Holy hell...

[theevilsharpie]

well since this is still open, I am willing to pay for invites to the certain good index/search sites so i can find my clip art easily still.

http://www.clipart.com/

All the clip art you could ever want.

That is what you wanted, right? :whiste:

 

[lxskllr]

http://www.clipart.com/

All the clip art you could ever want.

That is what you wanted, right? :whiste:

On a serious note, here's a wiki that lists many projects that are free for personal use. Some are truly libre, while others are merely shareable. Useful for personal entertainment, or professional use with web development, or other commercial interests...

http://fossilbank.wikidot.com/

 

[IceBergSLiM]

if the providers offered me an attractive internet and cable tv combo at ~$70 per month or less with $2.00 movie streaming rentals and ala carte programing options I would stop pirating altogether.


However I cannot justify the $150.00 per month to get 300 channels with 97% of which I will never make use of so until then I will do what I gotta do.

 

[Ns1]

if the providers offered me an attractive internet and cable tv combo at ~$70 per month or less with $2.00 movie streaming rentals and ala carte programing options I would stop pirating altogether.


However I cannot justify the $150.00 per month to get 300 channels with 97% of which I will never make use of so until then I will do what I gotta do.

Right, because you NEED 300 channels @ 150/month.

$2 moving streaming rentals = amazon instant video

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Right, because you NEED 300 channels @ 150/month.

$2 moving streaming rentals = amazon instant video

your right I don't need it however to get access to the handful of channels I do want they would want to push me into some plan thats way over kill.

I use hulu/netflix/amazon prime ehavily now and get by with almost 80%+ of what I want to watch. I even found some european sites that stream NFL games that I can WIDI to my TV from my lappy

 

[SMOGZINN]

We'll never know their innermost private thoughts about copyright protections, but we know they felt it important enough to enshrine in the U.S. Constitution, and that's really all that counts.

I am an 'information should be free' type personally, but I agree that some limited copyright is probably a useful thing. The problem is that copyright has been usurped by a few powerful individuals and extended out to ridiculous lengths. The Founding Fathers thought 14 years would be a reasonable time frame, back when it could take more then a year for a book to actually reach your target audience. Today you can finish writing a book and have it in the hands of your readers in a matter of hours, if not minutes. Copyright needs to be shorter, not longer then 14 years. Realistically copyright needs to be no longer then a few years.

I think you give modern-day newsgroups too much credit. If greater than 0.01% of the traffic was legitimate, I'd be surprised.

I think you underestimate the number of groups out there that is heavily used by sub-cultures that would rather not be noticed because they are afraid of societies reaction.

 

[SMOGZINN]

I'll certainly agree with you there. Patents and (particularly) copyrights have been extended to the point of abuse, and the system is in dire need of reform.

If pirates were releasing things like Snow White and Bambi as an act of civil disobedience against companies that abuse excessively long copyrights, I wouldn't have a problem with it. However, they're releasing anything and everything, often before it's been officially published. I'm not sure what a reasonable limit for a copyright is in today's world, but I'm pretty sure it's greater than '0'

To have any reasonable hope of change you have to do more then be slightly annoying.

 

[theevilsharpie]

To have any reasonable hope of change you have to do more then be slightly annoying.

Let's not kid ourselves. Pirates aren't in it for societal change. They just want free shit.

 

[theevilsharpie]

I think you underestimate the number of groups out there that is heavily used by sub-cultures that would rather not be noticed because they are afraid of societies reaction.

Subcultures that don't want to be noticed use darknets like Tor or Freenet. Even they've moved on.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Let's not kid ourselves. Pirates aren't in it for societal change. They just want free shit.

So you know a good number of them? I'm not talking about the people downloading. I'm talking about the people that run the big sites, about the ones that get 0 day warez out there. Those are the Pirates. There the ones working on social change. All the leechers are just the medium the pirates are using.

 

[BladeVenom]

well... back to ripping DVDs i guess...

If they are more than 14 years old, it's OK by Thomas Jefferson.

 

[pcslookout]

If they are more than 14 years old, it's OK by Thomas Jefferson.

Are you sure about that?