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Originally posted by: AreaCode707
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
90% of the home-schooled people I've met have been social misfits. That's just my experience though, I'm sure it's fine for a lot of people.

KT

Out of curiousity, was most of that experience with homeschoolers as a child or adult? Again, I do think that homeschoolers can often be misfits with their peers as children but in my experience they have good social interactions with and as adults.

Well adult I guess, but we are talking between 19 and 25, so adult may be a bit of a stretch.

KT
 

TridenT

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Originally posted by: AreaCode707
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555

Home schooling sucks for Atheist/Agnostic children who realize that all churches are BS. I never wanted to be home schooled; I heard what they did... In my experience, most home schooled people I've met never end up being smart as you are. There are exceptions but the majority are not. Most of these "smart" home schooled kids come from families who are probably well-off financially and have had a good college education.

You may be one of the very few exceptions, but generally I don't think home schooled kids are better off.

I've seen the bad along with the good; the family with 9 kids whose mom was too lazy to get them ready for school so she "homeschooled" them to avoid doing any work. The oldest daughter ran away at 17. However, I know far more kids in public schools that were dealing with abuse/neglect than homeschoolers, all without teachers knowing or intervening, than I ever saw in homeschool.

Beyond that, I saw a TON of public school kids not putting effort into their work, skirting by on C's and D's, while I rarely saw any homeschoolers performing poorly academically - and not just because their parents gave them A's for everything. One of the advantages of homeschooling is that the day is as short - or as long - as you make it. You do your work and get it all right the first time, you just spent three hours in school and you have the rest of the day free. Don't do it or do it poorly and you redo it til you're done - 10 hours, too darn bad. The incentive of free time, even if it's structured free time, really does push you to take accountability for your work.

I do think atheist/agnostic kids in homeschooling probably have to put up with more religious stuff than they would in public school, but it's approximately the same as what they'd get in private school. Private schooled atheist/agnostic kids deal with it and get the education their parents are paying for. Heck, religious kids in public school often get ridiculed for their beliefs and they put up with it and get the education that's offered.

As far as your view that homeschooled kids don't come off as smart as public/private schooled kids, statistics don't agree. In 2006, the nationwide grand mean in reading for homeschoolers was at the 79th percentile. For language and math, homeschoolers were at the 73rd percentile. Look for statistics on homeschool academic success and you'll find plenty. Look for homeschool academic failure and you'll find little.

A quick Google search on homeschool college admissions will show that admissions officers generally have nothing but good to say about homeschoolers, and more colleges are coming up with ways to take homeschooling educational experience into account during the admissions process (since homeschoolers don't have the same type of AP classes/GPA that you can easily measure against high school students).

Good link - I think this is an impartial source, after a quick glance around the site. I apologize if not; I was trying to avoid posting statistics from sources that were obviously biased, like the HSLDA.
Please correct me if this is a biased source

Passing tests isn't hard when you know what to study for... Taking the SAT for math is nothing. It's seriously beyond easy.
 

AreaCode7O7

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Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: AreaCode707
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
90% of the home-schooled people I've met have been social misfits. That's just my experience though, I'm sure it's fine for a lot of people.

KT

Out of curiousity, was most of that experience with homeschoolers as a child or adult? Again, I do think that homeschoolers can often be misfits with their peers as children but in my experience they have good social interactions with and as adults.

Well adult I guess, but we are talking between 19 and 25, so adult may be a bit of a stretch.

KT

Eh, that's about the age when I'd expect it to be normalizing out, but it also depends on the culture of the social crowd you're running with. If you're talking about Friday evenings out at the bar, you're still likely to see misfits. If you're talking a professional work environment, I'd expect more social normalcy.
 

TridenT

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Originally posted by: AreaCode707
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: AreaCode707
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
90% of the home-schooled people I've met have been social misfits. That's just my experience though, I'm sure it's fine for a lot of people.

KT

Out of curiousity, was most of that experience with homeschoolers as a child or adult? Again, I do think that homeschoolers can often be misfits with their peers as children but in my experience they have good social interactions with and as adults.

