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ultimatebob

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Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Wow. What a waste of a fine German automobile. I pity the passengers, too, although it looks like they were going WAY too fast.

Too fast?? What was your first clue... :p

:D

OK, that's it! I want my official new nickname to be "Captain Obvious" :)
 

Shockwave

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: Mill
There is no proof they were driving like an idiot. That speedo is in kmh so it is very possible they went into a lateral skid and the tree just was unforgiving. I shocked that the airbags didn't deploy. Maybe it didn't have airbags for that model? I'm not sure if they were mandated in Portugal. Either way that is a disturbing set of photos. The other night I had to swerve away from a damn deer and I started skidding sideways. I steered out of it and regained traction. Thank God I've driven cars to their limits for a good while(even though I really don't now), but if I hadn't I probably would have hit the deer or wrecked.

Yeah, other then
1) Its a straight road
2) The car is TORN IN HALF. You dont do that at 60 MPH

how do u know that its a straight road?
It is entriely possible that the torn got torn in half at 60 mph, if it hits the tree at the right angle..

A 60 mph impact is not going to tear a car in half. It just doesn't work that way.

I hit the stump of a much larger tree at ~40 mph (got ran off the road), & my car had no real damage.

The speedo reading is completely irrevelant, it's normal for speedos to be hosed when you wreck. Even if it WERE reading wheel rotation accurately at the moment of impactin a skid the reading would be useless.

Viper GTS

None of us know the speed. Like you said speedos are typically hosed. I've seen plenty of very bad accidents at less than 60 that really tore up a car. The car could have easily hit that just right that caused that sort of damage. Trees are massive objects when you think about it, and unlike freeway barriers or guardrails they are not designed to distribute impact and give in to reduce shock and damage. My brother hit a tree in a 89 Oldsmobile(pretty big and well built car and he was going about 45. The car wasn't sheered in half, but the tree he hit was smaller and it wasn't a perfect side impact. The car was completely totaled however. Wrecks are odd beasts. No one knows the physics of what happened. You don't have to be driving like an idiot to be in a massive wreck.

Totalled is a very misleading word. I rolled a car once, only thing really wrong was the body panels, and only half of those were messed up (Just rolled onto the top, not a complete roll) and it was totalled.
Totalled is the point where it costs more the fix the car then just simply replace it. Body work is expensive by any definition (unless Bubba down at Fix it Qik is doin it).
This isnt a "totalled". This is a car literally torn in half from the force of impact. This DOES NOT HAPPEN at normal speeds. You may bend the everloving hell out of a frame (which can quickly total a car as well) but to rip it in half........
You have to be niave to think this was a highway speed accident that just happened to go just perfectly to tear it in half.
 

Spencer278

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Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: Mill
There is no proof they were driving like an idiot. That speedo is in kmh so it is very possible they went into a lateral skid and the tree just was unforgiving. I shocked that the airbags didn't deploy. Maybe it didn't have airbags for that model? I'm not sure if they were mandated in Portugal. Either way that is a disturbing set of photos. The other night I had to swerve away from a damn deer and I started skidding sideways. I steered out of it and regained traction. Thank God I've driven cars to their limits for a good while(even though I really don't now), but if I hadn't I probably would have hit the deer or wrecked.

yes deers are EXTREMELY dangerous..

if you hit one head on, it will total your car.. if you swerve around it at around 60mph, you = kaput as well..

gotta be REAAALlllyyy careful driving in the woods..

Deer are not that dangerous. Try hitting a mouse. Two tons centered above most car hoods so that when you hit them in thier legs the rest of the animal lands right on top of the car. I saw one mouse hit that had the roof caved into the drivers side seat. The driver walk away some how.
 

Mill

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: Mill
There is no proof they were driving like an idiot. That speedo is in kmh so it is very possible they went into a lateral skid and the tree just was unforgiving. I shocked that the airbags didn't deploy. Maybe it didn't have airbags for that model? I'm not sure if they were mandated in Portugal. Either way that is a disturbing set of photos. The other night I had to swerve away from a damn deer and I started skidding sideways. I steered out of it and regained traction. Thank God I've driven cars to their limits for a good while(even though I really don't now), but if I hadn't I probably would have hit the deer or wrecked.

Yeah, other then
1) Its a straight road
2) The car is TORN IN HALF. You dont do that at 60 MPH

how do u know that its a straight road?
It is entriely possible that the torn got torn in half at 60 mph, if it hits the tree at the right angle..

