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Holy crap... marriage must suck bad...

Art Vandelay

Senior member
So my g/f from LA came over this Thursday, the first time we actually stayed together for more than a night... anyways, after 3.5 days of living together (in my apartment), I am certain marriage must suck. Just got back from dropping her off at the airport... maybe its best to have friends with benefits because BEING SINGLE IS BEING THE KING!
 
You just need to get used to having other people with other ideas of how to live in your house.


Oh, and marriage does suck.
 
Originally posted by: DurocShark
You just need to get used to having other people with other ideas of how to live in your house.


Oh, and marriage does suck.

Its just incredible, I like this girl a lot, she is beautiful, smart, and not some bar-pickup but yeah I don't think I am ready to live with anyone else yet... I used to live with 3 other guys in college, one of them moved in with his g/f but then he came back running in 2 weeks 😀 Now I know why...
 
All people, men and women, either eventually become ready for cohabitation and marriage, or they don't. You either meet the right person (someone "right enough" with no "deal breaking faults") or you DON'T.

Up until recently, I hadn't met that woman.

As someone who has cohabitated 3 times for a total of about 4 years but never been married, I can say that I've been there, done that, seen most of it and got lots of nifty T-shirts.

I feel I'm finally ready for marriage. Yes; hell has frozen over and much to my surprise, pigs are indeed flying out of my @ss. :evil: :Q


ps
Male roommates are worse than living with a score of untrained monkeys. Guys are great to hang out with, not to live with. Most men are complete pigs, can't cook and consistently blow the rent and bill money on drugs, hookers and gambling. Ask me how I know this. :roll:
 
Originally posted by: MichaelD
All people, men and women, either eventually become ready for cohabitation and marriage, or they don't. You either meet the right person (someone "right enough" with no "deal breaking faults") or you DON'T.

Up until recently, I hadn't met that woman.

As someone who has cohabitated 3 times for a total of about 4 years but never been married, I can say that I've been there, done that, seen most of it and got lots of nifty T-shirts.

I feel I'm finally ready for marriage. Yes; hell has frozen over and much to my surprise, pigs are indeed flying out of my @ss. :evil: :Q


ps
Male roommates are worse than living with a score of untrained monkeys. Guys are great to hang out with, not to live with. Most men are complete pigs, can't cook and consistently blow the rent and bill money on drugs, hookers and gambling. Ask me how I know this. :roll:

How u know this...
 
Originally posted by: JackRipper
Originally posted by: MichaelD
All people, men and women, either eventually become ready for cohabitation and marriage, or they don't. You either meet the right person (someone "right enough" with no "deal breaking faults") or you DON'T.

Up until recently, I hadn't met that woman.

As someone who has cohabitated 3 times for a total of about 4 years but never been married, I can say that I've been there, done that, seen most of it and got lots of nifty T-shirts.

I feel I'm finally ready for marriage. Yes; hell has frozen over and much to my surprise, pigs are indeed flying out of my @ss. :evil: :Q


ps
Male roommates are worse than living with a score of untrained monkeys. Guys are great to hang out with, not to live with. Most men are complete pigs, can't cook and consistently blow the rent and bill money on drugs, hookers and gambling. Ask me how I know this. :roll:

How u know this...

Did you have to ask?? <hangs head>
 
Originally posted by: JackRipper
Originally posted by: MichaelD
All people, men and women, either eventually become ready for cohabitation and marriage, or they don't. You either meet the right person (someone "right enough" with no "deal breaking faults") or you DON'T.

Up until recently, I hadn't met that woman.

As someone who has cohabitated 3 times for a total of about 4 years but never been married, I can say that I've been there, done that, seen most of it and got lots of nifty T-shirts.

I feel I'm finally ready for marriage. Yes; hell has frozen over and much to my surprise, pigs are indeed flying out of my @ss. :evil: :Q


ps
Male roommates are worse than living with a score of untrained monkeys. Guys are great to hang out with, not to live with. Most men are complete pigs, can't cook and consistently blow the rent and bill money on drugs, hookers and gambling. Ask me how I know this. :roll:

How u know this...


Circa 1996, I was renting a house with two other guys. We split the rent and the electric, phone and cable bills, as well as the yard keeping duties.

