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BigJ

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Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

Same thing with breeders.

Can I ask what's up with the breeders thing lately?

You seem to be using it in a negative manner.

You are the first person ever to comment on me saying that I can recall.
And basically that's why I have been saying that. Waiting for someone to call me on that.
I didn't mean it negatively so much as to see who would comment on my decision to say breeder instead of heterosexuals or straights.

I pretty much asked why because of the restriction that AT has in place in using derogatory terms for homosexuals, even when not talking about homosexuals.

I was seeing if I could catch the Mods in another one of the long list of double standards that occur here.
 

Zysoclaplem

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Psst, know any good mechanics? The only thing I know how to do to my car (besides clean it) is change the oil, and I don't even do that. :eek:

Can't say that I do. Not in your area. Messing with cars can be easy if you have the tools, the manual, and time.
Also being a giant tight wad with your money helps.

 

Zysoclaplem

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

Same thing with breeders.

Can I ask what's up with the breeders thing lately?

You seem to be using it in a negative manner.

You are the first person ever to comment on me saying that I can recall.
And basically that's why I have been saying that. Waiting for someone to call me on that.
I didn't mean it negatively so much as to see who would comment on my decision to say breeder instead of heterosexuals or straights.

I pretty much asked why because of the restriction that AT has in place in using derogatory terms for homosexuals, even when not talking about homosexuals.

I was seeing if I could catch the Mods in another one of the long list of double standards that occur here.

Did you find the term offensive?
 

DVad3r

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: DVad3r
Originally posted by: BigJ
Also, your question is akin to asking "should we take all people with diseases out of society?"

Should we lock people with HIV or AIDS into quarantine cells for the rest of their life? How about the Flu? Or Herpes? Mono?

The flu is not life threatening, nor are most STD's. Your categorizing a serious virus that at the momemt can be somewhat controlled and prolong your life, but inevidently cause death. No one said to quarantine anyone into a cell, but a physically shared space like a gym perhaps should be sectioned. I work with a lot of HIV clients in my field, but there are certain precautions me and my fellow staff follow, and I'm alright with that, it's a controlled envioroment, a gym isent.

In this day and age, many people who contract the disease can lead long and healthy lives. It becomes a lifestyle change as opposed to taking over their lives.

You're trying to discriminate against HIV/AIDS infected individuals based on the belief that you can transfer the disease through sweat which is false; scientists have been unable to identify either HIV or AIDS in sweat.

So essentially, they'd have to share some other sort of body fluids, and in which case the possibility of it happening is the same as in a restaurant or a coffee shop.

Your missing the point again. There are remains of skin tissue and possibly even particles of flesh on the equipment, the HIV virus can be found in that. Also, take for example the person I know who got arressted today. He is a homosexual male obviously with serious issues, who is to say he worked out, looked at all the other males beside him, got horny, went to the wash room stall, masterbated, ejaculated, and came back out and continued working out spreading his semen onto everything. I see what your trying to say, I am not discriminating against HIV people, but I think I should have the right to know that they do carry it, especially in a physical enviroment, and be given the choice if I want to continue attending that facility or going somewhere else because I am not comfortable. Who's being ignorant now?
 

GeekDrew

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Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Psst, know any good mechanics? The only thing I know how to do to my car (besides clean it) is change the oil, and I don't even do that. :eek:

Can't say that I do. Not in your area. Messing with cars can be easy if you have the tools, the manual, and time.
Also being a giant tight wad with your money helps.

Patience. You forgot patience. Something that I have very little of, when working on vehicles. :p
 

BigJ

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

Same thing with breeders.

Can I ask what's up with the breeders thing lately?

You seem to be using it in a negative manner.

You are the first person ever to comment on me saying that I can recall.
And basically that's why I have been saying that. Waiting for someone to call me on that.
I didn't mean it negatively so much as to see who would comment on my decision to say breeder instead of heterosexuals or straights.

I pretty much asked why because of the restriction that AT has in place in using derogatory terms for homosexuals, even when not talking about homosexuals.

I was seeing if I could catch the Mods in another one of the long list of double standards that occur here.

Did you find the term offensive?

Nope. But just because I don't find it offensive doesn't mean you couldn't be using it offensively. It was also the first time I've heard someone call straights breeders, so I really didn't know what to think.
 

miri

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Dont they sell weightlifting gloves? If your really worried about it get those.
 

