Homeowner executes two burglars

[peonyu]

Manslaughter [5 years or so in jail] would be suitable if you ask me...Those kids knew the risks when breaking into someone's home. You dont know if the owner is armed or not, and if he is he might just be more than happy to shoot your nuts off since you gave him the excuse to do it.

Lunatic's unfortunately do not have their home's marked so burglars dont know to NOT try and rob them.

 

[Jaskalas]

What ever happened to identifying the threat before pulling the trigger?

While that might be a great point, is it required by law?

It may be difficult to determine if a person did that. Unless we're to measure the type of home invader based on other circumstantial evidence. Do we really know how the confrontation went down the moment before he pulled the trigger? Did they see him, did they have time to react?

I don't know if you can criminalize the first shots fired at either of them, but your question does raise it as an issue. I'd rather stick to condemning the execution once they were on the floor. It's easier to determine how awful that was - especially based on his own statement.

 

[sigurros81]

Yeah...something is strange there...the guy needs to spend the rest of his life in prison. I hope they inspect the bodies for signs of glass, glass cuts, or abrasions...

I'd inspect the rest of his house as well for...and I'm not going too far out here...but for incriminating shit like horse porn.

 

[Theb]

I wonder if he was a dealer and things went south, then spent the day after murdering the two of them cleaning up evidence and molesting the corpses. He seems the type.

I'm convinced he had a grow house or had something along those lines going on. They may have actually been burglars though.

He claims he was robbed 8 times, but the Sheriff says he only reported one of them. I think he spent the day between the shooting and calling the police moving something to another location. Execution makes sense if he doesn't want witnesses. There was a 0% chance of them finding prescription drugs to steal in his basement.

 

[peonyu]

What ever happened to identifying the threat before pulling the trigger? He had the home advantage and had the opportunity to put himself in a defensive posture and identify them as they went down before just shooting. They could have been family member for example. The moment they stepped down and he got a look at them it would have been a no brainer situation.

I would have scolded them and told them to get the fuck outta there. What he did was was sick.

Seriously, come on now.

Oh boy he shot TWO white girls, now it makes sense why this issue is so huge...If it were two black guys he would be sitting at home now and having "good job!" tweeted to him by the authorities.

 

[sigurros81]

Oh boy he shot TWO white girls, now it makes sense why this issue is so huge...If it were two black guys he would be sitting at home now and having "good job!" tweeted to him by the authorities.

Shut the fuck up and actually read the article before posting moronic comments such as this. That's my recommendation, but I'm sure you're too cool to listen to such sound advice.

 

[Jaskalas]

I'm convinced he had a grow house or had something along those lines going on. They may have actually been burglars though.

He claims he was robbed 8 times, but the Sheriff says he only reported one of them. I think he spent the day between the shooting and calling the police moving something to another location. Execution makes sense if he doesn't want witnesses. There was a 0% chance of them finding prescription drugs to steal in his basement.

Oh !@#$. Makes perfect sense... but would love for them to find evidence of that.

 

[peonyu]

Shut the fuck up and actually read the article before posting moronic comments such as this. That's my recommendation, but I'm sure you're too cool to listen to such sound advice.

Zimmerman is still a free man.

 

[Ausm]

Or the left because there's more left to spend?



Yeah, he goes down for murder.

You mean to tell me that the Rethuglicants are incapable of spending money like water?

 

[sigurros81]

Zimmerman is still a free man.

You have the analytical skill of a down-syndromed child. Two completely different stories with two completely contrasting scenarios, yet you manage, with all your wisdom, to compare the two. Astounding.

Yeah, OJ is also free.

 

[peonyu]

You have the analytical skill of a down-syndromed child. Two completely different stories with two completely contrasting scenarios, yet you manage, with all your wisdom, to compare the two. Astounding.

Yeah, OJ is also free.

 

[PricklyPete]

Seems excessive to me from what I can glean from the article.

 

[chucky2]

So at most you think the most someone should get for Murder 2 is 2.5 years per person, then have their felony record wiped?

I think in this circumstance, given they decided to put their lives in another persons hand by breaking into someones residence, and given he's in the heat of the moment, he should get no more than 5 years? Why serve time at all? Because executing them wasn't absolutely necessary.

You did read the part where he waited for one of them, shot them, then placed a pistol under their chin to get a clean shot to finish the job right? Then didn't call the police for a day.

Other than not calling the police right away (maybe he is really that nice in regards to not bugging them), and executing them, I'm fine with him waiting for them. The second they decided to become scum, they open themselves up to being treated like scum. Sometimes you need to wait scum out to see where it needs attention the most...

Chuck

 

[highland145]

You mean to tell me that the Rethuglicants are incapable of spending money like water?

Just posting the alternate view, balancing the thread with a little more partisan hackery.

 

[ichy]

Though this may have started as a case of self defense, it ended in two murders and the man should either given the death penalty/executed (if allowed by state law) or spend the rest of his life in prison with no chance for parole.

Death penalty? Life w/o parole? At the absolute worst this was second degree murder, not first degree. There was no premeditation, the criminals created this situation.

 

[ichy]

As a gun owner, people like you and that asshole who killed two kids for no reason makes every gun owner look bad.

They were breaking into his house. That's an excellent reason to kill them.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Dude is messed up. That being said, I could see being angry enough if he had had his things stolen not even a month ago, that he was filled with hatred over the idea of it happening again. Dude definitely has some mental issues though.

That all being said, I can't convince myself to care for the burglars a bit. There is one sure way to know that they would not have been killed by him. Do not be an intentional drain on society and go taking things that someone else has put their life into getting. The dude needs mental evaluations, but the girl's lives were of no worth. Sorry to some of you that for some reason feel that is so messed up to say. But if that is the case instead of responding with insults, try and give a valid reason as to how someone matters when they take someone else's earned things. All they bring is sadness, and anger. So if you can find any convincing reason as to why their lives matter at all, I'd be interested to hear it.

 

[chucky2]

WTF dude, you'll get plenty of answers. That's a huge % of the fanatical Dem base you're insinuating isn't worth anything. Prepare for a deluge...

 

[Ausm]

Just posting the alternate view, balancing the thread with a little more partisan hackery.

My wasn't hackery, I am pretty sure this would be embraced by Republicans. I am trying to think like one so I can "fit in".

 

[halik]

The poll would be pointless if he called the police after the initial shooting.



He definitely would've been better off talking to a lawyer before he made a statement. From what I've read that's not a bad idea even in very obvious cases of self defense, but I think the evidence they were shot in two different locations and waiting a day to call the police would've started the detectives asking a lot of questions.

Eh I think think you'd have tough time explaining short range handgun wound under the girls chin.

 

[CA19100]

The girl was very cute...

So was Susan Smith. Doesn't mean a thing.

 

[highland145]

My wasn't hackery, I am pretty sure this would be embraced by Republicans. I am trying to think like one so I can "fit in".

Murder to save $$....I don't think so.

Hell, I haven't killed anyone yet and I've got 13 firearms. Must need better bait.:hmm:

Ausm, would you like to come over for dinner? It's a hoodie/skittles party. Welcome to my parlor.

 

[highland145]

So was Susan Smith. Doesn't mean a thing.

D: uh, no.

 

[SaurusX]

So was Susan Smith. Doesn't mean a thing.

False. On both points.

 

[ichy]

Oh hey, looks like those two low lifes had burglarized at least one other home in order to feed their addiction.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...16c2e4-3960-11e2-9258-ac7c78d5c680_story.html

Worthless human garbage.