Roommate #1 - NEVER home, always at GFs. Would come over with GF 2-3 times per week with GF. Stay for a few hours, mess up bathroom and leave. He always had money for bills, but NEVER helped clean. Not one time.

Roommate #2 - ALWAYS home. Would bring home fast food every night and eat it in front of the TV. Over the course of the evening, he would slowly remove his clothing to prepare for shower/bed. He would leave his dirty drawers and socks on the couch, on the table and on the floor. Not to mention leaving empty bags and containers lying around. He would throw it away the next day...or whenever he got around to it. Always had money for food and booze but always late with the rent, never had money for phone bills. That's b/c he blew it all at the titty bars. :| He would help clean once in a blue moon.

BTW, these guys were both in their 30's; not kids by any means.

THAT'S why I've only lived w/GFs over the years.

AND that's how I know this. 😛

 
Originally posted by: MichaelD
Originally posted by: JackRipper
Originally posted by: MichaelD
All people, men and women, either eventually become ready for cohabitation and marriage, or they don't. You either meet the right person (someone "right enough" with no "deal breaking faults") or you DON'T.

Up until recently, I hadn't met that woman.

As someone who has cohabitated 3 times for a total of about 4 years but never been married, I can say that I've been there, done that, seen most of it and got lots of nifty T-shirts.

I feel I'm finally ready for marriage. Yes; hell has frozen over and much to my surprise, pigs are indeed flying out of my @ss. :evil: :Q


ps
Male roommates are worse than living with a score of untrained monkeys. Guys are great to hang out with, not to live with. Most men are complete pigs, can't cook and consistently blow the rent and bill money on drugs, hookers and gambling. Ask me how I know this. :roll:

How u know this...


Circa 1996, I was renting a house with two other guys. We split the rent and the electric, phone and cable bills, as well as the yard keeping duties.

Roommate #1 - NEVER home, always at GFs. Would come over with GF 2-3 times per week with GF. Stay for a few hours, mess up bathroom and leave. He always had money for bills, but NEVER helped clean. Not one time.

Roommate #2 - ALWAYS home. Would bring home fast food every night and eat it in front of the TV. Over the course of the evening, he would slowly remove his clothing to prepare for shower/bed. He would leave his dirty drawers and socks on the couch, on the table and on the floor. Not to mention leaving empty bags and containers lying around. He would throw it away the next day...or whenever he got around to it. Always had money for food and booze but always late with the rent, never had money for phone bills. That's b/c he blew it all at the titty bars. :| He would help clean once in a blue moon.

BTW, these guys were both in their 30's; not kids by any means.

THAT'S why I've only lived w/GFs over the years.

AND that's how I know this. 😛

That sound very American. I don't know whether it is the way you Americans are raised, or something else, but us Europeans are much more careful when we live with roomies. We are aware of our actions in common areas (such as kitchen, living room) and will leave it like we have found it 🙂 Sorry, but this is my honest opinion.... you Americans are pretty messy and don't have much respect for roomies 😛
 
Originally posted by: MichaelD
Originally posted by: JackRipper
Originally posted by: MichaelD
All people, men and women, either eventually become ready for cohabitation and marriage, or they don't. You either meet the right person (someone "right enough" with no "deal breaking faults") or you DON'T.

Up until recently, I hadn't met that woman.

As someone who has cohabitated 3 times for a total of about 4 years but never been married, I can say that I've been there, done that, seen most of it and got lots of nifty T-shirts.

I feel I'm finally ready for marriage. Yes; hell has frozen over and much to my surprise, pigs are indeed flying out of my @ss. :evil: :Q


ps
Male roommates are worse than living with a score of untrained monkeys. Guys are great to hang out with, not to live with. Most men are complete pigs, can't cook and consistently blow the rent and bill money on drugs, hookers and gambling. Ask me how I know this. :roll:

How u know this...


Circa 1996, I was renting a house with two other guys. We split the rent and the electric, phone and cable bills, as well as the yard keeping duties.

Roommate #1 - NEVER home, always at GFs. Would come over with GF 2-3 times per week with GF. Stay for a few hours, mess up bathroom and leave. He always had money for bills, but NEVER helped clean. Not one time.