Zysoclaplem

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Originally posted by: GeekDrew
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Psst, know any good mechanics? The only thing I know how to do to my car (besides clean it) is change the oil, and I don't even do that. :eek:

Can't say that I do. Not in your area. Messing with cars can be easy if you have the tools, the manual, and time.
Also being a giant tight wad with your money helps.

Patience. You forgot patience. Something that I have very little of, when working on vehicles. :p

Oh I have no patience...lol.
I get pissed off something awful when I work on my car sometimes.
Patience isn't necessary, but's it's good to have.
 

BigJ

Lifer
Nov 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: DVad3r
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: DVad3r
Originally posted by: BigJ
Also, your question is akin to asking "should we take all people with diseases out of society?"

Should we lock people with HIV or AIDS into quarantine cells for the rest of their life? How about the Flu? Or Herpes? Mono?

The flu is not life threatening, nor are most STD's. Your categorizing a serious virus that at the momemt can be somewhat controlled and prolong your life, but inevidently cause death. No one said to quarantine anyone into a cell, but a physically shared space like a gym perhaps should be sectioned. I work with a lot of HIV clients in my field, but there are certain precautions me and my fellow staff follow, and I'm alright with that, it's a controlled envioroment, a gym isent.

In this day and age, many people who contract the disease can lead long and healthy lives. It becomes a lifestyle change as opposed to taking over their lives.

You're trying to discriminate against HIV/AIDS infected individuals based on the belief that you can transfer the disease through sweat which is false; scientists have been unable to identify either HIV or AIDS in sweat.

So essentially, they'd have to share some other sort of body fluids, and in which case the possibility of it happening is the same as in a restaurant or a coffee shop.

Your missing the point again. There are remains of skin tissue and possibly even particles of flesh on the equipment, the HIV virus can be found in that. Also, take for example the person I know who got arressted today. He is a homosexual male obviously with serious issues, who is to say he worked out, looked at all the other males beside him, got horny, went to the wash room stall, masterbated, ejaculated, and came back out and continued working out spreading his semen onto everything. I see what your trying to say, I am not discriminating against HIV people, but I think I should have the right to know that they do carry it, especially in a physical enviroment, and be given the choice if I want to continue attending that facility or going somewhere else because I am not comfortable. Who's being ignorant now?

Care to show me a link that shows that HIV inhabits skin cells?

And you're also being ridiculous with your scenarios. What if some depressed member of the gym brings in a gun and shoots up the whole place!?!?! Maybe we should get full mental evaluations of every person in the gym we belong to.

And read your OP. You don't nearly suggest that you should be notified of the fact that a member of your gym may be HIV positive. You said:

I think I am going to get HIV tested, I find the fact very disturbing that HIV people are allowed to join public gyms.

That's quite a different statement.
 

djheater

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

Same thing with breeders.

Can I ask what's up with the breeders thing lately?

You seem to be using it in a negative manner.

You are the first person ever to comment on me saying that I can recall.
And basically that's why I have been saying that. Waiting for someone to call me on that.
I didn't mean it negatively so much as to see who would comment on my decision to say breeder instead of heterosexuals or straights.

I pretty much asked why because of the restriction that AT has in place in using derogatory terms for homosexuals, even when not talking about homosexuals.

I was seeing if I could catch the Mods in another one of the long list of double standards that occur here.

Did you find the term offensive?

I had never thought of it before, but straights would be a veiled reference toward a homosexual lifestyle as being skewed... hmmm...
Breeders is negative when assessed critically, but is not generally intended so. Only the subtext makes it negative, and only circuitously. It is not denotatively negative, but is negative in the final analysis.
 

dawnbug

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Originally posted by: DVad3r
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: DVad3r
Originally posted by: BigJ
Also, your question is akin to asking "should we take all people with diseases out of society?"

Should we lock people with HIV or AIDS into quarantine cells for the rest of their life? How about the Flu? Or Herpes? Mono?

The flu is not life threatening, nor are most STD's. Your categorizing a serious virus that at the momemt can be somewhat controlled and prolong your life, but inevidently cause death. No one said to quarantine anyone into a cell, but a physically shared space like a gym perhaps should be sectioned. I work with a lot of HIV clients in my field, but there are certain precautions me and my fellow staff follow, and I'm alright with that, it's a controlled envioroment, a gym isent.

In this day and age, many people who contract the disease can lead long and healthy lives. It becomes a lifestyle change as opposed to taking over their lives.

You're trying to discriminate against HIV/AIDS infected individuals based on the belief that you can transfer the disease through sweat which is false; scientists have been unable to identify either HIV or AIDS in sweat.

