"Homebrew" Psilocybin Created By Scientists Using "Widely Available" Materials

[imported_tajmahal]

It may not be your concern or interest but that's just you ignoring stuff you don't like.

How perspicacious of you...... in this particular instance.

 

[Muse]

Are shrooms addictive?

I would say no.

 

[Muse]

All that said, I'm not a fan of finding new cheap easy fast ways of getting high. We have enough right now.

"Enough right now?" What's a "cheap easy fast way of getting high" in the way that psilocybin does it? I know of none.

 

[MrSquished]

Imagine being so myopic you can't see further than your country because they are meaningless to you. These conservatives can't see past the bridge of their white noses.

Except when it comes to fascist election conspiracy theories, then all of a sudden they can see them far and wide.

 

[allisolm]

I was talking the United States, other countries are not my concern or interest.

And there's the sound of the goal posts moving.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

And there's the sound of the goal posts moving.

Then put the back where they belong and don't do it again.

 

[ch33zw1z]

I absolutely disagree. The addictive nature of opiates plus the euphoria they generate combined with the advertising might of Coca Cola or Philip Morris and them being totally legalised?
No way would usage stay flat.

Drug advertisement can be heavily regulated, just like tobacco. We should do the same to junk food because of it's addictive nature. One of my current beefs with Rec MJ is just that, there's advertisements all over the place. It really doesn't need to be that way.

Tobacco is a great example of limiting advertisement and public education really reducing usage.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Drug advertisement can be heavily regulated, just like tobacco. We should do the same to junk food because of it's addictive nature. One of my current beefs with Rec MJ is just that, there's advertisements all over the place. It really doesn't need to be that way.

Tobacco is a great example of limiting advertisement and public education really reducing usage.

Best of luck, drug advertisements are out of fucking control in America. There should be no place for patients to suggest medication to doctors. It fosters a relationship that encourages faulty self diagnosis and alternative medicine.

 

[WelshBloke]

Drug advertisement can be heavily regulated, just like tobacco. We should do the same to junk food because of it's addictive nature. One of my current beefs with Rec MJ is just that, there's advertisements all over the place. It really doesn't need to be that way.

Tobacco is a great example of limiting advertisement and public education really reducing usage.

Make heroin legal. Properly legal. And you are going to end up with soft drinks with it in with massive corporations pushing it.
Monster energy drinks with smack in anyone?

 

[WelshBloke]

How perspicacious of you...... in this particular instance.

Well sticking to the instance at hand is how things are supposed to be discussed, unless you are a disengenuous knob.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Best of luck, drug advertisements are out of fucking control in America. There should be no place for patients to suggest medication to doctors. It fosters a relationship that encourages faulty self diagnosis and alternative medicine.

No doubt, I agree. But those are prescriptions, which I've seen for opiates as well in the last few years.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Make heroin legal. Properly legal. And you are going to end up with soft drinks with it in with massive corporations pushing it.
Monster energy drinks with smack in anyone?

Alcohol, tobacco, and MJ are not like that at all in my state.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Well sticking to the instance at hand is how things are supposed to be discussed, unless you are a disengenuous knob.

I don't live in or visit Europe. My knowledge of European laws, prohibitions and ethics is as limited as your knowledge of the United States.

 

[ch33zw1z]

I don't live in or visit Europe. My knowledge of European laws, prohibitions and ethics is as limited as your knowledge of the United States.

I mean, you can't really say that without knowing what his knowledge is, lol.

 

[killster1]

Got this intriguing post in my inbox today.

"Homebrew" Psilocybin Created By Scientists Using "Widely Available" Materials

"Homebrew" Psilocybin Created By Scientists Using "Widely Available" Materials

www.iflscience.com

widely available materials = E.coli and penicillin .. sounds way safer then just using some poo and a magazine spore sample for 20$ (we have all seen the adds in books since the 80's)

 

[Pohemi]

Best of luck, drug advertisements are out of fucking control in America.

Pharmaceuticals, I would completely agree.

I might be mistaken, but I thought he was referring to the changes in advertising that have happened over the past decades for alcohol and tobacco. Remember how those ads use to be, and how many more places you could find them?

