Homelessness...

[quackerww]

I am doing a soc project and was wondering what people thought.

Do you think homelessness..
Is the fault of society?
Or the fault of the homeless person?

 

[Quasmo]

those bastards

 

[gk1998]

depends. just two choices seems a bit narrow.

 

[acemcmac]

Originally posted by: gk1998
depends. just two choices seems a bit narrow.

exactly.

I support soup kitchens and when I used to bike to work, I'd bring the hobo's coffee and dounughts sometimes

 

[quackerww]

Trying to keep it, narrow... There are a billion exceptions.... So kind of has to be narrow.
Think of it this way generally speaking who is at fault.

 

[ntdz]

It's the homeless person's fault, no doubt. Come over to Politics and News and you'll find those liberals think it's society's fault! Damn libs

 

[acemcmac]

Originally posted by: quackerww
Trying to keep it, narrow... There are a billion exceptions.... So kind of has to be narrow.
Think of it this way generally speaking who is at fault.

there is no "generally speaking"

try asking "who is in favor of killing babies 'generally speaking?'"

 

[Captante]

Although there is a lot of grey area in this topic, the majority of homless people are responsible for their situation.

 

[acemcmac]

Originally posted by: ntdz
It's the homeless person's fault, no doubt. Come over to Politics and News and you'll find those liberals think it's society's fault! Damn libs

huh? I really doubt that....

 

[envy me]

I beleive the situation itself is the individuals fault, however I don't think a country that can send hundreds of billions of dollars to foreign nations each year should have a homeless problem.

 

[SilentZero]

A good mix, and to those who say themselves are clueless. Sure there are many homeless people who are homeless because they simply don't want to work and rather take drugs/drink instead, or just can't hold a job for these reasons.

However, there are many people that are homeless for a wide variety of reasons that are beyond their control. And some of these reasons are societys fault in general.

One of my best friends was homeless for a short while. We were stationed together in the army for a good amount of time, and even served overseas together. I left the service and he left shortly after, however he couldn't deal with the transition and didn't have any family to lend him a hand during this time. So what did he do? He stayed in a shelter in cali for the most part, trying to find work, while trying to repair the damage war mentally did on him. No one would hire him because his address and phone was at the shelter. He finally landed a job as a janitor for the state, but he got really lucky there. Now he is back in college (at night) and working full time to survive.

So anyone that blames all homeless people for their situation are just ignorant in my opinion. It could happen to any of us at any time.

 

[JS80]

When I was in high school (and naive), I seriously thought homeless people were there because of society. But my friend's brother, who was in film school, did a documentary on the homeless and had interviews with them. Basically the conclusion of the documentary was that all of them were there by choice; most of them confessed that it was an easy way out because they were either too lazy (by their own description) or just didn't feel like trying, and saw that panhandling and mooching off the government gave them a relatively good life considering they produced nothing. That documentary sort of changed my view on everything.

I also learned that they receive free housing from the government or a charity, and some of them even have apartments! Yes, there are PROFESSIONAL panhandlers. They go to high yielding spots such as 3rd Street Promenade in Santa Monica (which is filled with socialist hippies who also are rich) and Westwood near UCLA (which is filled with socialist hippies who will become rich in the future) and receive money from the government every month. One of them on the documentary said he rides the bus everyday to and from his apartment. Sure enough, the very next year, I saw the same guy in Westwood when I was attending UCLA. He was a VERY good panhandler. I almost gave in.

 

[Toonces]

Originally posted by: SilentZero

However, there are many people that are homeless for a wide variety of reasons that are beyond their control. And some of these reasons are societys fault in general.

No one can say it's either one or the other, most definately a mix between poor personal choices and societal pressures for not hiring people "like that"

 

[Conky]

I don't think it would be that bad to be homeless in some places like, for example, Santa Monica. I could totally see being a homeless bum at the beach in LA, beats working and some of them make mad bank. :thumbsup:

 

[SilentZero]

Originally posted by: UNESC0

Originally posted by: SilentZero

However, there are many people that are homeless for a wide variety of reasons that are beyond their control. And some of these reasons are societys fault in general.

No one can say it's either one or the other, most definately a mix between poor personal choices and societal pressures for not hiring people "like that"

There are situations that "poor personal choices" aren't a factor though.

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: SilentZero
It could happen to any of us at any time.

Bullshit, it's not going to happen to me. You know why, because I got the necessary plans in place to prevent such a situation from happening. A little planning goes a long way.

 

[morrisbj]

Originally posted by: quackerww
I am doing a soc project and was wondering what people thought.

Do you think homelessness..
Is the fault of society?
Or the fault of the homeless person?

There are some people who choose to live on the street, some who make bad decisions and land on the street, and some who are victims of society or something else. Overall it says something about our society though that people end up there at all, even of their own doing.

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Originally posted by: ntdz
It's the homeless person's fault, no doubt. Come over to Politics and News and you'll find those liberals think it's society's fault! Damn libs

huh? I really doubt that....

99% of my posts came in P&N, I know the people in there

 

[LtPage1]

there are very few homeless people who aren't addicted to drugs and/or mentally disabled.

 

[wfbberzerker]

impossible to say unless you look at it case by case, and then it's not cut and dry.

 

[ribbon13]

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: SilentZero
It could happen to any of us at any time.

Bullshit, it's not going to happen to me. You know why, because I got the necessary plans in place to prevent such a situation from happening. A little planning goes a long way.

But you don't live in New Orleans do you? Asshat.

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: ribbon13

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: SilentZero
It could happen to any of us at any time.

Bullshit, it's not going to happen to me. You know why, because I got the necessary plans in place to prevent such a situation from happening. A little planning goes a long way.

But you don't live in New Orleans do you? Asshat.

It would have only took maybe 2 or 3 thousand dollars to move somewhere and start an entirely new life. If you don't have 2 thousand bucks saved up for emergency, it's your own fault. Or if you didn't have renters or home insurance.

 

[ribbon13]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby
It would have only took maybe 2 or 3 thousand dollars to move somewhere and start an entirely new life. If you don't have 2 thousand bucks saved up for emergency, it's your own fault. Or if you didn't have renters or home insurance.

Yeah because no one gets kicked out at 18, riding a bike or walks to work a minimum wage job, lives off of ramen, and is too poor to afford insurance or save up much cash.

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: ribbon13
Yeah because no one gets kicked out at 18, riding a bike or walks to work a minimum wage job, lives off of ramen, and is too poor to afford insurance or save up much cash.

Do well in school + scholarships + college + living in dorms = successful life.

Edit: And hardly no one makes minimum wage except maybe immigrant hotel housekeepers and farm laborers.

 

[ribbon13]

First day you move into your new place after spending your $3000 savings, your apartment complex burns to the ground. Hadn't had time to get new insurance. And everything you owned was in there. Pwned?

Not everyone can do well in school. Some people are born stupid, but they still have a right to life, and sh!t happens. Don't forget racism. That's a big issue with scholarships. My friend who happens to be half african half mexican maintained 3.8+ her whole highschool career but works for $7.35 washing dishes paying her way through college.