A 60 mph impact is not going to tear a car in half. It just doesn't work that way.

I hit the stump of a much larger tree at ~40 mph (got ran off the road), & my car had no real damage.

The speedo reading is completely irrevelant, it's normal for speedos to be hosed when you wreck. Even if it WERE reading wheel rotation accurately at the moment of impactin a skid the reading would be useless.

Viper GTS

None of us know the speed. Like you said speedos are typically hosed. I've seen plenty of very bad accidents at less than 60 that really tore up a car. The car could have easily hit that just right that caused that sort of damage. Trees are massive objects when you think about it, and unlike freeway barriers or guardrails they are not designed to distribute impact and give in to reduce shock and damage. My brother hit a tree in a 89 Oldsmobile(pretty big and well built car and he was going about 45. The car wasn't sheered in half, but the tree he hit was smaller and it wasn't a perfect side impact. The car was completely totaled however. Wrecks are odd beasts. No one knows the physics of what happened. You don't have to be driving like an idiot to be in a massive wreck.

Totalled is a very misleading word. I rolled a car once, only thing really wrong was the body panels, and only half of those were messed up (Just rolled onto the top, not a complete roll) and it was totalled.
Totalled is the point where it costs more the fix the car then just simply replace it. Body work is expensive by any definition (unless Bubba down at Fix it Qik is doin it).
This isnt a "totalled". This is a car literally torn in half from the force of impact. This DOES NOT HAPPEN at normal speeds. You may bend the everloving hell out of a frame (which can quickly total a car as well) but to rip it in half........
You have to be niave to think this was a highway speed accident that just happened to go just perfectly to tear it in half.

I never said the driver was driving slow, but we don't know the speed limit on the road are the speed they were driving. It could have been a road with a pretty fast limit. There are regular surface roads here in alabama that are long and straight that have limits of 60-65 mph. When I said totalled, I didn't mean by body damage. The whole passenger side was crushed in with the body of the car and the underneath bent around the tree. I know that can be confusing, because you can total a car with flood damage. I'm simply saying that this person could have been doing the limit or slightly over it and hit that tree. Who knows if the frame was in perfect shape? Maybe it had been weakened by a prior wreck or whatever. If there was a video of the crash with the guy doing 180kmh I'd be happy to call him an idiot. Until then it is all conjecture.
 

z0mb13

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Originally posted by: Spencer278
Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: Mill
There is no proof they were driving like an idiot. That speedo is in kmh so it is very possible they went into a lateral skid and the tree just was unforgiving. I shocked that the airbags didn't deploy. Maybe it didn't have airbags for that model? I'm not sure if they were mandated in Portugal. Either way that is a disturbing set of photos. The other night I had to swerve away from a damn deer and I started skidding sideways. I steered out of it and regained traction. Thank God I've driven cars to their limits for a good while(even though I really don't now), but if I hadn't I probably would have hit the deer or wrecked.

yes deers are EXTREMELY dangerous..

if you hit one head on, it will total your car.. if you swerve around it at around 60mph, you = kaput as well..

gotta be REAAALlllyyy careful driving in the woods..

Deer are not that dangerous. Try hitting a mouse. Two tons centered above most car hoods so that when you hit them in thier legs the rest of the animal lands right on top of the car. I saw one mouse hit that had the roof caved into the drivers side seat. The driver walk away some how.

are u sure u dont mean MOOSE??
 

Shockwave

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Originally posted by: Spencer278
Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: Mill
There is no proof they were driving like an idiot. That speedo is in kmh so it is very possible they went into a lateral skid and the tree just was unforgiving. I shocked that the airbags didn't deploy. Maybe it didn't have airbags for that model? I'm not sure if they were mandated in Portugal. Either way that is a disturbing set of photos. The other night I had to swerve away from a damn deer and I started skidding sideways. I steered out of it and regained traction. Thank God I've driven cars to their limits for a good while(even though I really don't now), but if I hadn't I probably would have hit the deer or wrecked.

yes deers are EXTREMELY dangerous..

if you hit one head on, it will total your car.. if you swerve around it at around 60mph, you = kaput as well..

gotta be REAAALlllyyy careful driving in the woods..

Deer are not that dangerous. Try hitting a mouse. Two tons centered above most car hoods so that when you hit them in thier legs the rest of the animal lands right on top of the car. I saw one mouse hit that had the roof caved into the drivers side seat. The driver walk away some how.