Well adult I guess, but we are talking between 19 and 25, so adult may be a bit of a stretch.

KT

Eh, that's about the age when I'd expect it to be normalizing out, but it also depends on the culture of the social crowd you're running with. If you're talking about Friday evenings out at the bar, you're still likely to see misfits. If you're talking a professional work environment, I'd expect more social normalcy.

lol @ professional work environment... that basically means you don't talk unless you are spoken to. Talk when necessary, and even then only about work and "did you run into this problem?", if that...
 

AreaCode7O7

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Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: AreaCode707
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555

Home schooling sucks for Atheist/Agnostic children who realize that all churches are BS. I never wanted to be home schooled; I heard what they did... In my experience, most home schooled people I've met never end up being smart as you are. There are exceptions but the majority are not. Most of these "smart" home schooled kids come from families who are probably well-off financially and have had a good college education.

You may be one of the very few exceptions, but generally I don't think home schooled kids are better off.

I've seen the bad along with the good; the family with 9 kids whose mom was too lazy to get them ready for school so she "homeschooled" them to avoid doing any work. The oldest daughter ran away at 17. However, I know far more kids in public schools that were dealing with abuse/neglect than homeschoolers, all without teachers knowing or intervening, than I ever saw in homeschool.

Beyond that, I saw a TON of public school kids not putting effort into their work, skirting by on C's and D's, while I rarely saw any homeschoolers performing poorly academically - and not just because their parents gave them A's for everything. One of the advantages of homeschooling is that the day is as short - or as long - as you make it. You do your work and get it all right the first time, you just spent three hours in school and you have the rest of the day free. Don't do it or do it poorly and you redo it til you're done - 10 hours, too darn bad. The incentive of free time, even if it's structured free time, really does push you to take accountability for your work.

I do think atheist/agnostic kids in homeschooling probably have to put up with more religious stuff than they would in public school, but it's approximately the same as what they'd get in private school. Private schooled atheist/agnostic kids deal with it and get the education their parents are paying for. Heck, religious kids in public school often get ridiculed for their beliefs and they put up with it and get the education that's offered.

As far as your view that homeschooled kids don't come off as smart as public/private schooled kids, statistics don't agree. In 2006, the nationwide grand mean in reading for homeschoolers was at the 79th percentile. For language and math, homeschoolers were at the 73rd percentile. Look for statistics on homeschool academic success and you'll find plenty. Look for homeschool academic failure and you'll find little.

A quick Google search on homeschool college admissions will show that admissions officers generally have nothing but good to say about homeschoolers, and more colleges are coming up with ways to take homeschooling educational experience into account during the admissions process (since homeschoolers don't have the same type of AP classes/GPA that you can easily measure against high school students).

Good link - I think this is an impartial source, after a quick glance around the site. I apologize if not; I was trying to avoid posting statistics from sources that were obviously biased, like the HSLDA.
Please correct me if this is a biased source

Passing tests isn't hard when you know what to study for... Taking the SAT for math is nothing. It's seriously beyond easy.

True enough. :)

However, the percentile rankings come from actual comparisons between test takers, which means that their are significant numbers of kids that are getting the 50th percentile and below. If nothing else, the statistic there would indicate that homeschooled students have better targeted studying to the test than schooled kids; they are coming out higher however you cut it.

The better debate on this is whether testing is indicative of anything else worthwhile or if it's testing for testing's sake. Homeschoolers coming out higher on the tests, on average, is a statistical fact.
 

Modelworks

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Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
waiting for my engineering class... blah.

Anyway, I think everything is taught in public schools... At least in mine. The information was there, but you had to ask for it.

What kind of things could you not be taught? Please give me examples, I don't understand... What the fuck could your parents teach you? Mine never really taught me anything I couldn't learn in school!


Life skills.
There is so much that cannot be taught with a book.
So many things that our parents know how to do or have experience with that they can hand down to us, but parents work too much now thinking that is the best thing for the family.
Expecting the schools to teach everything else.