Roommate #2 - ALWAYS home. Would bring home fast food every night and eat it in front of the TV. Over the course of the evening, he would slowly remove his clothing to prepare for shower/bed. He would leave his dirty drawers and socks on the couch, on the table and on the floor. Not to mention leaving empty bags and containers lying around. He would throw it away the next day...or whenever he got around to it. Always had money for food and booze but always late with the rent, never had money for phone bills. That's b/c he blew it all at the titty bars. :| He would help clean once in a blue moon.

BTW, these guys were both in their 30's; not kids by any means.

THAT'S why I've only lived w/GFs over the years.

AND that's how I know this. 😛

QFT.....

Lived with my best guy friend last year and it nearly killed our friendship. He's the worlds biggest slob. I always ended up cleaning cuz things would start to stink or whatnot. Worse part was he was recovering from leukemia and he wouldn't keep anything clean. Dont know how he didnt get a massive infection or something. This year me and my sis went in on a 2 bedroom apartment and it's all for the better. She's blind and she's cleaner and easier to live with than him. Plus she'll bake me cookies, cake, muffins all sorts of good stuff.

Living with women, be it siblings, g/fs or just friends is so much easier than living with guys.
 
Originally posted by: Art Vandelay
So my g/f from LA came over this Thursday, the first time we actually stayed together for more than a night... anyways, after 3.5 days of living together (in my apartment), I am certain marriage must suck. Just got back from dropping her off at the airport... maybe its best to have friends with benefits because BEING SINGLE IS BEING THE KING!

When you live by yourself, you're not used to having anyone challenge the way you do things, that's all. As you get more mature, you'll (hopefully) come to realize that there are other ways to do things that might be better than yours.
 
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: MichaelD
Originally posted by: JackRipper
Originally posted by: MichaelD
All people, men and women, either eventually become ready for cohabitation and marriage, or they don't. You either meet the right person (someone "right enough" with no "deal breaking faults") or you DON'T.

Up until recently, I hadn't met that woman.

As someone who has cohabitated 3 times for a total of about 4 years but never been married, I can say that I've been there, done that, seen most of it and got lots of nifty T-shirts.

I feel I'm finally ready for marriage. Yes; hell has frozen over and much to my surprise, pigs are indeed flying out of my @ss. :evil: :Q


ps
Male roommates are worse than living with a score of untrained monkeys. Guys are great to hang out with, not to live with. Most men are complete pigs, can't cook and consistently blow the rent and bill money on drugs, hookers and gambling. Ask me how I know this. :roll:

How u know this...


Circa 1996, I was renting a house with two other guys. We split the rent and the electric, phone and cable bills, as well as the yard keeping duties.

Roommate #1 - NEVER home, always at GFs. Would come over with GF 2-3 times per week with GF. Stay for a few hours, mess up bathroom and leave. He always had money for bills, but NEVER helped clean. Not one time.

Roommate #2 - ALWAYS home. Would bring home fast food every night and eat it in front of the TV. Over the course of the evening, he would slowly remove his clothing to prepare for shower/bed. He would leave his dirty drawers and socks on the couch, on the table and on the floor. Not to mention leaving empty bags and containers lying around. He would throw it away the next day...or whenever he got around to it. Always had money for food and booze but always late with the rent, never had money for phone bills. That's b/c he blew it all at the titty bars. :| He would help clean once in a blue moon.

BTW, these guys were both in their 30's; not kids by any means.

THAT'S why I've only lived w/GFs over the years.

AND that's how I know this. 😛

QFT.....

Lived with my best guy friend last year and it nearly killed our friendship. He's the worlds biggest slob. I always ended up cleaning cuz things would start to stink or whatnot. Worse part was he was recovering from leukemia and he wouldn't keep anything clean. Dont know how he didnt get a massive infection or something. This year me and my sis went in on a 2 bedroom apartment and it's all for the better. She's blind and she's cleaner and easier to live with than him. Plus she'll bake me cookies, cake, muffins all sorts of good stuff.

Living with women, be it siblings, g/fs or just friends is so much easier than living with guys.

Glad to hear your living conditions are good. 🙂

I have to ask, please. How does your sister bake? How does she know what ingredients she's using, how much and how hot the oven is? Just curious. It's amazing that she does those things!
 
