Holy WTF Corolla!!!?

Proprioceptive

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So yeah, I've been in the school of "people are stupid drivers" throughout this entire runaway Toyota debacle, and I've thoroughly enjoyed making fun of some of the people trying to fake accidents to get money out of it... but seriously, not in a million years would I have EVER imagined that my 2010 Corolla would take off on me. NEVER. However, as a strange twist of fate would have it, my Corolla accelerated on its own this afternoon. I shen you not. After just starting my car and pulling out of my parking space, I was rolling along at about 5 mph and suddently... WHEEEEEE!!!!!

Okay, so it wasn't that exciting, but it did accelerate on its own to about 15-20mph at which point I hit the brakes hard and threw it in Neutral. I seriously never thought I would be telling anyone that I have a runaway Toyota, but wow.

By the way, sorry, no pics or video, and no wife pics either... just have to cover my bases. Flame on, flamers!
 
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TwinsenTacquito

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They replaced parts that have nothing to do with the problem so that they could tell people they found a solution. The solution is less stupid electronics, but they will not remove those.

Maybe different floor mats, or they took off the gas pedal for an identical new one?
 

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That is strange. There is a thread on prius chat about the "brake fix" for priuses not necessarily solving the problem they have (some people when on a bumpy road and braking will lose brakes for about one second).
 

pcgeek11

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That is strange. There is a thread on prius chat about the "brake fix" for priuses not necessarily solving the problem they have (some people when on a bumpy road and braking will lose brakes for about one second).

That is the system shifting from electric brakes to hydraulic brakes. I see dumb people.
 

TraumaRN

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That is the system shifting from electric brakes to hydraulic brakes. I see dumb people.

Some hybrid owners aren't as intelligent as others.

The way I see it, the Prius braking 'issue' is one giant RTFM issue.
 

exdeath

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I hate throttle by wire. I tried power brake launching the 07 Avalon just to see how it would deal with it. Brake on, accelerator to the floor, engine stalling at 2500 RPM +/- through the torque converter. Release the brake... power dies all of the sudden and the car takes off from idle before allowing it to rev up further...

It wasn't traction/launch control, I know what that feels like and the slip light didn't come on. It was strictly the FBW logic.
 

razor2025

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I hate the drive-by-wire pedal on my TSX too. I was used to the cable pedal on my old Protege, so when I'm shifting, I'm already pressing into the gas pedal while releasing my clutch, just like the text-book. Now, I have to make sure that I clutch out and THEN wait half-second before I press the gas pedal. If I don't, instead of slowly going from 0% throttle, the TSX lurches forward at 10,20% throttle instantaneously, due to the stupid delay from pedal input to the throttle control.
 

Zap

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Heh, first time I ever drove my mom's (then) new 1989 Mercury Sable, it suddenly accelerated on me. It was when we were picking it up from the dealer. I started it, shifted into D while I had my foot on the brake. It suddenly lurched and the RPMs jumped up. I stomped on the brakes hard and probably only traveled 5-10' or so, then the RPMs dropped and it was back to normal. She owned it for a decade and it never did that again. Strange.
 

dawp

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I was wondering if this sudden acceleration is limited to autos or are manuals affected too. I have a 2004 solara with a stick and have never had this happen to me.
 

Tsavo

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I had a new Suburban that activated the cruise control when I was turning a slow 10 MPH corner. Luckily the slow corner quickly unwound into a straight otherwise I'd be passing Mars by now.
 

StageLeft

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I hate throttle by wire. I tried power brake launching the 07 Avalon just to see how it would deal with it. Brake on, accelerator to the floor, engine stalling at 2500 RPM +/- through the torque converter. Release the brake... power dies all of the sudden and the car takes off from idle before allowing it to rev up further...

It wasn't traction/launch control, I know what that feels like and the slip light didn't come on. It was strictly the FBW logic.
Try it in a Prius, I think you'll have even worse luck. In fact, if you gun the engine in neutral...nothing happens, not even a single turn over of the car it's like you're doing nothing!
 

zoiks

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Wow. That's pretty scary OP. Unintended acceleration at the wrong moment can result in a real tragedy.
 

ayabe

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Well good thing your brain didn't shut down like most of the stories I hear. Glad you're ok, hope you can get it fixed.
 
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Try it in a Prius, I think you'll have even worse luck. In fact, if you gun the engine in neutral...nothing happens, not even a single turn over of the car it's like you're doing nothing!

Everyone knows that if you gun the engine in a prius nothing happens, regardless of the gear you're in :p
 

exar333

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Some hybrid owners aren't as intelligent as others.

The way I see it, the Prius braking 'issue' is one giant RTFM issue.

Interesting. You apparently don't see a problem with a system "designed" to be a feature that can potentially lengthen stopping distances? Even a 1-second delay at 60mph means the car could travel an extra 50+ feet while stopping.

Who pulled the wool over your eyes? Toyota engineered this crappy regenerist braking for the Prius, and it was done poorly. Other car companies have regen-type braking that does not have this delay between electronic and hydraulic systems. Toyota=fail on this one. Don't kid yourself.
 

StageLeft

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The Prius braking issue is real. There is a expectation of a delay in some conditions (not a second), but obviously a second at high speed is a great distance and in any case Toyota acknowledges this by virtue of a software recall for the Prius.

I only have 800 miles but have experienced nothing strange braking, in fact the regen->friction brake is absolutely seamless to me. I've not done any hard stops, though, but this one second delay is a hard stop only on bumpy roads.
 

TraumaRN

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Interesting. You apparently don't see a problem with a system "designed" to be a feature that can potentially lengthen stopping distances? Even a 1-second delay at 60mph means the car could travel an extra 50+ feet while stopping.

Who pulled the wool over your eyes? Toyota engineered this crappy regenerist braking for the Prius, and it was done poorly. Other car companies have regen-type braking that does not have this delay between electronic and hydraulic systems. Toyota=fail on this one. Don't kid yourself.

I'm not kidding myself and I realize it's Toyota fail...what I'm saying is people need to understand that even on the best designed system there are bound to be quirks, my Fusion Hybrid doesn't have the problem the Prius does but sometimes when the roads are wet the transition from regen to hydraulic can be quite jarring(ie instant stop) because of the wet rotors/pads suddenly gripping.

And going back to the owner of the vehicle, if you don't at least have a minimum understanding of how your car works then IMO you are asking for trouble.
 

JeepinEd

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That is strange. There is a thread on prius chat about the "brake fix" for priuses not necessarily solving the problem they have (some people when on a bumpy road and braking will lose brakes for about one second).

I'm pretty sure that's the traction control. As I posted before, I can replicate that issue at will on a certain part of the 405 freeway. Still kinda freaky, though.
 

TwinsenTacquito

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I'm not kidding myself and I realize it's Toyota fail...what I'm saying is people need to understand that even on the best designed system there are bound to be quirks, my Fusion Hybrid doesn't have the problem the Prius does but sometimes when the roads are wet the transition from regen to hydraulic can be quite jarring(ie instant stop) because of the wet rotors/pads suddenly gripping.

And going back to the owner of the vehicle, if you don't at least have a minimum understanding of how your car works then IMO you are asking for trouble.

So we should change the law so it says following distance is a minimum of 2 seconds, except in Toyotas because they're 50% less safe than all other cars. But ppl would cry.