Hillary's JFK comment vs Huckabee's NRA comment

[sportage]

Huckabee at the NRA

Ok, explain why Hillary's comment is so awful and should end her campaign, vs Huckabee's comment suggestion of KKK, blacks and voilence was candy coated by the press???

Hillary's comment was simply a statement on campaigns from extremes A to Z.
Huckabee's comment shoud have ENDED his political career for good!!!!

The media goes on and on about Hillary. Nothing further on Huckabee.
You be the judge...

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: sportage
Huckabee at the NRA

Ok, explain why Hillary's comment is so awful and should end her campaign, vs Huckabee's comment suggestion of KKK, blacks and voilence was candy coated by the press???

Hillary's comment was simply a statement on campaigns from extremes A to Z.
Huckabee's comment shoud have ENDED his political career for good!!!!

The media goes on and on about Hillary. Nothing further on Huckabee.
You be the judge...

Urr, where's Huckabee's campaign now?

 

[Painman]

Well, partly because folks don't put it past the GOP to joke about shooting n*****s, but hearing a Dem invoke that possibility while talking about another Dem - different kettle of fish.

Huckabee is already irrelevant; a footnote in the political history books. Hillary isn't (though she likely will be soon).

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: sportage
Huckabee at the NRA

Ok, explain why Hillary's comment is so awful and should end her campaign, vs Huckabee's comment suggestion of KKK, blacks and voilence was candy coated by the press???

Hillary's comment was simply a statement on campaigns from extremes A to Z.
Huckabee's comment shoud have ENDED his political career for good!!!!

The media goes on and on about Hillary. Nothing further on Huckabee.
You be the judge...

Urr, where's Huckabee's campaign now?

Urr, that has nothing to do with the thread...

 

[sportage]

Huckabee is said to be on the VERY short list as VP's for McCain.
Huckabee certainally could bring the south online and the GW Bush fundies online
and give Obama a run for his money in many states not in play otherwise.
Huckabee is still very much a player. And after his NRA comment, he should be
held to the same fire as Hillary, whose JKF comment is not nearly comparable
to Huckabee's 1950's minded violence against a black man suggestion.

The media Sunday talk shows are going to be all Hillary and JFK this weekend.
I think it would be well worth the fillup @ $4 a gal to get away this Holiday weekend...
Again, Tim Russert and his talking heads will try to mold the presidential race,
making something out of nothing while ignoring the like of Huckabee's.

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: sportage
Huckabee at the NRA

Ok, explain why Hillary's comment is so awful and should end her campaign, vs Huckabee's comment suggestion of KKK, blacks and voilence was candy coated by the press???

Hillary's comment was simply a statement on campaigns from extremes A to Z.
Huckabee's comment shoud have ENDED his political career for good!!!!

The media goes on and on about Hillary. Nothing further on Huckabee.
You be the judge...

Urr, where's Huckabee's campaign now?

Urr, that has nothing to do with the thread...

What are you talking about? The OP pointed out media bias and then compared someone who's under a microscope (Clinton) to someone who has nearly been forgotten (Huckabee). If you were talking about McCain making that comment, then yes, he'd have a point, but he's not. He gets a quick blurb and is forgotten fairly quickly. Don't be ridiculous Craig.

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: sportage
Huckabee is said to be on the VERY short list as VP's for McCain.
Huckabee certainally could bring the south online and the GW Bush fundies online
and give Obama a run for his money in many states not in play otherwise.
Huckabee is still very much a player. And after his NRA comment, he should be
held to the same fire as Hillary, whose JKF comment is not nearly comparable
to Huckabee's 1950's minded violence against a black man suggestion.

The media Sunday talk shows are going to be all Hillary and JFK this weekend.
I think it would be well worth the fillup @ $4 a gal to get away this Holiday weekend...
Again, Tim Russert and his talking heads will try to mold the presidential race,
making something out of nothing while ignoring the like of Huckabee's.