I dunno about your opinion, Art. Marriage, when done right, is the most wonderful thing in the world. My wife r0x0rs my b0x0rs. Literally 😀
 
Originally posted by: MichaelD
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: MichaelD
Originally posted by: JackRipper
Originally posted by: MichaelD
All people, men and women, either eventually become ready for cohabitation and marriage, or they don't. You either meet the right person (someone "right enough" with no "deal breaking faults") or you DON'T.

Up until recently, I hadn't met that woman.

As someone who has cohabitated 3 times for a total of about 4 years but never been married, I can say that I've been there, done that, seen most of it and got lots of nifty T-shirts.

I feel I'm finally ready for marriage. Yes; hell has frozen over and much to my surprise, pigs are indeed flying out of my @ss. :evil: :Q


ps
Male roommates are worse than living with a score of untrained monkeys. Guys are great to hang out with, not to live with. Most men are complete pigs, can't cook and consistently blow the rent and bill money on drugs, hookers and gambling. Ask me how I know this. :roll:

How u know this...


Circa 1996, I was renting a house with two other guys. We split the rent and the electric, phone and cable bills, as well as the yard keeping duties.

Roommate #1 - NEVER home, always at GFs. Would come over with GF 2-3 times per week with GF. Stay for a few hours, mess up bathroom and leave. He always had money for bills, but NEVER helped clean. Not one time.

Roommate #2 - ALWAYS home. Would bring home fast food every night and eat it in front of the TV. Over the course of the evening, he would slowly remove his clothing to prepare for shower/bed. He would leave his dirty drawers and socks on the couch, on the table and on the floor. Not to mention leaving empty bags and containers lying around. He would throw it away the next day...or whenever he got around to it. Always had money for food and booze but always late with the rent, never had money for phone bills. That's b/c he blew it all at the titty bars. :| He would help clean once in a blue moon.

BTW, these guys were both in their 30's; not kids by any means.

THAT'S why I've only lived w/GFs over the years.

AND that's how I know this. 😛

QFT.....

Lived with my best guy friend last year and it nearly killed our friendship. He's the worlds biggest slob. I always ended up cleaning cuz things would start to stink or whatnot. Worse part was he was recovering from leukemia and he wouldn't keep anything clean. Dont know how he didnt get a massive infection or something. This year me and my sis went in on a 2 bedroom apartment and it's all for the better. She's blind and she's cleaner and easier to live with than him. Plus she'll bake me cookies, cake, muffins all sorts of good stuff.

Living with women, be it siblings, g/fs or just friends is so much easier than living with guys.

Glad to hear your living conditions are good. 🙂

I have to ask, please. How does your sister bake? How does she know what ingredients she's using, how much and how hot the oven is? Just curious. It's amazing that she does those things!

Well everything is labeled, either with a Braille labeler, such as the microwave, washer and dryer. Or with the oven we use just some plastic textured tape that I got from the hospital cut into small strips and put on the common points on the burner dials(Hi, Medium , Low) and for the oven put strips at the common oven temps(350, 400, 450).

Ingredient wise, she uses her nose or again things might have a braille label. She'll then download recipes from the internet to her laptop and have her screen reader read it back to her. If it's something like a boxed cake mix I'll just read her the directions from the box and she'll do the rest.

Just last night while I was at the hospital covering a couple hour shift she made oatmeal raisin w/ chocolate chip cookies. Fvcking amazing.
 
Originally posted by: Art Vandelay
So my g/f from LA came over this Thursday, the first time we actually stayed together for more than a night... anyways, after 3.5 days of living together (in my apartment), I am certain marriage must suck. Just got back from dropping her off at the airport... maybe its best to have friends with benefits because BEING SINGLE IS BEING THE KING!

insert "with the wrong person" in between marriage and must, and yeah, obviously.
 
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: MichaelD
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: MichaelD
Originally posted by: JackRipper
Originally posted by: MichaelD
All people, men and women, either eventually become ready for cohabitation and marriage, or they don't. You either meet the right person (someone "right enough" with no "deal breaking faults") or you DON'T.

Up until recently, I hadn't met that woman.

