but they tolerate it. They are very religious people, and they attend a Baptist church every day. Instead of going with them, they allow me to go to church once a week with their sons, who go to a non-denomonational church in the area. When I first started going there, I really liked the church. Things have changed.
I no longer have any relationship with God, nor am I really striving for one any more. I have managed to stay away from the church for two weeks (only by claiming that I'm sick and staying in the bathroom most of the morning), and I really don't care if I ever go back. I've also been questioning the declaration that I'm gay. I talked with one of my two best friends, very in-depth. For the last month or two, I've not been attracted to solely males. I've wanted to be sexually attracted to females for ages, and it's finally (starting) to happen. However, if I were to think about it... if I were to imagine the person that I want to spend the rest of my life with, I still picture a man. I don't know why... just the companionship, the understanding, etc. Hopefully that will change in the near future too.
There has recently been a tension in the air at home. I've been afraid that I'm going to mess something up. I can't tolerate going to church much longer, and that's not a good thing at all. I need to find an apartment as soon as possible, because I want to move out before I make things bad here at home. I'm not the same person that I was when I moved in last August. I've been given freedom, and I've enjoyed it (though I have NOT done anything illegal, etc, I restricted my own freedom), and I've been able to explore my personality. I don't want to bother with church right now. I can't stand a lot of the bigotry and such that is happening. Maybe that will change in the future; I don't know. I need to be able to be whoever I am without being afraid to express that. I want to talk to one of my friends asap, because he also wants an apartment... he knows about everything I'm going through, and he is an awesome guy for loving me without regard for my sexual preferences, religious, etc. I'm hoping that we can share an apartment or something together. He brought it up once before, but I tabled the issue then. Wonder if it still stands... but I digress; back to topic.
I can't speak for the gay population, but I have always said that you are born straight or gay. Right now I haven't got a clue about whether I was right or wrong. Maybe it's a combination of both, some being born that way, some just inadvertently becoming that way because of environment, etc. I don't know. You'll be able to fight about it for ages, because no conclusion will ever be reached. The topic will either die or be locked by moderation...
Andrew
OK, here are my thoughts:
I have always considered myself to be gay. I have also always considered myself to be a Christian. I know many gays that are both. They pray regularly, a very nice, do not want special treatment, etc. Nobody knows that they are gay unless they tell you.
However, I have recently been questioning myself about both aforementioned facts. I was born into a family that was great, until they found out that I thought I was gay. Things went downhill. At long last, I was removed from the family. I now live with an awesome family, and I love them, and they say that they love me. They know about the gay issue, and they don't approve of it, but they tolerate it. They are very religious people, and they attend a Baptist church every day. Instead of going with them, they allow me to go to church once a week with their sons, who go to a non-denomonational church in the area. When I first started going there, I really liked the church. Things have changed.
I no longer have any relationship with God, nor am I really striving for one any more. I have managed to stay away from the church for two weeks (only by claiming that I'm sick and staying in the bathroom most of the morning), and I really don't care if I ever go back. I've also been questioning the declaration that I'm gay. I talked with one of my two best friends, very in-depth. For the last month or two, I've not been attracted to solely males. I've wanted to be sexually attracted to females for ages, and it's finally (starting) to happen. However, if I were to think about it... if I were to imagine the person that I want to spend the rest of my life with, I still picture a man. I don't know why... just the companionship, the understanding, etc. Hopefully that will change in the near future too.
There has recently been a tension in the air at home. I've been afraid that I'm going to mess something up. I can't tolerate going to church much longer, and that's not a good thing at all. I need to find an apartment as soon as possible, because I want to move out before I make things bad here at home. I'm not the same person that I was when I moved in last August. I've been given freedom, and I've enjoyed it (though I have NOT done anything illegal, etc, I restricted my own freedom), and I've been able to explore my personality. I don't want to bother with church right now. I can't stand a lot of the bigotry and such that is happening. Maybe that will change in the future; I don't know. I need to be able to be whoever I am without being afraid to express that. I want to talk to one of my friends asap, because he also wants an apartment... he knows about everything I'm going through, and he is an awesome guy for loving me without regard for my sexual preferences, religious, etc. I'm hoping that we can share an apartment or something together. He brought it up once before, but I tabled the issue then. Wonder if it still stands... but I digress; back to topic.
I can't speak for the gay population, but I have always said that you are born straight or gay. Right now I haven't got a clue about whether I was right or wrong. Maybe it's a combination of both, some being born that way, some just inadvertently becoming that way because of environment, etc. I don't know. You'll be able to fight about it for ages, because no conclusion will ever be reached. The topic will either die or be locked by moderation...
Andrew
FelixDeCat
Lifer
Believe it or not Flavio there are actually athiest homosexuals that are hostile towards straight Christians and use their non-belief in God as a basis for hate against said people.
Kadarin
Lifer
Relationships with God are overrated. My suggestion would be for you to remove yourself from your intolerant living situation as soon as you can and move on with life in an environment where you can find yourself. Don't waste time trying to define yourself as homosexual or heterosexual, but just experience life as best you can. Eventually you will find yourself in a wonderful relationship with a partner, male or female, who can love you physically and emotionally and to whom you can reciprocate in full measure.
And whatever happens, it will not be wrong so long as life brings you happiness.
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