There's a tight race going on between Obama and Clinton. The two are under the media microscope. When the Democratic nomination is complete then you'll see more scrutiny of potential VP candidates. This is a case where sex is not playing into media bias but interest. The interest of the public and thus the media is on the two Democratic candidates which is why there's a lack of focus on others, especially others who have fallen out of media attention for how many months now?

 

[pstylesss]

Uhm... Huckabee's NRA comment had zero to do with Obama being black. YOU PEOPLE have issues. You're blowing both things out of proportion. Huckabee was just taking a jab at the front runner, Clinton would have been the one diving from the gun if she was in Obama's position. Clinton was just explaining why she shouldn't drop out -- you never know what will happen.

And OP, his comment doesn't even come close to any KKK type comment. Give me a break. This election season is gonna be grand, anytime anyone takes a jab at Obama, joking or serious, or attacks his position will be labeled as a racist, bigot, or klan member. This will be a fun one. Go ahead and keep on pulling the race card and see how far it gets you.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: ZeroIQ
Uhm... Huckabee's NRA comment had zero to do with Obama being black. YOU PEOPLE have issues. You're blowing both things out of proportion. Huckabee was just taking a jab at the front runner, Clinton would have been the one diving from the gun if she was in Obama's position. Clinton was just explaining why she shouldn't drop out -- you never know what will happen.

And OP, his comment doesn't even come close to any KKK type comment. Give me a break. This election season is gonna be grand, anytime anyone takes a jab at Obama, joking or serious, or attacks his position will be labeled as a racist, bigot, or klan member. This will be a fun one. Go ahead and keep on pulling the race card and see how far it gets you.

Unfortunately I agree. Context is important here. Huckabee was in front of the NRA. He hears a bang and makes a comment about the less gun friendly candidate ducking who happens to be black. As a result, we have Huckabee being tattooed with "KKK".

Utter nonsense. I support Obama, but I'm not for clubbing the opposition with such tactics. FWIW I also think the significance of Hillary's comment was way overblown.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: sportage
Huckabee at the NRA

Ok, explain why Hillary's comment is so awful and should end her campaign, vs Huckabee's comment suggestion of KKK, blacks and voilence was candy coated by the press???

Hillary's comment was simply a statement on campaigns from extremes A to Z.
Huckabee's comment shoud have ENDED his political career for good!!!!

The media goes on and on about Hillary. Nothing further on Huckabee.
You be the judge...

Urr, where's Huckabee's campaign now?

Urr, that has nothing to do with the thread...

What are you talking about? The OP pointed out media bias and then compared someone who's under a microscope (Clinton) to someone who has nearly been forgotten (Huckabee). If you were talking about McCain making that comment, then yes, he'd have a point, but he's not. He gets a quick blurb and is forgotten fairly quickly. Don't be ridiculous Craig.

Wasn't Huckabee one of the main GOP candidates at the time of the incident? It's not as if he said it today when he's not a candidate.

 

[gorobei]

first: it's RFK that they're talking about, not JFK.

-Huckabee's comment was a badly fumbled joke where he was desperately searching for a setup for his punchline about Obama tripping over a chair. It was a stupid thing to say but the context was clearly understood as a failed attempt at humor. He should suffer some sort of fallout for it if he is in contention for the VP slot, if only as an example of the 'foot in mouth' liability he represents.

-Clinton's comment is different as it wasn't a joke and it can be interpreted as an insight as to what she's hoping for in the nomination race. As almost all the numbers are against her, the only hope she has of getting the nomination is if something disastrous happens to Obama. While polite folks might offer the possibility of a legal scandal, medical issue, drug history, or some "cultural values" skeleton in the closet, she's the only one to tread into the assassination scenario. She's touched on it a few times before without specifically mentioning the "killing" of RFK.