Yeah, mice are certainly dangerous........ :confused:

:D
 

Mill

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: Spencer278
Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: Mill
There is no proof they were driving like an idiot. That speedo is in kmh so it is very possible they went into a lateral skid and the tree just was unforgiving. I shocked that the airbags didn't deploy. Maybe it didn't have airbags for that model? I'm not sure if they were mandated in Portugal. Either way that is a disturbing set of photos. The other night I had to swerve away from a damn deer and I started skidding sideways. I steered out of it and regained traction. Thank God I've driven cars to their limits for a good while(even though I really don't now), but if I hadn't I probably would have hit the deer or wrecked.

yes deers are EXTREMELY dangerous..

if you hit one head on, it will total your car.. if you swerve around it at around 60mph, you = kaput as well..

gotta be REAAALlllyyy careful driving in the woods..

Deer are not that dangerous. Try hitting a mouse. Two tons centered above most car hoods so that when you hit them in thier legs the rest of the animal lands right on top of the car. I saw one mouse hit that had the roof caved into the drivers side seat. The driver walk away some how.

are u sure u dont mean MOOSE??

I hope so, or that is a big fvcking mouse.
 

z0mb13

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Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: Spencer278
Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: Mill
There is no proof they were driving like an idiot. That speedo is in kmh so it is very possible they went into a lateral skid and the tree just was unforgiving. I shocked that the airbags didn't deploy. Maybe it didn't have airbags for that model? I'm not sure if they were mandated in Portugal. Either way that is a disturbing set of photos. The other night I had to swerve away from a damn deer and I started skidding sideways. I steered out of it and regained traction. Thank God I've driven cars to their limits for a good while(even though I really don't now), but if I hadn't I probably would have hit the deer or wrecked.

yes deers are EXTREMELY dangerous..

if you hit one head on, it will total your car.. if you swerve around it at around 60mph, you = kaput as well..

gotta be REAAALlllyyy careful driving in the woods..

Deer are not that dangerous. Try hitting a mouse. Two tons centered above most car hoods so that when you hit them in thier legs the rest of the animal lands right on top of the car. I saw one mouse hit that had the roof caved into the drivers side seat. The driver walk away some how.

Yeah, mice are certainly dangerous........ :confused:

:D

LOL he doesnt know the difference between a mouse and a moose..

 

Spencer278

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Oct 11, 2002
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Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: Mill
There is no proof they were driving like an idiot. That speedo is in kmh so it is very possible they went into a lateral skid and the tree just was unforgiving. I shocked that the airbags didn't deploy. Maybe it didn't have airbags for that model? I'm not sure if they were mandated in Portugal. Either way that is a disturbing set of photos. The other night I had to swerve away from a damn deer and I started skidding sideways. I steered out of it and regained traction. Thank God I've driven cars to their limits for a good while(even though I really don't now), but if I hadn't I probably would have hit the deer or wrecked.

Yeah, other then
1) Its a straight road
2) The car is TORN IN HALF. You dont do that at 60 MPH

how do u know that its a straight road?
It is entriely possible that the torn got torn in half at 60 mph, if it hits the tree at the right angle..

A 60 mph impact is not going to tear a car in half. It just doesn't work that way.

I hit the stump of a much larger tree at ~40 mph (got ran off the road), & my car had no real damage.

The speedo reading is completely irrevelant, it's normal for speedos to be hosed when you wreck. Even if it WERE reading wheel rotation accurately at the moment of impactin a skid the reading would be useless.

Viper GTS

None of us know the speed. Like you said speedos are typically hosed. I've seen plenty of very bad accidents at less than 60 that really tore up a car. The car could have easily hit that just right that caused that sort of damage. Trees are massive objects when you think about it, and unlike freeway barriers or guardrails they are not designed to distribute impact and give in to reduce shock and damage. My brother hit a tree in a 89 Oldsmobile(pretty big and well built car and he was going about 45. The car wasn't sheered in half, but the tree he hit was smaller and it wasn't a perfect side impact. The car was completely totaled however. Wrecks are odd beasts. No one knows the physics of what happened. You don't have to be driving like an idiot to be in a massive wreck.

Totalled is a very misleading word. I rolled a car once, only thing really wrong was the body panels, and only half of those were messed up (Just rolled onto the top, not a complete roll) and it was totalled.
Totalled is the point where it costs more the fix the car then just simply replace it. Body work is expensive by any definition (unless Bubba down at Fix it Qik is doin it).
This isnt a "totalled". This is a car literally torn in half from the force of impact. This DOES NOT HAPPEN at normal speeds. You may bend the everloving hell out of a frame (which can quickly total a car as well) but to rip it in half........
You have to be niave to think this was a highway speed accident that just happened to go just perfectly to tear it in half.