Limits and more restrictive regulations (on marketing of the products) were definitely put into place over time on those goods.

 

[ch33zw1z]

I think what's greatly overlooked is the source of the current opiate problem in the U.S., which can be tricky to lay at any one company, even pharma corps capitalizing on a ripe market:

Opioid Crisis: No Easy Fix to Its Social and Economic Determinants - PMC

The accepted wisdom about the US overdose crisis singles out prescribing as the causative vector. Although drug supply is a key factor, we posit that the crisis is fundamentally fueled by economic and social upheaval, its etiology closely linked to ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[imported_tajmahal]

I mean, you can't really say that without knowing what his knowledge is, lol.

I made a judgement over my observations of what i've read of his in the past few years.

 

[Greenman]

Your entire point (goalpost) gets moved as soon as it is pointed out to be misinformed. Funny, that.

That's incorrect. I don't believe we need more mind altering drugs, or a simplified method of obtaining them.

You can be as obtuse as you like, that doesn't change what I've said.

 

[MrSquished]

Mind altering drugs such as psychedelics should be mandated to anybody who says they would vote for Trump again. Our only hope is their tiny regressive fucked up minds open up a bit with the help of the drug and they start to question their decision making.

 

[Pohemi]

You can be as obtuse as you like, that doesn't change what I've said.

I don't have to change what you've said, because you can't even keep it straight yourself. You can't even keep your bleating organized.

You say "the entire point" is such and such until I explained why your opinion wasn't a reasonable one, and you immediately reply with a claim that "the entire point" is now something entirely different than what you stated in your previous post.

It's clear that you have no valid point, you just like to see yourself make empty and idiotic claims.

 

[WelshBloke]

I don't live in or visit Europe. My knowledge of European laws, prohibitions and ethics is as limited as your knowledge of the United States.

And none of that is relevant to the greater point. It's just you doing your ignore the stuff that doesn't support your point and hope that no one notices again. That's not a way to make public policy. The real world doesn't care if you are butt hurt an ignoring stuff because it doesn't agree with you.

 

[Muse]

Make heroin legal. Properly legal. And you are going to end up with soft drinks with it in with massive corporations pushing it.
Monster energy drinks with smack in anyone?

Well, I think it's obvious that heroin isn't going to be legalized in any way without some regulation in tandem. Dumping it in soft drinks I figure is only in some dystopian novel or movie.

Edit: I had a vague notion that Coca Cola used to have cocaine in it but never looked it up until just now. Yes it did:

Coca-Cola's Scandalous Past

Did you hear the one about cocaine being found in the recipe for Coca-Cola? Well, it’s true. Coca-Cola was invented in 1885 by John Pemberton, a pharmacist from Atlanta, Georgia, who concocted the original formula in his backyard. Pemberton’s recipe contained cocaine—in the form of an extract of...

archives.drugabuse.gov

 

[WelshBloke]

Well, I think it's obvious that heroin isn't going to be legalized in any way without some regulation in tandem. Dumping it in soft drinks I figure is only in some dystopian novel or movie.

Edit: I had a vague notion that Coca Cola used to have cocaine in it but never looked it up until just now. Yes it did:

Coca-Cola's Scandalous Past

Did you hear the one about cocaine being found in the recipe for Coca-Cola? Well, it’s true. Coca-Cola was invented in 1885 by John Pemberton, a pharmacist from Atlanta, Georgia, who concocted the original formula in his backyard. Pemberton’s recipe contained cocaine—in the form of an extract of...

archives.drugabuse.gov

That's the point. You make something legal, well then it's legal. No reason not to put it in drinks.

Now if you are talking about having a strong state control over something that's different.

 

[Muse]

That's the point. You make something legal, well then it's legal. No reason not to put it in drinks.

Now if you are talking about having a strong state control over something that's different.

Yes, my point was that heroin wouldn't be legalized without massive controls imposed. It is, in a way, with methadone, and I think there may be programs where addicts are allowed some heroin under supervision in order to control their trajectory and reduce the crime associated with it, but I don't follow those things.