-She's getting lambasted by the media because despite her assertions that there are people who have threatened her campaign because they won't tolerate a female president, Obama received actual death threats the day after declaring his candidacy. While most people understand that she wasn't calling for someone to go all John Hinckley Jr. on him, there are always going to be disturbed individuals who can be set off by these sorts of comments. The guy who stabbed Monica Seles during a match was doing it because he wanted Steffi Graf to be the WTA #1. Someone running for the highest office in the land should be savvy enough to know when not to mention RFK's assassination during a campaign. As in NEVER.

-She's being made fun of because if her only chance of being president is a bolt of lightning coming down and striking Obama, then the validity of her candidacy is seriously questionable. It would be like a CEO cooking the books, getting in deep with loan sharks, perjuring himself during the Grand Jury investigation into his company's problems and relying on a lottery ticket to get enough money to bribe everyone to make it go away. Yeah it could happen, but you wouldn't want to rely on it.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: sportage
Huckabee at the NRA

Ok, explain why Hillary's comment is so awful and should end her campaign, vs Huckabee's comment suggestion of KKK, blacks and voilence was candy coated by the press???

Hillary's comment was simply a statement on campaigns from extremes A to Z.
Huckabee's comment shoud have ENDED his political career for good!!!!

The media goes on and on about Hillary. Nothing further on Huckabee.
You be the judge...

Urr, where's Huckabee's campaign now?

Urr, that has nothing to do with the thread...

What are you talking about? The OP pointed out media bias and then compared someone who's under a microscope (Clinton) to someone who has nearly been forgotten (Huckabee). If you were talking about McCain making that comment, then yes, he'd have a point, but he's not. He gets a quick blurb and is forgotten fairly quickly. Don't be ridiculous Craig.

Wasn't Huckabee one of the main GOP candidates at the time of the incident? It's not as if he said it today when he's not a candidate.

Maybe the incident wasn't reported too much because almost everyone understood it wasn't an incident. I wasn't a Huckabee fan, but he did nothing wrong.

 

[Rio Rebel]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: sportage
Huckabee at the NRA

Ok, explain why Hillary's comment is so awful and should end her campaign, vs Huckabee's comment suggestion of KKK, blacks and voilence was candy coated by the press???

Hillary's comment was simply a statement on campaigns from extremes A to Z.
Huckabee's comment shoud have ENDED his political career for good!!!!

The media goes on and on about Hillary. Nothing further on Huckabee.
You be the judge...

Urr, where's Huckabee's campaign now?

Urr, that has nothing to do with the thread...

Actually, it has everything to do with the thread.

First, let me say that there is gender bias, and racial bias, and we don't know how much those come into play in these cases. So I'm not disagreeing that part of the reason Hillary's comments have gotten so much more attention might be bias.

But the most likely explanation, in my view, is the one quoted above. Huckabee's comments would likely have gotten much, much more attention if he were still in the race. I don't necessarily agree that his comments were similar (I tend to agree with the view that his comments were not really an issue), but either way, you can't expect him to get the same attention since he's been out of the race for months now.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: glutenberg
Urr, where's Huckabee's campaign now?

Urr, that has nothing to do with the thread...

It matters a great deal when one of them is no longer a candidate.

 

[Thump553]

If you are going to whine, at least get your facts correct. Hillary's comment was about Bobbie's death. Jack died on 11/22-which would be a couple weeks AFTER the general election. I don't think, even in her present delusional state, Hillary will keep her campaign going that long . . . just in case.

As mentioned before, Huckabee is an acknowledged failed candidate at this point. What he says is essentially meaningless.

Personally, I am sick to death of Hillary supporters whining about sexism and the media supposedly picking on her (when has been the prime topic on NPR this week). When she was cruising as the front runner Hillary treated the media as mushrooms (keep them in the dark and cover them with sh*t) and now, when she needs them, she complains. I have no sympathy for her tactical blunder/natural result of character flaw (your choice).