The angle and size of the tree are just as important as the speed if the car hits completely side on the there is going to be alot more damage. I would guess that the car was about 45 degrees off striaght. It would be rather difficult to go much more then that with the relativly small distance from the road the first tree is.
 

milagro

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Am I the only one that doesn't see this shoe that keeps being mentioned? 4th pic? where? man..its like where's waldo or something..
 

MAME

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is what happens when you drive like an idiot.

That should be required reading for new drivers, along with pics of the people they extracted from that mess.

Viper GTS

maybe they were trying to avoid a deer

you dummy
 

rudeguy

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Originally posted by: milagro
Am I the only one that doesn't see this shoe that keeps being mentioned? 4th pic? where? man..its like where's waldo or something..

look right above the pinecone.

and WOW...just WOW
 
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That is just amazing. I think it's probably unfair to assume the driver was doing anything wrong - nobody but an accident reconstruction expert with a chance to view the scene would be able to conclusively say what happened (though even as a liberal-arts major with no physics background I tend to think this must have involved some very high speeds). In any case it is a horrifying accident.
 

milagro

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Originally posted by: GoodDad
Originally posted by: milagro
Am I the only one that doesn't see this shoe that keeps being mentioned? 4th pic? where? man..its like where's waldo or something..

look right above the pinecone.

and WOW...just WOW

hmmm... i suppose...


if only they'd worn seatbelts
 

Shockwave

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You guys want to know what happened. Look in the 2nd to last pic. Its ALL right there except what initially caused loss of control, which is of course the big thing. The road the car was coming down is straight. The first impact, which split the car, was the tree with the door wrapped around it. The car split there and 2 halves continued on.
The road was straight, as you can see in the picture. Which means no missed corner, no oversteer / understeer etc etc. It was also dry, thus no loss of control due to rain or hydroplaning.
The rate of speed was freaking FAST. The car had enough juice in it to hit a tree, shatter into two peices (Which is no small feat in and of itself) and then the remaining halves, particularly the backend, STILL had enough momentum to do signifigant damage upon the second impact with the tree, as can be see from the crushed bumper.

Ok, this isnt grandma out doin the speed limit here fellas. By the way, what kind of car is it?
 

milagro

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Originally posted by: GoodDad
Originally posted by: kerokeroppi82
wow how does a car split into 4 pieces like that...

I dont know, but I will probably have nightmares about this pic

damn...was all set to leave this thread and now this...what's your problem w/ this pic?
 

So

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*whistles*

:Q

That door looks like it was put there by sherman.


Others have noted that the Speedometer says ~85KPH, but that is probably after some drastic deceleration by the driver (and pobbibly a tree).
 

So

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*whistles*

:Q

That door looks like it was put there by sherman.


Others have noted that the Speedometer says ~85KPH, but that is probably after some drastic deceleration by the driver (and possibly a tree).
 

rudeguy

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Originally posted by: milagro
Originally posted by: GoodDad
Originally posted by: kerokeroppi82
wow how does a car split into 4 pieces like that...

I dont know, but I will probably have nightmares about this pic

damn...was all set to leave this thread and now this...what's your problem w/ this pic?

thats a door that someone was sitting inches away from. Its now part of a tree. Doors arent supposed to become parts of trees.
 

So

Lifer
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Originally posted by: GoodDad
Originally posted by: milagro
Originally posted by: GoodDad
Originally posted by: kerokeroppi82
wow how does a car split into 4 pieces like that...

I dont know, but I will probably have nightmares about this pic

damn...was all set to leave this thread and now this...what's your problem w/ this pic?

thats a door that someone was sitting inches away from. Its now part of a tree. Doors arent supposed to become parts of trees.

unless you're the most awesome geneticist ever!
 

halik

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couple of things,
this happened in portugal - the ambulance has ESMORIZ on the side which is a city in portugal. Also all the cars have EU plate stickers.
The car was 98+ a3 w/ sport package. those all came with front and side airbags. You can see the side bag blew (the seat is ripped on the pass side) and the front one didnt since there was no immediate impact in the front of the car.

Im guessing the guy was tryng to evade something because its hard to lose traction in a quattro car (driveshaft by the body bags) that doesnt have all that much power

id take the rims btw...