Historically least prepared for college high school class in history...

[Zorba]

Would you want to teach in this nation where you're paid poverty wage, expected to work off the clock, have to teach to standardized tests, expected to spend your own money on class materials, have to babysit problem children acting out because they live in a nation that threw their families under the bus just like it threw you under, where you have a loud minority of parents accusing you of being a groomer or a woke propagandist, where you have to do active shooter drills because this nation has bred generations of hopeless kids with nothing to lose, etc? Yeah no shit no one wants to go into education.

You forgot going into massive debt to be get the degree that allows you to make those shitty wages.

 

[fskimospy]

This report would indicate the attrition rate for NYC teachers increased from 8% in 2019-2020 to 12% in 2022-2023.

https://www.ibo.nyc.ny.us/iboreports/roll-call-recent-trends-in-teacher-retention-and-hiring-in-new-york-city-public-schools-september-2023.pdf

IBO doesn’t know what it’s talking about.

For example they count ‘attrition’ as someone who was active the prior year but on leave to have a baby the following year as of their settling date, even if they returned a month later. I tried to tell them this was a dumb way of doing things but they wouldn’t listen. Also, the ‘2022-2023’ is basically a mislabeling of 2021-2022, as per the standard methodology that number couldn’t even be calculated yet. Finally, they count those teachers on leave who return to active service as ‘new hires’, which is similarly ludicrous.

I can say without exaggeration that I personally am the authority on teacher retention statistics for New York City Public Schools. I have constant calls with IBO trying to teach them how to understand our data, education they often do not take.

 

[fskimospy]

Also the attrition rate did go up for 2021-2022, but that should be expected as it was way down in the pandemic years. I think the most likely interpretation is pent up attrition for people who would have otherwise quit or retired but didn’t due to uncertainty.

 

[Exterous]

IBO doesn’t know what it’s talking about.

For example they count ‘attrition’ as someone who was active the prior year but on leave to have a baby the following year as of their settling date, even if they returned a month later. I tried to tell them this was a dumb way of doing things but they wouldn’t listen. Also, the ‘2022-2023’ is basically a mislabeling of 2021-2022, as per the standard methodology that number couldn’t even be calculated yet. Finally, they count those teachers on leave who return to active service as ‘new hires’, which is similarly ludicrous.

I can say without exaggeration that I personally am the authority on teacher retention statistics for New York City Public Schools. I have constant calls with IBO trying to teach them how to understand our data, education they often do not take.

I mean you have to realize how that looks right? Don't trust this formal report trust me because I, a random person on the internet, said so. I realize that comes up a lot in general conversation, including my comments about University admissions, but its a bit awkward adjacent a source

 

[fskimospy]

I mean you have to realize how that looks right? Don't trust this formal report trust me because I, a random person on the internet, said so. I realize that comes up a lot in general conversation, including my comments about University admissions, but its a bit awkward adjacent a source

You can think whatever you want, but I am right and those people are incompetents and they base all of this literally on asking me what the data means.

Me personally.

 

[fskimospy]

I do get how there is no way to verify or talk against some idiot on the internet claiming authority but really, I’m not full of shit. If there is one place I can claim genuine authority it is public education in NYC.