*Holy Crap* PDA & MP3 player users rejoice...500MB Dataplay discs = $10 !!!!!!!

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NFS4

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<< If you think that something that is $10 that is non rewritable is cheap, then you better save up. $10 for a piece of WORM media is for 5 years ago. >>


You are missing the whole point of the uses of this device. Read the website for gosh sakes! ;) This is a God send for people who use Microdrives and other such devices in cameras and PDA.

You use a cheap $10 Dataplay disc and take 1000 pictures from your digital camera. Otherwise you'd be stuck with a an expensive $350 540 MB Microdrive to store that many pics.

You could take 35,000 pictures for the price of one 540MB Microdrive.

I GUESS YOU PEOPLE JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND!! Maybe you just don't use PDA's or Digital Cameras or MP3 players...oh well. If you don't this thread wasn't aimed at you anyway...it was aimed at people that understand the concept which I'm tired of explaining over and over again:(
 

NFS4

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Well, if you look at the current trend of CF, SmartMedia, and MMC, you'll know that USB adapters will run for $25.

Multimedia cards are very new and their adapters run for that price as well (~$25). You need one of these adapters to be able to read it on your desktop. i.e., any Microdrive or Compact Flash card needs a CompactFlash USB adapter to be able to be read from your desktop.

SmartMedia to CompactFlash adapters range from about $15 to $20.
I just picked up a CompactFlash to PCMCIA adapter for my iPAQ for $12.
A dataplay to CF or PCMCIA should be around the same price range.

The adpaters don't cost that much, so that isn't a problem.
 

Sohcan

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Well I think it's cool NFS4 :). On this page they're saying between $5 and $10 for blank discs. But I have doubts if there can be CF adapters for existing CF devices. The beauty of CF is that the media itself contains the drive controller, so any CF device can use any future CF media. CF -> PCMCIA adapters are small and simple because they just need to convert the pin-out. But from the looks of the Dataplay discs, it seems that it only contains the media and nothing else...a Dataplay -> CF adapter would probably be too large for existing CF devices (at least cameras and MP3 players). Oh well, we can only hope...
 

NOX

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<< If you think that something that is $10 that is non rewritable is cheap, then you better save up. >>

You need to consider what this type of device will be used for. Not that is cost more then a CD-R! CD-R?s have a purpose, to save, back-up, record data, audio etc, on to a 5? 650-700MB CD to play on your stereo, or computer etc. The Data play device will allow for use with cell phones, PDA?s, digital cameras etc at the size of a quarter. The site also states the disk will retail between $5-$10. I believe this is cheap for what you?ll be using it for. Most people spend more then that for Zip disk, which only holds 100MB, and 250MB at four times the size of a Data Play disk.
 

Cknyc

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I fully agree with NFS4. I would love to have one of these when I go on vacation this summer. I wont haev to change cf cards on my camera (Since I dont own a laptop). I Think they will be great for mp3 players since you can copy tons of songs onto them from your pc. I dont think they will have such a great impact on pda's, but what do I know I have a Palm V and am happy with the memory on it.
 

prontospyder

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Cool...this company is based in Boulder, Colorado....who says the Japanese always comes up with the coolest electronic gadgets? :)
 

NFS4

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Hehe, we Americans still got it :)

Wait a minute...Boulder, Colorado...I've got a bad feeling about that ;)
 

WileCoyote

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it may not be the best invention for data storage, but it's a step in the right direction. I believe cd-r drives came out before cd-rw drives. who knows what kind of future this media has. it has a good start though- it's the size of a quarter and half a gigabyte. and it's not INSANELY expensive. it can only get better in the future.
 

Zucchini

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Wow sounds great:) I'm happy i sold my lousy rio now.. this destroys all reason to own a minidisc player.
 

ViRGE

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I fail to see how this would come in handy for cameras. Unless this media allows you to start burning from where you left off, there's no way you can takes pics with one of these things.:Q
 

prontospyder

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Yeah...you burn from where you left off...
I think Sony has a digital camera that uses CDRs....but it's sooooooo big.
 

BD2003

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500mb of personal storage is definitely sweet. However, the fact that its not rewritable puts a small dent in it for me. Quite possibly one of the most awesome potential uses for it is to use a high powered pda to play movies with it. I doubt a 206mhz ipaq can handle even a 320x240 stream of divx/mpeg4, but maybe the new 416 mhz version can. However an average divx movie runs about 600 mb itself. Maybe because of the low res you can encode a movie in 250mb, but 5 bucks a movie still kinda sucks. But you wont get much complaining from me. Digital cams will live off of it.