So essentially, they'd have to share some other sort of body fluids, and in which case the possibility of it happening is the same as in a restaurant or a coffee shop.

Your missing the point again. There are remains of skin tissue and possibly even particles of flesh on the equipment, the HIV virus can be found in that. Also, take for example the person I know who got arressted today. He is a homosexual male obviously with serious issues, who is to say he worked out, looked at all the other males beside him, got horny, went to the wash room stall, masterbated, ejaculated, and came back out and continued working out spreading his semen onto everything. I see what your trying to say, I am not discriminating against HIV people, but I think I should have the right to know that they do carry it, especially in a physical enviroment, and be given the choice if I want to continue attending that facility or going somewhere else because I am not comfortable. Who's being ignorant now?

Dude, read the thing I posted from the CDC. You can't get HIV from coming in contact with his skin. And do you have proof that he ejaculated at your gym? Even if he did, unless you had an open wound that the semen came in contact with, you're still perfectly perfectly safe.

Your sex ed teacher was wrong. I had to take a health class for teachers for my major (elementary education) and we spent the equivalent of a week of lectures on HIV and STDs, and we learned about all of the myths. Spit, sweat and skin cells won't give you HIV, man. Go look at the website I posted the link to before.
 

Zysoclaplem

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

Same thing with breeders.

Can I ask what's up with the breeders thing lately?

You seem to be using it in a negative manner.

You are the first person ever to comment on me saying that I can recall.
And basically that's why I have been saying that. Waiting for someone to call me on that.
I didn't mean it negatively so much as to see who would comment on my decision to say breeder instead of heterosexuals or straights.

I pretty much asked why because of the restriction that AT has in place in using derogatory terms for homosexuals, even when not talking about homosexuals.

I was seeing if I could catch the Mods in another one of the long list of double standards that occur here.

Did you find the term offensive?

Nope. But just because I don't find it offensive doesn't mean you couldn't be using it offensively. It was also the first time I've heard someone call straights breeders, so I really didn't know what to think.

Perhaps it's the evil gay in me. I actually call heterosexual people that sometimes.
It's not so much to put them down, as it's not offensive really. It's more or less to strip them of such a normal description. Straight, or heterosexual. That's it.
But homosexuals are homos, gays, fags, faggots, fairies, queers, etc..etc..
 

godmare

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Originally posted by: DVad3r
Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: DVad3r
I think I am going to get HIV tested, I find the fact very disturbing that HIV people are allowed to join public gyms. I know I've shared machines and weights with him and doing heavy bench press could cause the bar to dig into your hands, whether or not I could catch HIV from that I don't know.

You might want to get an IQ test too.

How so? You do 3-4 plates a side bench, with a course bar. It digs into your skin, taking the old skin off and penetrating into the new one. I have huge callisters on my hands from lifting weights. Your telling me that a residue of human tissue is not a risk factor? Not to mention sweat? I know the chances are very slim for the actual virus to be there, but it is not entirely ruled out and freak accidents do happen.

wtf is a callister, IQ man?

 

Zysoclaplem

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Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
The majority of people who transmit HIV and AIDS are homosexual black males, or so I have been told.

Am I really seeing you accuse black gays of being the 'cause' of Aids, or ami drunk?

You must be drunk. No "Abort Black Babies to prevent HIV/AIDs" here.
I'm saying that Black Homosexual Males make up the majority of those who transmit HIV/AIDS.

Come now, the implication of your original post taken in context is, "BLACK gays propagate aids"... straights are going to see that as divisive, clearly.

I don't think you meant any harm by it... and I'm probably just fvcked up from an intense day in the health care community... but damn, that's how it came off...

The question that comes to mind is: "Do you consider Black Gays a seperate and distinct subgroup of gay culture".

I don't care what "straights" see.
Black Homosexual Males in a good portion of cases are on the "down low" and are a major transmitter of the HIV/AIDS virus.
If you are a homosexual male having promiscuous sex with other males and have not been tested for HIV/AIDS or other VD, you should be shot.
Same thing with breeders.


Agreed.

At this point I'd like to offer terms, and am willing to accept decorating advice in exchange for changing your brakes.

I can change my own brakes and well as do everything for my car. Out of all 5 cars I have had, I have never taken one to a mechanic. I do it all myself. And I do it fabulously.

/raises white flag

:)
 

DVad3r

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Jan 3, 2005
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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: DVad3r
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: DVad3r
Originally posted by: BigJ
Also, your question is akin to asking "should we take all people with diseases out of society?"