Schools are great for the basics, its when we started trying to make them take on the roll of parent that they started to fail.
 

TridenT

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Originally posted by: AreaCode707
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: AreaCode707
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555

Home schooling sucks for Atheist/Agnostic children who realize that all churches are BS. I never wanted to be home schooled; I heard what they did... In my experience, most home schooled people I've met never end up being smart as you are. There are exceptions but the majority are not. Most of these "smart" home schooled kids come from families who are probably well-off financially and have had a good college education.

You may be one of the very few exceptions, but generally I don't think home schooled kids are better off.

I've seen the bad along with the good; the family with 9 kids whose mom was too lazy to get them ready for school so she "homeschooled" them to avoid doing any work. The oldest daughter ran away at 17. However, I know far more kids in public schools that were dealing with abuse/neglect than homeschoolers, all without teachers knowing or intervening, than I ever saw in homeschool.

Beyond that, I saw a TON of public school kids not putting effort into their work, skirting by on C's and D's, while I rarely saw any homeschoolers performing poorly academically - and not just because their parents gave them A's for everything. One of the advantages of homeschooling is that the day is as short - or as long - as you make it. You do your work and get it all right the first time, you just spent three hours in school and you have the rest of the day free. Don't do it or do it poorly and you redo it til you're done - 10 hours, too darn bad. The incentive of free time, even if it's structured free time, really does push you to take accountability for your work.

I do think atheist/agnostic kids in homeschooling probably have to put up with more religious stuff than they would in public school, but it's approximately the same as what they'd get in private school. Private schooled atheist/agnostic kids deal with it and get the education their parents are paying for. Heck, religious kids in public school often get ridiculed for their beliefs and they put up with it and get the education that's offered.

As far as your view that homeschooled kids don't come off as smart as public/private schooled kids, statistics don't agree. In 2006, the nationwide grand mean in reading for homeschoolers was at the 79th percentile. For language and math, homeschoolers were at the 73rd percentile. Look for statistics on homeschool academic success and you'll find plenty. Look for homeschool academic failure and you'll find little.

A quick Google search on homeschool college admissions will show that admissions officers generally have nothing but good to say about homeschoolers, and more colleges are coming up with ways to take homeschooling educational experience into account during the admissions process (since homeschoolers don't have the same type of AP classes/GPA that you can easily measure against high school students).

Good link - I think this is an impartial source, after a quick glance around the site. I apologize if not; I was trying to avoid posting statistics from sources that were obviously biased, like the HSLDA.
Please correct me if this is a biased source

Passing tests isn't hard when you know what to study for... Taking the SAT for math is nothing. It's seriously beyond easy.

True enough. :)

However, the percentile rankings come from actual comparisons between test takers, which means that their are significant numbers of kids that are getting the 50th percentile and below. If nothing else, the statistic there would indicate that homeschooled students have better targeted studying to the test than schooled kids; they are coming out higher however you cut it.

The better debate on this is whether testing is indicative of anything else worthwhile or if it's testing for testing's sake. Homeschoolers coming out higher on the tests, on average, is a statistical fact.

How many of those home schooled kids study vs public schoolers? I didn't study, and that's why I had no freaking clue what was on the test... I went in with the expectation to be surprised, and I was... very much so. I didn't know what to do on some of the Writing and Reading but the math I just slaughtered.(in a good way)

If you are home schooled, I think the study percentage for the SAT would be greater than 95%. For public, it may be as low as 50%. Basically no one studied at my school except the people who really wanted a good score...
 

AreaCode7O7

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Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: AreaCode707
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: AreaCode707
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
90% of the home-schooled people I've met have been social misfits. That's just my experience though, I'm sure it's fine for a lot of people.

KT

Out of curiousity, was most of that experience with homeschoolers as a child or adult? Again, I do think that homeschoolers can often be misfits with their peers as children but in my experience they have good social interactions with and as adults.

Well adult I guess, but we are talking between 19 and 25, so adult may be a bit of a stretch.

