Holocaust-Era Diary Surfaces in Netherlands

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Holocaust-Era Diary Surfaces in Netherlands
Jewish Teen Wrote Love Letters to Dutch Boyfriend
By TOBY STERLING, AP


AMSTERDAM, Netherlands (Oct. 19) - A Holocaust-era diary containing love letters written by a Jewish teen to her Dutch boyfriend while she was imprisoned in an internment camp in 1943 has turned up in the Netherlands.

Archivists in the Dutch city of Tilburg on Tuesday announced the rare discovery with parallels to the famed diary by Anne Frank. The journal was kept by 18-year-old Helga Deen during the final month of her detainment in a Dutch internment camp in April-July 1943.

"She kept the secret diary for her boyfriend in order to help him understand what she was experiencing," said Yvonne Weling of the Tilburg Regional Archive.

Deen, her brother, father and mother were shipped off to a Nazi concentration camp in Sobibor, Poland, that July. All four died at the camp.

Weling said the family of Deen's late boyfriend, Kees van den Berg, donated the diary to the archive earlier this year. Van den Berg had written back to Deen on some of the blank pages of the diary, concealed within a school notebook marked "Physics" and apparently transferred back and forth between the pair.

He kept the diary after Deen was deported, and saved it along with a lock of his girlfriend's hair.

In the diary, Deen recorded some of her day-to-day experiences for Van den Berg, but even more of her emotions, Weling said.

"Maybe this diary will be a disappointment to you because it doesn't contain facts," Deen wrote to Van den Berg. "But maybe you'll be glad that you find me in it: conflict, doubt, desperation, shyness, emptiness."

Among other entries, Deen's diary recorded the relief she felt after her family was once not selected for deportation - and the fear they might be chosen next time.

"We are homeless, countryless and we have to adjust ourselves to that way of life. What we have seen in these last months is indescribable, and for someone who hasn't been there, unimaginable," she wrote.

Her final entry was written on July 2, 1943. It contained a partially illegible phrase ending "... between the packages, because we're leaving soon," apparently referring to an attempt to smuggle the diary out of the internment camp in Vught for the last time.

Parts of the diary will be on display for one day Oct. 30 in Tilburg, and the archive is negotiating with museums to show it elsewhere.

Anne Frank wrote her famous diary while she and her German-Jewish family hid in an Amsterdam attic for 25 months.

They eventually were betrayed to the Nazis, and Anne died at age 15 of typhus at Bergen-Belsen, Germany in 1945, just weeks before the British army liberated the concentration camp.

Only her father survived the war, returning to collect Anne's notes and to publish them. "The Diary of Anne Frank" became the first popular book on the Holocaust, and she became a symbol of Jewish victimhood.

Last month, a fight broke out in Dutch parliament when it emerged that Frank never received an honorary citizenship - her family fled to Holland from Germany when she was 4, and they were never naturalized.

In the end, Justice Minister Piet Hein Donner denied Frank posthumous citizenship, saying that granting it wouldn't be fair to survivors whose request were denied.

Six million Jews were killed in the Holocaust, including some 100,000 from the Netherlands.


 

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I went through Anne Franke's house when I was in Amsterdam last month. Humbling experience...
 

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Originally posted by: Descartes
I went through Anne Franke's house when I was in Amsterdam last month. Humbling experience...

Wow. What else did you do, Descartes?
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Descartes
I went through Anne Franke's house when I was in Amsterdam last month. Humbling experience...

I bet that would be. Was this the house they hid in?
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: PanzerIV
:( Sad, sad times. Humanity at its worst.

but it also brought out some of the best we have to offer. There were Jewish sympathizers that risked everything to save as many as they could. people fighting for others when they couldn't.

 
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"Six million Jews were killed in the Holocaust, including some 100,000 from the Netherlands. "

So, what? When will Jewish activists stop running around whining about Holocaust?

So self centered, only think about themselves and now want the world to feel for them too.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
"Six million Jews were killed in the Holocaust, including some 100,000 from the Netherlands. "

So, what? When will Jewish activists stop running around whining about Holocaust?

So self centered, only think about themselves and now want the world to feel for them too.

heh wow.


talk about flamebait!
 

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Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
"Six million Jews were killed in the Holocaust, including some 100,000 from the Netherlands. "

So, what? When will Jewish activists stop running around whining about Holocaust?

So self centered, only think about themselves and now want the world to feel for them too.

I know you wanted a reaction to your trolling so I will give you one:


STFU asswipe. Maybe we'll be lucky and somebody will gas you or put you in an oven.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
"Six million Jews were killed in the Holocaust, including some 100,000 from the Netherlands. "

So, what? When will Jewish activists stop running around whining about Holocaust?

So self centered, only think about themselves and now want the world to feel for them too.

That was pointed out because the girl was Jewish.

As for the rest of your post, those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. There is a very active and growing movement in the world that actively denies the holocaust ever happened.
 

rh71

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Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
"Six million Jews were killed in the Holocaust, including some 100,000 from the Netherlands. "

So, what? When will Jewish activists stop running around whining about Holocaust?

So self centered, only think about themselves and now want the world to feel for them too.
I don't hear of any "Jewish activists"... why are you so testy ?
 
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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
"Six million Jews were killed in the Holocaust, including some 100,000 from the Netherlands. "

So, what? When will Jewish activists stop running around whining about Holocaust?