Should we lock people with HIV or AIDS into quarantine cells for the rest of their life? How about the Flu? Or Herpes? Mono?

The flu is not life threatening, nor are most STD's. Your categorizing a serious virus that at the momemt can be somewhat controlled and prolong your life, but inevidently cause death. No one said to quarantine anyone into a cell, but a physically shared space like a gym perhaps should be sectioned. I work with a lot of HIV clients in my field, but there are certain precautions me and my fellow staff follow, and I'm alright with that, it's a controlled envioroment, a gym isent.

In this day and age, many people who contract the disease can lead long and healthy lives. It becomes a lifestyle change as opposed to taking over their lives.

You're trying to discriminate against HIV/AIDS infected individuals based on the belief that you can transfer the disease through sweat which is false; scientists have been unable to identify either HIV or AIDS in sweat.

So essentially, they'd have to share some other sort of body fluids, and in which case the possibility of it happening is the same as in a restaurant or a coffee shop.

Your missing the point again. There are remains of skin tissue and possibly even particles of flesh on the equipment, the HIV virus can be found in that. Also, take for example the person I know who got arressted today. He is a homosexual male obviously with serious issues, who is to say he worked out, looked at all the other males beside him, got horny, went to the wash room stall, masterbated, ejaculated, and came back out and continued working out spreading his semen onto everything. I see what your trying to say, I am not discriminating against HIV people, but I think I should have the right to know that they do carry it, especially in a physical enviroment, and be given the choice if I want to continue attending that facility or going somewhere else because I am not comfortable. Who's being ignorant now?

Care to show me a link that shows that HIV inhabits skin cells?

And you're also being ridiculous with your scenarios. What if some depressed member of the gym brings in a gun and shoots up the whole place!?!?! Maybe we should get full mental evaluations of every person in the gym we belong to.

And read your OP. You don't nearly suggest that you should be notified of the fact that a member of your gym may be HIV positive. You said:

I think I am going to get HIV tested, I find the fact very disturbing that HIV people are allowed to join public gyms.

That's quite a different statement.

Am I being ridiculous, I just told you guys a totally normal person turned out be a serial infector who ruined several peoples lives. Unrealistic scenarios? Please. I think I'm done with this thread, just wanted to share my thoughts and give people food for thought, but I guess there is just way too much retarded breakdowns here on OT.
 

djheater

Lifer
Mar 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: DVad3r
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: DVad3r
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: DVad3r
Originally posted by: BigJ
Also, your question is akin to asking "should we take all people with diseases out of society?"

Should we lock people with HIV or AIDS into quarantine cells for the rest of their life? How about the Flu? Or Herpes? Mono?

The flu is not life threatening, nor are most STD's. Your categorizing a serious virus that at the momemt can be somewhat controlled and prolong your life, but inevidently cause death. No one said to quarantine anyone into a cell, but a physically shared space like a gym perhaps should be sectioned. I work with a lot of HIV clients in my field, but there are certain precautions me and my fellow staff follow, and I'm alright with that, it's a controlled envioroment, a gym isent.

In this day and age, many people who contract the disease can lead long and healthy lives. It becomes a lifestyle change as opposed to taking over their lives.

You're trying to discriminate against HIV/AIDS infected individuals based on the belief that you can transfer the disease through sweat which is false; scientists have been unable to identify either HIV or AIDS in sweat.

So essentially, they'd have to share some other sort of body fluids, and in which case the possibility of it happening is the same as in a restaurant or a coffee shop.

Your missing the point again. There are remains of skin tissue and possibly even particles of flesh on the equipment, the HIV virus can be found in that. Also, take for example the person I know who got arressted today. He is a homosexual male obviously with serious issues, who is to say he worked out, looked at all the other males beside him, got horny, went to the wash room stall, masterbated, ejaculated, and came back out and continued working out spreading his semen onto everything. I see what your trying to say, I am not discriminating against HIV people, but I think I should have the right to know that they do carry it, especially in a physical enviroment, and be given the choice if I want to continue attending that facility or going somewhere else because I am not comfortable. Who's being ignorant now?

Care to show me a link that shows that HIV inhabits skin cells?

And you're also being ridiculous with your scenarios. What if some depressed member of the gym brings in a gun and shoots up the whole place!?!?! Maybe we should get full mental evaluations of every person in the gym we belong to.

And read your OP. You don't nearly suggest that you should be notified of the fact that a member of your gym may be HIV positive. You said:

I think I am going to get HIV tested, I find the fact very disturbing that HIV people are allowed to join public gyms.