KT

Eh, that's about the age when I'd expect it to be normalizing out, but it also depends on the culture of the social crowd you're running with. If you're talking about Friday evenings out at the bar, you're still likely to see misfits. If you're talking a professional work environment, I'd expect more social normalcy.

lol @ professional work environment... that basically means you don't talk unless you are spoken to. Talk when necessary, and even then only about work and "did you run into this problem?", if that...

A professional work environment should involve a certain level of relational bonding to ensure effective communication and smooth the path to getting things done. Or didn't they mention that in public school? ;)

So you are talking about these homeschoolers not fitting into the "social scene" of partying, etc? Is that where you're seeing the most social mal-adaptation?
 

AreaCode7O7

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Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
How many of those home schooled kids study vs public schoolers? I didn't study, and that's why I had no freaking clue what was on the test... I went in with the expectation to be surprised, and I was... very much so. I didn't know what to do on some of the Writing and Reading but the math I just slaughtered.(in a good way)

If you are home schooled, I think the study percentage for the SAT would be greater than 95%. For public, it may be as low as 50%. Basically no one studied at my school except the people who really wanted a good score...

Study habits are pretty individual but I'd bet homeschoolers are studying more than public schoolers simply because they have more individualized oversight. Is your point that homeschoolers are doing better on the test than public schoolers because the public schoolers aren't studying but would do just as well if they were? I'd agree; that's probably true.
 

TridenT

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Originally posted by: AreaCode707
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: AreaCode707
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: AreaCode707
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
90% of the home-schooled people I've met have been social misfits. That's just my experience though, I'm sure it's fine for a lot of people.

KT

Out of curiousity, was most of that experience with homeschoolers as a child or adult? Again, I do think that homeschoolers can often be misfits with their peers as children but in my experience they have good social interactions with and as adults.

Well adult I guess, but we are talking between 19 and 25, so adult may be a bit of a stretch.

KT

Eh, that's about the age when I'd expect it to be normalizing out, but it also depends on the culture of the social crowd you're running with. If you're talking about Friday evenings out at the bar, you're still likely to see misfits. If you're talking a professional work environment, I'd expect more social normalcy.

lol @ professional work environment... that basically means you don't talk unless you are spoken to. Talk when necessary, and even then only about work and "did you run into this problem?", if that...

A professional work environment should involve a certain level of relational bonding to ensure effective communication and smooth the path to getting things done. Or didn't they mention that in public school? ;)

So you are talking about these homeschoolers not fitting into the "social scene" of partying, etc? Is that where you're seeing the most social mal-adaptation?

I don't have any comments about their social interaction with others. I am just lolin' at that. I don't party and I went to public schools, but that is because I have a different thought process than others do on the matter.

I don't see how they could make friends outside of church/home-school groups in a SMALL TOWN/County.
 

AreaCode7O7

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Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555


I don't have any comments about their social interaction with others. I am just lolin' at that. I don't party and I went to public schools, but that is because I have a different thought process than others do on the matter.

I don't see how they could make friends outside of church/home-school groups in a SMALL TOWN/County.

I'm from a pretty small town (15k, though the surrounding areas added up to make it about 30k total) but there was plenty to get involved with anyway. Community theater, volunteer work, sports, hobbies... one of mine was astronomy, so we did a lot of class and field work, both with people my age and with younger and older as well.

One thing I personally got out of the homeschooling experience is that I don't have to restrict my pool of friends to people in my age group, plus or minus a year. I've got friends from 13 to 98, currently. I tend to mostly hang out in the 21-45 range, but that's mostly a matter of convenience/location/mobility.

Again, I think public schooling works pretty well for a majority of public schoolers. I also think that homeschooling works pretty well for a majority of homeschoolers. There are exceptions in both cases, statistics show that homeschoolers succeed academically better but that's a matter of attention rather than anything else.

We can argue anecdotally about social interaction all day long without changing each others' mind. :) Fortunately we both have the choice to do what we want with our kids, when/if we have them.

[edit] By the way, thanks for staying civil throughout the whole conversation. I've met several people that can get quite heated about this topic and it's often not very pleasant. I appreciate the thoughtful approach.
 

