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Holy crap, the NFL admits a refferee completely blew a call? Cost the Bucs a Win?!

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Tampa Bay Buccaneers offensive coordinator Greg Olson told the St. Petersburg Times that the NFL informed the team tight end Kellen Winslow was incorrectly called for a pass-interference penalty that wiped out a fourth-quarter touchdown in Sunday's loss to the Detroit Lions.

Winslow and Lions safety C.C. Brown were engaged in the end zone before the tight end broke free and caught a 2-yard touchdown on a third-and-goal play. However, Winslow was flagged, forcing the Bucs to settle for a tying field goal. Tampa Bay eventually lost in overtime, 23-20.

"They apologized," Olson told the newspaper Wednesday. "We've had a number of those this year. It's real discouraging. We've played some tight games, but you can't have those kinds of mistakes. It's disappointing, obviously. Now, it wasn't the only play in the game, but it was a critical one at a critical time."Bucs coach Raheem Morris wouldn't comment directly on the review.

"It's Christmas, and I just bought a bunch of people gifts," Morris said. "I like to keep my money (and avoid fines for criticizing officials) so I can provide gifts for my lovely staff."
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...winslows-td-was-incorrect?module=HP_headlines


So a stupid reff blows a game that cost a team their playoff implications and the best the NFL can say is "Oops, Sorry".

Sure, the Bucs aren't the best team in the NFL, but that call just cost them a chance...
 
While the NFL is handing out apologies I think they owe one (or more) to the Steelers for all the no calls on the pass interference that was going on against the Jets Sunday.

I think its time for the NFL to get rid of some of the stupid and unnecessary rules that are messing up the game and start using full time refs.
 
Gyhrg71 said:
While the NFL is handing out apologies I think they owe one (or more) to the Steelers for all the no calls on the pass interference that was going on against the Jets Sunday.

I think its time for the NFL to get rid of some of the stupid and unnecessary rules that are messing up the game and start using full time refs.
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I think they should start using full time replay booths.
 
I would hate to be a ref now. This year is no different than any other year but hell we have a camera at almost every angle now. I'm still waiting for the 'under the pile' cam to be placed in every blade of grass.
 
rcpratt said:
I've seen about three thousand worse calls in the NFL this year.
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Did those calls also cost a team a touchdown, a win, and potentially a place in the playoffs? There have definitely been worse calls this year, many of those against the Bucs as well. It was the timing of this particular call that was so onerous.
 
TastesLikeChicken said:
Did those calls also cost a team a touchdown, a win, and potentially a place in the playoffs? There have definitely been worse calls this year, many of those against the Bucs as well. It was the timing of this particular call that was so onerous.
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He's a Lions fan. IIRC, the Lions were screwed out of two wins this year.
 
TastesLikeChicken said:
Did those calls also cost a team a touchdown, a win, and potentially a place in the playoffs? There have definitely been worse calls this year, many of those against the Bucs as well. It was the timing of this particular call that was so onerous.
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Not a place in the playoffs, but week one's "Process" incomplete call on a would be Calvin Johnson Game Winning TD comes to mind.
 
Games aren't called perfectly. It is part of the sport. You still lose if you allow an imperfect call to decide the game against you.
 
The officiating this year has been the worst officiating I can recall in 30 years of watching the NFL. With that being said, refs are human and make mistakes. What do you expect the NFL to do? Say "Sorry, we'll give you the win"?
 
I'll chime in and say the same thing worst officiating in 30 years. It kind of started with James Harrison getting fined and people bitching that if a flag is not getting thrown then he should not get fined. Then it want to far the other way throwing flags left and right on good clean hits. Then watching the Steelers/Jets game and Ben getting mugged out there and nothing being thrown and giving 2 free first downs to the Steelers was just a wtf moment for the kind of year it has been for officiating.
 
this is going to happen due to human error. this is also the thing i hope never changes about the game. if we had to instant replay every flag, every close call, every non-call, the game would take ages to complete and the fun would be lost in watching.
 
Once the hit to the head rules have become overly enforced it's become a mess. I've seen a horsecollar tackle on Tim Hightower not called and a non existent one called. There have been some nonexistent facemask calls too. Expect some league talks in the off season--esp. if some these same examples above happen during the Super Bowl.

That being said, with the new process rule the call on Johnson was correct and Johnson should have known better--you have to complete the catch.
 
Fingolfin269 said:
I would hate to be a ref now. This year is no different than any other year but hell we have a camera at almost every angle now. I'm still waiting for the 'under the pile' cam to be placed in every blade of grass.
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I think they should put some kind of tracking chip in the nose of the ball so they can always determine the exact spot. Sure, it would raise the cost per ball, but it can't be that much. 😛
 
It seems that the NFL is going out of its way to complicate the game more and more. Seems that every team has called the NFL's front office for officiating to get a clear and concise ruling, and often the NFL comes back with an even more confusing answer.

Keep the game simple and hire these refs full time.
 
JohnnyGage said:
Once the hit to the head rules have become overly enforced it's become a mess. I've seen a horsecollar tackle on Tim Hightower not called and a non existent one called. There have been some nonexistent facemask calls too. Expect some league talks in the off season--esp. if some these same examples above happen during the Super Bowl.

That being said, with the new process rule the call on Johnson was correct and Johnson should have known better--you have to complete the catch.
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He was already down, the process was complete. HE got up off the ground by pushing off the ball and let it go.
 
venkman said:
He was already down, the process was complete. HE got up off the ground by pushing off the ball and let it go.
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Sorry has to go through the ground. Meaning he has maintain possesion through the entire catch. In all honesty, it should have been a touchdown but that is not the rule. If this rule had been in place in '78 this touchdown by Butch Johnson in Super Bowl XII would be negated (I hope I spelled that right).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1yYs8At1dY
 
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