That's quite a different statement.

Am I being ridiculous, I just told you guys a totally normal person turned out be a serial infector who ruined several peoples lives. Unrealistic scenarios? Please. I think I'm done with this thread, just wanted to share my thoughts and give people food for thought, but I guess there is just way too much retarded breakdowns here on OT.

Hey... go fvck yourself...

Look, we're all REALLY concerned that a fvcking nutjob invaded your placid existence, but the irrational freaking out about his being gay doesn't fly.
 

BigJ

Lifer
Nov 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: DVad3r
Originally posted by: BigJ

Care to show me a link that shows that HIV inhabits skin cells?

And you're also being ridiculous with your scenarios. What if some depressed member of the gym brings in a gun and shoots up the whole place!?!?! Maybe we should get full mental evaluations of every person in the gym we belong to.

And read your OP. You don't nearly suggest that you should be notified of the fact that a member of your gym may be HIV positive. You said:

I think I am going to get HIV tested, I find the fact very disturbing that HIV people are allowed to join public gyms.

That's quite a different statement.

Am I being ridiculous, I just told you guys a totally normal person turned out be a serial infector who ruined several peoples lives. Unrealistic scenarios? Please. I think I'm done with this thread, just wanted to share my thoughts and give people food for thought, but I guess there is just way too much retarded breakdowns here on OT.

You have absolutely no idea as to how HIV and AIDS is transmitted. Care to show that link where skin cells contain the HIV virus?

Also, that is a SINGLE person. Because of a single incident, you want to regulate the behavior of tens of thousands of gyms across the country?

Face it, you're scared sh!tless of a topic you have no undestanding of.
 

DVad3r

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Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: DVad3r
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: DVad3r
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: DVad3r
Originally posted by: BigJ
Also, your question is akin to asking "should we take all people with diseases out of society?"

Should we lock people with HIV or AIDS into quarantine cells for the rest of their life? How about the Flu? Or Herpes? Mono?

The flu is not life threatening, nor are most STD's. Your categorizing a serious virus that at the momemt can be somewhat controlled and prolong your life, but inevidently cause death. No one said to quarantine anyone into a cell, but a physically shared space like a gym perhaps should be sectioned. I work with a lot of HIV clients in my field, but there are certain precautions me and my fellow staff follow, and I'm alright with that, it's a controlled envioroment, a gym isent.

In this day and age, many people who contract the disease can lead long and healthy lives. It becomes a lifestyle change as opposed to taking over their lives.

You're trying to discriminate against HIV/AIDS infected individuals based on the belief that you can transfer the disease through sweat which is false; scientists have been unable to identify either HIV or AIDS in sweat.

So essentially, they'd have to share some other sort of body fluids, and in which case the possibility of it happening is the same as in a restaurant or a coffee shop.

Your missing the point again. There are remains of skin tissue and possibly even particles of flesh on the equipment, the HIV virus can be found in that. Also, take for example the person I know who got arressted today. He is a homosexual male obviously with serious issues, who is to say he worked out, looked at all the other males beside him, got horny, went to the wash room stall, masterbated, ejaculated, and came back out and continued working out spreading his semen onto everything. I see what your trying to say, I am not discriminating against HIV people, but I think I should have the right to know that they do carry it, especially in a physical enviroment, and be given the choice if I want to continue attending that facility or going somewhere else because I am not comfortable. Who's being ignorant now?

Care to show me a link that shows that HIV inhabits skin cells?

And you're also being ridiculous with your scenarios. What if some depressed member of the gym brings in a gun and shoots up the whole place!?!?! Maybe we should get full mental evaluations of every person in the gym we belong to.

And read your OP. You don't nearly suggest that you should be notified of the fact that a member of your gym may be HIV positive. You said:

I think I am going to get HIV tested, I find the fact very disturbing that HIV people are allowed to join public gyms.

That's quite a different statement.

Am I being ridiculous, I just told you guys a totally normal person turned out be a serial infector who ruined several peoples lives. Unrealistic scenarios? Please. I think I'm done with this thread, just wanted to share my thoughts and give people food for thought, but I guess there is just way too much retarded breakdowns here on OT.

Hey... go fvck yourself...

Look, we're all REALLY concerned that a fvcking nutjob invaded your placid existence, but the irrational freaking out about his being gay doesn't fly.