Turkish

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Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: Turkish
Private but free nonreligious school.

Private but free?? That exists? You sure you don't mean a charter school or something?

Yes, all students were provided athletic or academic scholorships. Since I am not so smart, I got athletic :p
 

alkemyst

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I am still waiting for anyone to post up modern day famous/successful people that were 100% home schooled by a family member.

 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: AreaCode707
Originally posted by: alkemyst
I am still waiting for anyone to post up modern day famous/successful people that were 100% home schooled by a family member.

How modern? If you go back more than 75 years, you've got too many to reasonably sort through.

Already brought up.

75 years ago is worthless today. How many inventions have come since then?

Fact is for the poor home schooling gets one a better education if their parents were well educated to begin with and decent teachers with recent degrees. What usually happens is the parent tries to regurgitate knowledge 20+ years old to them and even more so out of date.

For the rich, home schooling is more about having a real live teacher follow a kid around during times they are away from a more formal school or a full-time tutor at home and a bunch of extra-curricular items.

For those doing well/rich their schools provide access to labs and equipment that most couldn't get elsewhere.

My elementary school was a pretty good one...when the Apple ][ came out we had 30+ of them ready to go...my middle school had a mix of Apple //e's and PC's by then.

My high school was crap for the most part since our high school was still under construction at the time and we were bused off to 'equalize' a minority school.

We have a lot of home-schoolers down here. My ex wife was one. She graduated high school a few years ahead of the curve but once thrown into a 'secular' school she did terribly really.

Much of the home-schoolers I knew from that period have really not amounted to anything...I know only one that has gone beyond a bachelor's and is a doctor.
 

AreaCode7O7

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: AreaCode707
Originally posted by: alkemyst
I am still waiting for anyone to post up modern day famous/successful people that were 100% home schooled by a family member.

How modern? If you go back more than 75 years, you've got too many to reasonably sort through.

Already brought up.

75 years ago is worthless today. How many inventions have come since then?

Fact is for the poor home schooling gets one a better education if their parents were well educated to begin with and decent teachers with recent degrees. What usually happens is the parent tries to regurgitate knowledge 20+ years old to them and even more so out of date.

For the rich, home schooling is more about having a real live teacher follow a kid around during times they are away from a more formal school or a full-time tutor at home and a bunch of extra-curricular items.

For those doing well/rich their schools provide access to labs and equipment that most couldn't get elsewhere.

My elementary school was a pretty good one...when the Apple ][ came out we had 30+ of them ready to go...my middle school had a mix of Apple //e's and PC's by then.

My high school was crap for the most part since our high school was still under construction at the time and we were bused off to 'equalize' a minority school.

We have a lot of home-schoolers down here. My ex wife was one. She graduated high school a few years ahead of the curve but once thrown into a 'secular' school she did terribly really.

Much of the home-schoolers I knew from that period have really not amounted to anything...I know only one that has gone beyond a bachelor's and is a doctor.

Homeschooling means you pool all the resources available, public and private, to taylor build an education for your children. For 85% of the homeschoolers I know, that's how it worked for them. That's why the statistic show homeschoolers performing so well.

I know better than to engage you in discussion, so that'll be my last word on the matter with you in particular. :) Still happy to discuss with others; my homeschooling intuition tells me that alkemyst will argue any topic from any viewpoint without regard for evidence and eventually into the ground.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: AreaCode707
Homeschooling means you pool all the resources available, public and private, to taylor build an education for your children. For 85% of the homeschoolers I know, that's how it worked for them. That's why the statistic show homeschoolers performing so well.

I know better than to engage you in discussion, so that'll be my last word on the matter with you in particular. :) Still happy to discuss with others; my homeschooling intuition tells me that alkemyst will argue any topic from any viewpoint without regard for evidence and eventually into the ground.

Where are these statistics? The only ones I have seen are those comparing home-schooling to F type schools.

Publically / Privately schooled kids also pool their resources for the best education yet have access to the tool those outside of schools do not.

Just a chemistry lab and anatomy items are out of the reach of most home-schooled.