So self centered, only think about themselves and now want the world to feel for them too.

heh wow.


talk about flamebait!

Just another point to my argument - now it's considered blasphemy to even question the behavior of those Jewish activists.

 

Amused

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Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
"Six million Jews were killed in the Holocaust, including some 100,000 from the Netherlands. "

So, what? When will Jewish activists stop running around whining about Holocaust?

So self centered, only think about themselves and now want the world to feel for them too.

heh wow.


talk about flamebait!

Just another point to my argument - now it's considered blasphemy to even question the behavior of those Jewish activists.

I answered you calmly. Care to debate my point?
 

rh71

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
"Six million Jews were killed in the Holocaust, including some 100,000 from the Netherlands. "

So, what? When will Jewish activists stop running around whining about Holocaust?

So self centered, only think about themselves and now want the world to feel for them too.

That was pointed out because the girl was Jewish.

As for the rest of your post, those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. There is a very active and growing movement in the world that actively denies the holocaust ever happened.
Weren't you the same guy who said not to wallow in our past but to enjoy the present ? Yes... it was the Thanksgiving thread.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
"Six million Jews were killed in the Holocaust, including some 100,000 from the Netherlands. "

So, what? When will Jewish activists stop running around whining about Holocaust?

So self centered, only think about themselves and now want the world to feel for them too.

heh wow.


talk about flamebait!

Just another point to my argument - now it's considered blasphemy to even question the behavior of those Jewish activists.

no how you said it was flamebait. sorry if you do not see it.

as Amused have said there is a growing trend to even DENY that the holocaust happened. Something like this should never be forgotten.

 

Amused

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Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
"Six million Jews were killed in the Holocaust, including some 100,000 from the Netherlands. "

So, what? When will Jewish activists stop running around whining about Holocaust?

So self centered, only think about themselves and now want the world to feel for them too.

That was pointed out because the girl was Jewish.

As for the rest of your post, those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. There is a very active and growing movement in the world that actively denies the holocaust ever happened.
Weren't you the same guy who said not to wallow in our past but to enjoy the present ? Yes... it was the Thanksgiving thread.

Yes, it was. And the Jews are not wallowing in it. They are simply keeping the history from being hijacked by anti-semites with an agenda. The Jews have not let the history of the holocaust keep them down, In fact, they have thrived in spite of it.
 

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Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
"Six million Jews were killed in the Holocaust, including some 100,000 from the Netherlands. "

So, what? When will Jewish activists stop running around whining about Holocaust?

So self centered, only think about themselves and now want the world to feel for them too.

heh wow.


talk about flamebait!

Just another point to my argument - now it's considered blasphemy to even question the behavior of those Jewish activists.

Arent you the one who destroyed a perfectly good Subaru Impreza WRX?

 

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: PanzerIV
:( Sad, sad times. Humanity at its worst.

but it also brought out some of the best we have to offer. There were Jewish sympathizers that risked everything to save as many as they could. people fighting for others when they couldn't.

True. Our capacity for both extreme deprivity (the Holocaust, the Rape of Nanking) and extreme self-sacrifice for others' benefit is simply amazing.
 

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Hmmm...So all those corpses found at Nazi Extermination camps were...fakes? Clones?

Imprezawrxwagon, YOU explain how it DIDN'T happen. Explain the dissapearance of 6 million people. Explain the corpses, and the last, barely-living survivors liberated by allied forces.

Go on, we're waiting.
 

rh71

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
"Six million Jews were killed in the Holocaust, including some 100,000 from the Netherlands. "

So, what? When will Jewish activists stop running around whining about Holocaust?

So self centered, only think about themselves and now want the world to feel for them too.

That was pointed out because the girl was Jewish.

As for the rest of your post, those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. There is a very active and growing movement in the world that actively denies the holocaust ever happened.
Weren't you the same guy who said not to wallow in our past but to enjoy the present ? Yes... it was the Thanksgiving thread.

Yes, it was. And the Jews are not wallowing in it. They are simply keeping the history from being hijacked by anti-semites with an agenda. The Jews have not let the history of the holocaust keep them down, In fact, they have thrived in spite of it.
Curious, are you Jewish ?
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Horus
Hmmm...So all those corpses found at Nazi Extermination camps were...fakes? Clones?

Imprezawrxwagon, YOU explain how it DIDN'T happen. Explain the dissapearance of 6 million people. Explain the corpses, and the last, barely-living survivors liberated by allied forces.

Go on, we're waiting.

I don't think he has denied it happened.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
"Six million Jews were killed in the Holocaust, including some 100,000 from the Netherlands. "

So, what? When will Jewish activists stop running around whining about Holocaust?

So self centered, only think about themselves and now want the world to feel for them too.

That was pointed out because the girl was Jewish.

As for the rest of your post, those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. There is a very active and growing movement in the world that actively denies the holocaust ever happened.
Weren't you the same guy who said not to wallow in our past but to enjoy the present ? Yes... it was the Thanksgiving thread.

Yes, it was. And the Jews are not wallowing in it. They are simply keeping the history from being hijacked by anti-semites with an agenda. The Jews have not let the history of the holocaust keep them down, In fact, they have thrived in spite of it.
Curious, are you Jewish ?

Nope. I was raised Presbyterian as was my mother. My father was raised Lutheran. I am now non-religious and agnostic.