Are you stupid? Where did I mention anything about his gayness, you must be referring to other homo phobics in this thread, because I'm certainly not.
 

dawnbug

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Originally posted by: DVad3r
Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: DVad3r
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: DVad3r
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: DVad3r
Originally posted by: BigJ
Also, your question is akin to asking "should we take all people with diseases out of society?"

Should we lock people with HIV or AIDS into quarantine cells for the rest of their life? How about the Flu? Or Herpes? Mono?

The flu is not life threatening, nor are most STD's. Your categorizing a serious virus that at the momemt can be somewhat controlled and prolong your life, but inevidently cause death. No one said to quarantine anyone into a cell, but a physically shared space like a gym perhaps should be sectioned. I work with a lot of HIV clients in my field, but there are certain precautions me and my fellow staff follow, and I'm alright with that, it's a controlled envioroment, a gym isent.

In this day and age, many people who contract the disease can lead long and healthy lives. It becomes a lifestyle change as opposed to taking over their lives.

You're trying to discriminate against HIV/AIDS infected individuals based on the belief that you can transfer the disease through sweat which is false; scientists have been unable to identify either HIV or AIDS in sweat.

So essentially, they'd have to share some other sort of body fluids, and in which case the possibility of it happening is the same as in a restaurant or a coffee shop.

Your missing the point again. There are remains of skin tissue and possibly even particles of flesh on the equipment, the HIV virus can be found in that. Also, take for example the person I know who got arressted today. He is a homosexual male obviously with serious issues, who is to say he worked out, looked at all the other males beside him, got horny, went to the wash room stall, masterbated, ejaculated, and came back out and continued working out spreading his semen onto everything. I see what your trying to say, I am not discriminating against HIV people, but I think I should have the right to know that they do carry it, especially in a physical enviroment, and be given the choice if I want to continue attending that facility or going somewhere else because I am not comfortable. Who's being ignorant now?

Care to show me a link that shows that HIV inhabits skin cells?

And you're also being ridiculous with your scenarios. What if some depressed member of the gym brings in a gun and shoots up the whole place!?!?! Maybe we should get full mental evaluations of every person in the gym we belong to.

And read your OP. You don't nearly suggest that you should be notified of the fact that a member of your gym may be HIV positive. You said:

I think I am going to get HIV tested, I find the fact very disturbing that HIV people are allowed to join public gyms.

That's quite a different statement.

Am I being ridiculous, I just told you guys a totally normal person turned out be a serial infector who ruined several peoples lives. Unrealistic scenarios? Please. I think I'm done with this thread, just wanted to share my thoughts and give people food for thought, but I guess there is just way too much retarded breakdowns here on OT.

Hey... go fvck yourself...

Look, we're all REALLY concerned that a fvcking nutjob invaded your placid existence, but the irrational freaking out about his being gay doesn't fly.

Are you stupid? Where did I mention anything about his gayness, you must be referring to other homo phobics in this thread, because I'm certainly not.

Perhaps the reason that people feel that you have a problem with his being gay is that you proposed to ban people with HIV from gyms... HIV sometimes takes months (years even? I don't remember for sure) to show up positive on a test. If a gym started to ban people with HIV (the majority of whom are gay), what would stop them from banning gays altogether, since homosexuals are the ones who are usually infected with the virus. . . just speculation. Forgive me if I'm wrong.
 

sygyzy

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Hey guys, give the OP a break. This GAY BLACK man was seemingly "normal" or so we thought. He turned out to be a disease spreading MANIAC. We all know what we were taught in school, in the mandatory class "How to tell if someone is a criminal just by looking at them 101" but even the best of us gets fooled once in a while.
 

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Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
The majority of people who transmit HIV and AIDS are homosexual black males, or so I have been told.



I swear If I ever see you real life I am going to slap the sh&t out of you!
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: Darkstar757
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
The majority of people who transmit HIV and AIDS are homosexual black males, or so I have been told.



I swear If I ever see you real life I am going to slap the sh&t out of you!

Because he's quoting a known statistic relating to HIV?
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
To all calling him a homophobic witch... Would you kiss an HIV+ person?

On the cheek? Sure.

Mouth to mouth? I'd rather not just to be safe.

That's because HIV is actually contained in the saliva as opposed to sweat or skin cells.
 

sygyzy

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Originally posted by: Darkstar757
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
The majority of people who transmit HIV and AIDS are homosexual black males, or so I have been told.



I swear If I ever see you real life I am going to slap the sh&t out of you!

I like how you wear you'll slap him, but not beat him up or kick his #$#$. HAHAH slappity slap slap.