Good luck finding a parent qualified for advanced math, foreign language, or physics as well.

Like I said, I know a lot of home schoolers, it's popular here in S. Florida esp. with Baptists.

Don't know many who really have done much of anything in real life though....you get things like George Washington or sports players.
 

AreaCode7O7

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: AreaCode707
Homeschooling means you pool all the resources available, public and private, to taylor build an education for your children. For 85% of the homeschoolers I know, that's how it worked for them. That's why the statistic show homeschoolers performing so well.

I know better than to engage you in discussion, so that'll be my last word on the matter with you in particular. :) Still happy to discuss with others; my homeschooling intuition tells me that alkemyst will argue any topic from any viewpoint without regard for evidence and eventually into the ground.

Where are these statistics? The only ones I have seen are those comparing home-schooling to F type schools.

Publically / Privately schooled kids also pool their resources for the best education yet have access to the tool those outside of schools do not.

Just a chemistry lab and anatomy items are out of the reach of most home-schooled.

Good luck finding a parent qualified for advanced math, foreign language, or physics as well.

Like I said, I know a lot of home schoolers, it's popular here in S. Florida esp. with Baptists.

Don't know many who really have done much of anything in real life though....you get things like George Washington or sports players.

Good God, it's like Google breaks every time you try to search for information that upsets your view of life.

Statistics about homeschooling families:
http://nces.ed.gov/pubs2006/2006042.pdf
See table 4 for reasons for homeschooling
See table 7 for homeschooling parents' education level

http://epaa.asu.edu/epaa/v7n8/
See table 3.5 for scholastic achievement statistics.

Both organizations cited are non-religious, non-homeschool affiliated as far as I know. Have a field day. I'm now late for something so I won't be back on til later.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: AreaCode707
Have a field day. I'm now late for something so I won't be back on til later.

what Heroes or something?

Those statistics are sort of dated for someone in the 'know', but anyway only show the grade aspect and not much about the end results.

No one here is debating the richer you are the more opportunities to educate at home there are, but many are done out of special reasons due to location and the like rather than someone.

I don't think you know your own argument.

Are you still being homeschooled or something?
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: AreaCode707
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: AreaCode707
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
90% of the home-schooled people I've met have been social misfits. That's just my experience though, I'm sure it's fine for a lot of people.

KT

Out of curiousity, was most of that experience with homeschoolers as a child or adult? Again, I do think that homeschoolers can often be misfits with their peers as children but in my experience they have good social interactions with and as adults.

Well adult I guess, but we are talking between 19 and 25, so adult may be a bit of a stretch.

KT

Eh, that's about the age when I'd expect it to be normalizing out, but it also depends on the culture of the social crowd you're running with. If you're talking about Friday evenings out at the bar, you're still likely to see misfits. If you're talking a professional work environment, I'd expect more social normalcy.

lol @ professional work environment... that basically means you don't talk unless you are spoken to. Talk when necessary, and even then only about work and "did you run into this problem?", if that...

We already know you have no life experience. No need to keep driving this point home.
 

AreaCode7O7

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: AreaCode707
Have a field day. I'm now late for something so I won't be back on til later.

what Heroes or something?

Those statistics are sort of dated for someone in the 'know', but anyway only show the grade aspect and not much about the end results.

No one here is debating the richer you are the more opportunities to educate at home there are, but many are done out of special reasons due to location and the like rather than someone.

I don't think you know your own argument.

Are you still being homeschooled or something?

I cited "statistics that show homeschoolers performing so well." I then linked (second link) to statistics that display scholastic achievement. The first link was background information that more pertains to other commentary in the thread.

My appointment yesterday was meeting an ex-coworker who's just recovered from having a benign brain tumor removed, thank you.

Next time, read all the links prior to insulting the data somebody provides you upon request.
 

alkemyst

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Right kids do fine at K-12 home schooled...that wasn't the point.

What have any of them really done in the last 5-10 years....maybe becoming a NASCAR driver is 'kinda kewl' to these types, but it had nothing to do with home schooling.