As someone who has cohabitated 3 times for a total of about 4 years but never been married, I can say that I've been there, done that, seen most of it and got lots of nifty T-shirts.

I feel I'm finally ready for marriage. Yes; hell has frozen over and much to my surprise, pigs are indeed flying out of my @ss. :evil: :Q


ps
Male roommates are worse than living with a score of untrained monkeys. Guys are great to hang out with, not to live with. Most men are complete pigs, can't cook and consistently blow the rent and bill money on drugs, hookers and gambling. Ask me how I know this. :roll:

How u know this...


Circa 1996, I was renting a house with two other guys. We split the rent and the electric, phone and cable bills, as well as the yard keeping duties.

Roommate #1 - NEVER home, always at GFs. Would come over with GF 2-3 times per week with GF. Stay for a few hours, mess up bathroom and leave. He always had money for bills, but NEVER helped clean. Not one time.

Roommate #2 - ALWAYS home. Would bring home fast food every night and eat it in front of the TV. Over the course of the evening, he would slowly remove his clothing to prepare for shower/bed. He would leave his dirty drawers and socks on the couch, on the table and on the floor. Not to mention leaving empty bags and containers lying around. He would throw it away the next day...or whenever he got around to it. Always had money for food and booze but always late with the rent, never had money for phone bills. That's b/c he blew it all at the titty bars. :| He would help clean once in a blue moon.

BTW, these guys were both in their 30's; not kids by any means.

THAT'S why I've only lived w/GFs over the years.

AND that's how I know this. 😛

QFT.....

Lived with my best guy friend last year and it nearly killed our friendship. He's the worlds biggest slob. I always ended up cleaning cuz things would start to stink or whatnot. Worse part was he was recovering from leukemia and he wouldn't keep anything clean. Dont know how he didnt get a massive infection or something. This year me and my sis went in on a 2 bedroom apartment and it's all for the better. She's blind and she's cleaner and easier to live with than him. Plus she'll bake me cookies, cake, muffins all sorts of good stuff.

Living with women, be it siblings, g/fs or just friends is so much easier than living with guys.

Glad to hear your living conditions are good. 🙂

I have to ask, please. How does your sister bake? How does she know what ingredients she's using, how much and how hot the oven is? Just curious. It's amazing that she does those things!

Well everything is labeled, either with a Braille labeler, such as the microwave, washer and dryer. Or with the oven we use just some plastic textured tape that I got from the hospital cut into small strips and put on the common points on the burner dials(Hi, Medium , Low) and for the oven put strips at the common oven temps(350, 400, 450).

Ingredient wise, she uses her nose or again things might have a braille label. She'll then download recipes from the internet to her laptop and have her screen reader read it back to her. If it's something like a boxed cake mix I'll just read her the directions from the box and she'll do the rest.

Just last night while I was at the hospital covering a couple hour shift she made oatmeal raisin w/ chocolate chip cookies. Fvcking amazing.

Amazing indeed, and you're a good brother for helping her. :thumbsup: Thanks for the info...I was very curious.
 
Originally posted by: Art Vandelay


That sound very American. I don't know whether it is the way you Americans are raised, or something else, but us Europeans are much more careful when we live with roomies. We are aware of our actions in common areas (such as kitchen, living room) and will leave it like we have found it 🙂 Sorry, but this is my honest opinion.... you Americans are pretty messy and don't have much respect for roomies 😛

Way to stereotype.... 😛

 
Someday, trying spending days and days with someone, and when they leave, you want more, and you feel 🙁 Too bad for you.
 
As I get older I realize more and more that I love my own space and my way of lfe.

Women have a way of causing drama where there is non. Nag way to much and are to critical. Living alone is so stress free and pleasant.

And lets not forget over 50 percent of marriages end. Think of the hell people endure years before the divorce and during it. Or if they dont divorce it's just a constant struggle all the time and a lot of work. People are to dependant on having a mate for their happiness. To me this seems like a weakness. But I relaize thats how we are created and a desire people will always have. Just remember it will always be a LOT of work and chances are it wont work out in the end anyway.
 
Wait until you're 40 and you realize that 'Friends with Benefits' just doesn't work anymore. You'll be one of the fat bald guys who oogle young girls while they turn away in disgust and you think you're too smooth.
 
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