 

[ScottyB]

Originally posted by: gorobei

-Clinton's comment is different as it wasn't a joke and it can be interpreted as an insight as to what she's hoping for in the nomination race. As almost all the numbers are against her, the only hope she has of getting the nomination is if something disastrous happens to Obama. While polite folks might offer the possibility of a legal scandal, medical issue, drug history, or some "cultural values" skeleton in the closet, she's the only one to tread into the assassination scenario. She's touched on it a few times before without specifically mentioning the "killing" of RFK.

Actually, on March 6th she made an almost identical comment to Time magazine mentioning Kennedy's assassination.

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Wasn't Huckabee one of the main GOP candidates at the time of the incident? It's not as if he said it today when he's not a candidate.

I'm guessing I'm getting the date of the incident mixed up with the date listed on the bottom of the page. Sorry.

 

[gorobei]

No you're correct about the timing glutenberg. Huckabee dropped out in March, he made the joke May 17 at a NRA rally event where he was introducing McCain and warming up the crowd.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: Craig234
Wasn't Huckabee one of the main GOP candidates at the time of the incident? It's not as if he said it today when he's not a candidate.

No, the incident in question took place only a few weeks ago.

Huckabee has been out of the race for a few months now.

 

[preslove]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: sportage
Huckabee at the NRA

Ok, explain why Hillary's comment is so awful and should end her campaign, vs Huckabee's comment suggestion of KKK, blacks and voilence was candy coated by the press???

Hillary's comment was simply a statement on campaigns from extremes A to Z.
Huckabee's comment shoud have ENDED his political career for good!!!!

The media goes on and on about Hillary. Nothing further on Huckabee.
You be the judge...

Urr, where's Huckabee's campaign now?

Urr, that has nothing to do with the thread...

What are you talking about? The OP pointed out media bias and then compared someone who's under a microscope (Clinton) to someone who has nearly been forgotten (Huckabee). If you were talking about McCain making that comment, then yes, he'd have a point, but he's not. He gets a quick blurb and is forgotten fairly quickly. Don't be ridiculous Craig.

Wasn't Huckabee one of the main GOP candidates at the time of the incident? It's not as if he said it today when he's not a candidate.

He said it within the past few weeks. He's been out for a couple of months. Moran.

edit: damn, too slow.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: sportage
Huckabee at the NRA

Ok, explain why Hillary's comment is so awful and should end her campaign, vs Huckabee's comment suggestion of KKK, blacks and voilence was candy coated by the press???

Hillary's comment was simply a statement on campaigns from extremes A to Z.
Huckabee's comment shoud have ENDED his political career for good!!!!

The media goes on and on about Hillary. Nothing further on Huckabee.
You be the judge...

When and where did Huckabee say anything about the KKK, blacks and violence?

I take it you read about his comments in some left wing blog? Perhaps you could provide us a link that shows Huckabee talking about any of those three items.

 

[preslove]

The thing that infuriates me about the Clinton idiots whining about gender bias is the fact that her core support comes from old white women, who make up the LARGEST BLOCK OF VOTERS IN DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES. The only reason she has survived in past February is the fact that old white women want to see a woman president, even if that means getting a lying piece of garbage like Hillary.

 

[ProfJohn]

^ you could say the same thing about Obama and black people.

Take away his 90% share of the black vote and he losses North Carolina and a few other places etc.

 

[preslove]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
^ you could say the same thing about Obama and black people.

Take away his 90% share of the black vote and he losses North Carolina and a few other places etc.

Yes, but there are far more Women Democrats than there are black Democrats, so the identity politics favors clinton dramatically. Plus, Obama won in quite a few states with very few blacks; Iowa, Wyoming, Oregon, etc. And Clinton's latest wins only came in the racist Appalachian states.

 

[Thump553]

My wife is what many of you would call an old white woman and she is a feverent Obama supporter. Among her Dem women friends, nearly all are Obama supporters. When we went to an Obama speech in Feb. in a nearby city that is probably 80% black 15% Hispanic the audience was probably 60% white, 30% black and 5% Hispanic by my estimation.

I don't think the so-called racial divide will amount to a hill of beans come election time (excluding the absolute racists).