I'm not so sure about mp3s on pdas though. To this day I absolutely refuse to use a pda for mp3 playback. Until they can get a decent 10 hours at full cpu usage with screen on, something which no pda can do yet, I'm not even gonna bother. Thats what minidiscs are for. MD players are tiny enough that carrying both an md and a pda isnt too hard. Not to mention they sound a thousand times better than that 64kbps wma crap. It may sound better than mp3 at 64kbps, but that doesnt mean it sounds good.

One day when they can hold this much battery life and also act as a cell phone via bluetooth (not holding the pda up to your head, using a small reciever connected via bt to the main unit, kinda how a home cordless phone works), with movie and mp3..well thatll just kick ass. Hopefully in 2-3 years.

Also, I doubt readers/writers will be ~$25. CF readers are so cheap because they dont have motors or moving parts. The best comparison right now would be a iomega clik drive, and readers/writers for those run about $90, but youll need one for the pda itself, esentially doubling it to ~$180 if you look at it a certain way. Also I highly doubt you can use a dataplay slot to run modems/gps etc. I doubt CF is going anywhere anytime soon. I doubt a pda would be able to fit both without making it obscenely large. However, these things ARE tiny, and if they can manage to encase a dataplay drive in a cf card (even if it sticks out a bit), I'm buying one the day it comes out!

BTW, this is OLD news!! What took you so long!?!
 

prontospyder

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<<Quite possibly one of the most awesome potential uses for it is to use a high powered pda to play movies with it.>>

Very true.

<<BTW, this is OLD news!! What took you so long!?!>>

Well, NFS4 posted it last year...I just resurrected it last night because of a cool article I read on Newsweek. :)


 

AncientPC

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I think I saw an add in Pocket PC magazine where there's already an IBM microdrive out for $499 and blank 1gb (yes gigabyte) disk were about $15 I think.

-Ting
 

AncientPC

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I think I saw an ad in Pocket PC magazine where there's already an IBM microdrive out for $499 and blank 1gb (yes gigabyte) disk were about $15 I think.

-Ting
 

Soccerman

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somewhat already posted :)-P) here.

it's pretty neat.

the best application? music storage for audio playback devices. what are you going to use that for on a Cell Phone (besides a built in audio player)?

or for that matter, what about your pocket PC (besides Audio)?

later on, when these devices have much longer battery life spans, Video will become useful.

however, not being rewritable sucks the big one, I depend on the abilities of CDRW's alot more then CDRs.

also, if you are talking about mass media storage for between computers, the link above shows something pretty much wastes all available tech.

in other words, for computer - computer file transfer, Blue Laser CDs will be the best media.

and to go on, to something a bit off topic, I hate how everyone is depending on the internet to do file transfers. it's incredibly wastful of the internet.

I can understand some things like if you are working on a computer with no CD burner and need to send something to someone that will take more then a few floppy disks.

but when using the internet to access your music database to play on a handheld player, that's insane.

and things like that ARE COMING, it is up to the consumer to decide whether they want to trust everything to the internet. I find myself wondering about how we can keep from relying solely on one connection to the internet (a wire, or a transmitter) for everything.

currently we rely on multiple ways to get multiple media. a seperate phone line for calling people, a seperate cable for TV access (or an Antennae).

putting everything into one pipe will cause major problems, I do not think that the internet should be the backbone for Radio all over the world (perhaps is should be sent over the airwaves digitally using existing towers), nor do I think that it should carry all voice communication (again, you already have a seperate wire handling that).
 

ChipNOW

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Does anyone know what's happened to that magnetic CD thing that supported TB's of info on one disc?
 

gradivus

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Hasn't Dataplay been vapourware for years? I vagueley remember seeing them in PC World back in '98. And where the hell are the prototypes anyway? I want WORKING UNITS dammit! All I've seen so far are flimsy mockups.
 

Maverick

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Wait a minute...Boulder, Colorado...I've got a bad feeling about that

I live in Boulder, Colorado...and yes I admit...its a whole different breed of cats out here :)

For all you know, these Dataplay disks can secretly be used to smoke marijuana. :eek: