Hillary May Be Charged Within 60 Days

[Jhhnn]

Your dishonesty is, once again, becoming tiring. Had Hillary used a government server the investigation would be exactly the same. Why? Because classified info (classified prior or after the fact) on non secured systems is an issue regardless. You continue time and time again to ignore this fact.

The whole thing is a seamless & circular conflation of related but different issues.

Hillary's use of her private server for everything is one issue. That obviously wasn't illegal at the time or she'd already be busted. That's a complete no-brainer. It was clearly a mistake she's acknowledged.

The other is just how supposedly classified information made it to the internet at all regardless of where it came to reside. The IG who requested the security review could have slipped that knife between her ribs had she used state dept servers. That's not a secure system, either.

In any event, it's a good thing that the FBI only has to deal with the evidence rather than the Repub bullshit or they'd never be able to figure out anything. Brandolini's Law is clearly in effect.

 

[werepossum]

Yeah, I figured that was way too complex for your simple mind to grasp. You're more of a "See Spot run" sort of intellect. Or you're lying again.

There is a difference between saying, "We're investigating 'X'" and "We're investigating the alphabet, including 'X'." Of course, in this case it's even more ambiguous since Baker wouldn't provide the scope of their investigation. All he said is Clinton and the server are part of it. Which matches my original post, which explicitly said:

"including Clinton"
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Funny how you repeatedly ignored that.

Your post was :

Please cite an actual FBI source stating they are investigating her server. All I remember is a statement that they're investigating classified information handling within the State Department, including Clinton (and that statement may have come from DoS rather that the FBI). That's one of the many facts you guys miss.

Oh, and how much manpower is that? Be sure to cite an actual FBI source, or at least some other credible source with first-hand information about the investigation. Then, once you have that number, tell us what the appropriate level of manpower should be for the FBI to do a thorough investigation of this scope.

Once again, we have way too many rubes slurping speculation and innuendo, and embracing it as fact. Critical thinking FAIL.

Now either you accept that the "FBI acknowledges that Clinton and her server are included within the scope of their investigation" means that the FBI is investigating Mrs. Clinton and her server because of Mrs. Clinton's use of her own private server, including all related handling of classified documents into their investigation, or you pretend that the FBI just got a wild hair and spontaneously began investigating all "classified information handling within the State Department", into which investigation Mrs. Clinton and her server were coincidentally swept up. Which is it? If you demand that someone prove the FBI is investigating Mrs. Clinton and then claim you admitted all along that the FBI is investigating Mrs. Clinton, you just look like an idiot. (I know, I know, that ship sailed long ago, I'm just pointing it out.)

Please take however long you need for the voices in your head to come to some conclusion as to what you are trying to say so that I may mock it properly. Note that "I don't know what I'm trying to say but I'll ferociously defend Hillary no matter what" is an acceptable answer to this question, though ONLY to this question.

 

[Bowfinger]

Your post was :

Now either you accept that the "FBI acknowledges that Clinton and her server are included within the scope of their investigation" means that the FBI is investigating Mrs. Clinton and her server because of Mrs. Clinton's use of her own private server, including all related handling of classified documents into their investigation, or you pretend that the FBI just got a wild hair and spontaneously began investigating all "classified information handling within the State Department", into which investigation Mrs. Clinton and her server were coincidentally swept up. Which is it? If you demand that someone prove the FBI is investigating Mrs. Clinton and then claim you admitted all along that the FBI is investigating Mrs. Clinton, you just look like an idiot. (I know, I know, that ship sailed long ago, I'm just pointing it out.)

Please take however long you need for the voices in your head to come to some conclusion as to what you are trying to say so that I may mock it properly. Note that "I don't know what I'm trying to say but I'll ferociously defend Hillary no matter what" is an acceptable answer to this question, though ONLY to this question.

Yeah, I figured that was way too complex for your simple mind to grasp. You're more of a "See Spot run" sort of intellect. Or you're lying again.

There is a difference between saying, "We're investigating 'X'" and "We're investigating the alphabet, including 'X'." Of course, in this case it's even more ambiguous since Baker wouldn't provide the scope of their investigation. All he said is Clinton and the server are part of it. Which matches my original post, which explicitly said:

"including Clinton"
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Funny how you repeatedly ignored that.

 

[werepossum]

Yeah, I figured that was way too complex for your simple mind to grasp. You're more of a "See Spot run" sort of intellect. Or you're lying again.

There is a difference between saying, "We're investigating 'X'" and "We're investigating the alphabet, including 'X'." Of course, in this case it's even more ambiguous since Baker wouldn't provide the scope of their investigation. All he said is Clinton and the server are part of it. Which matches my original post, which explicitly said:

"including Clinton"
​

Funny how you repeatedly ignored that.

lol Lack of consensus among the voices duly noted.

Damned shame that the angelic Mrs. Clinton got caught up in an investigation of that nasty old alphabet, eh?

 

[boomerang]

Sounds like Pagliano is spilling his guts in a big way.

Source: Clinton IT specialist revealing server details to FBI, 'devastating witness'

 

[Jhhnn]

Your post was :

Now either you accept that the "FBI acknowledges that Clinton and her server are included within the scope of their investigation" means that the FBI is investigating Mrs. Clinton and her server because of Mrs. Clinton's use of her own private server, including all related handling of classified documents into their investigation, or you pretend that the FBI just got a wild hair and spontaneously began investigating all "classified information handling within the State Department", into which investigation Mrs. Clinton and her server were coincidentally swept up. Which is it? If you demand that someone prove the FBI is investigating Mrs. Clinton and then claim you admitted all along that the FBI is investigating Mrs. Clinton, you just look like an idiot. (I know, I know, that ship sailed long ago, I'm just pointing it out.)

Please take however long you need for the voices in your head to come to some conclusion as to what you are trying to say so that I may mock it properly. Note that "I don't know what I'm trying to say but I'll ferociously defend Hillary no matter what" is an acceptable answer to this question, though ONLY to this question.

When I point out that you're conflating the issues, you do it again in the very next post.

First off, The FBI is conducting a security review rather than a criminal investigation-

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ary-clinton-emails-criminal-inquiry/30607775/

It's a bureaucratic turf battle over compartmentalized information on Hillary's server, likely not information originating from the State Dept, information that came from the outside.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article...clinton-had-top-secretsensitive-compartmented

I wouldn't matter if it were her server or a State Dept server- the information shouldn't be anywhere on the internet. If the sender had put it in your inbox they'd have grounds to investigate that server as well. Information classified after the fact is a whole different story.

The best part for propagandists like yourself is that we can't even see it to see just how chickenshit the whole thing might be.

 

[Bowfinger]

lol Lack of consensus among the voices duly noted.

Damned shame that the angelic Mrs. Clinton got caught up in an investigation of that nasty old alphabet, eh?

"I'm shocked Werepossum is lying about my position," said nobody ever.

 

[werepossum]

When I point out that you're conflating the issues, you do it again in the very next post.

First off, The FBI is conducting a security review rather than a criminal investigation-

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ary-clinton-emails-criminal-inquiry/30607775/

It's a bureaucratic turf battle over compartmentalized information on Hillary's server, likely not information originating from the State Dept, information that came from the outside.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article...clinton-had-top-secretsensitive-compartmented

I wouldn't matter if it were her server or a State Dept server- the information shouldn't be anywhere on the internet. If the sender had put it in your inbox they'd have grounds to investigate that server as well. Information classified after the fact is a whole different story.

The best part for propagandists like yourself is that we can't even see it to see just how chickenshit the whole thing might be.

According to MSNBC - obviously an integral part of the vast right wing conspiracy - the FBI is specifically investigating Mrs. Clinton's use of a private server. That is in stark contradiction with your position.

"I'm shocked Werepossum is lying about my position," said nobody ever.

Dude, you don't have anything that could remotely be termed a position. You're still trying to pretend the FBI is not investigating Mrs. Clinton's activities while claiming that you've always maintained that the FBI is investigating Mrs. Clinton's activities. To call that a position is laughable.

 

[Bowfinger]

Dude, you don't have anything that could remotely be termed a position. You're still trying to pretend the FBI is not investigating Mrs. Clinton's activities while claiming that you've always maintained that the FBI is investigating Mrs. Clinton's activities. To call that a position is laughable.

"I'm shocked Werepossum is lying about my position," said nobody ever.

 

[werepossum]

Sounds like Pagliano is spilling his guts in a big way.

Source: Clinton IT specialist revealing server details to FBI, 'devastating witness'

I'm missing how Pagliano can be devastating. If it's in regards to improperly distributing classified information, how could they indict Hillary without indicting Powell? If it's in regards to dodging FOIA laws, how could they indict Hillary without indicting the Bushies? I''m not seeing a path to indicting Hillary without indicting most of D.C.

Although what would be totally awesome would be if Hillary is the Democrat nominee and is under indictment, and then Trump is the Republican nominee and gets indicted for some of his many questionable activities. I don't think one could frame a more cogent picture of our political system than two people under indictment running for the most power office in the world. That's a reality show just waiting to be scripted. Two individuals, running for President, with the winner becoming the most powerful person in the world and the loser going to federal prison. Tune in each week and vote an aid off the continent!

 

[werepossum]

When I point out that you're conflating the issues, you do it again in the very next post.

First off, The FBI is conducting a security review rather than a criminal investigation-

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ary-clinton-emails-criminal-inquiry/30607775/

It's a bureaucratic turf battle over compartmentalized information on Hillary's server, likely not information originating from the State Dept, information that came from the outside.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article...clinton-had-top-secretsensitive-compartmented

I wouldn't matter if it were her server or a State Dept server- the information shouldn't be anywhere on the internet. If the sender had put it in your inbox they'd have grounds to investigate that server as well. Information classified after the fact is a whole different story.

The best part for propagandists like yourself is that we can't even see it to see just how chickenshit the whole thing might be.

Luckily for you, you already know it is chickenshit so you don't have to see it. You just have to start from the inescapable conclusion that Hillary is the victim here and then work backward.

 

[Jhhnn]

Luckily for you, you already know it is chickenshit so you don't have to see it. You just have to start from the inescapable conclusion that Hillary is the victim here and then work backward.

I just work from the presumption of innocence.

I notice you didn't counter anything I offered but rather just spread more slime.

 

[Jhhnn]

According to MSNBC - obviously an integral part of the vast right wing conspiracy - the FBI is specifically investigating Mrs. Clinton's use of a private server. That is in stark contradiction with your position.


Dude, you don't have anything that could remotely be termed a position. You're still trying to pretend the FBI is not investigating Mrs. Clinton's activities while claiming that you've always maintained that the FBI is investigating Mrs. Clinton's activities. To call that a position is laughable.

Deliberately misleading-

Now, in a letter dated February 2 and filed in court Monday, the FBI’s general counsel, James Baker, notes that in public statements and congressional testimony, the FBI “has acknowledged generally that it is working on matters related to former Secretary Clinton’s use of a private email server.”

Baker says the FBI has not, however, “publicly acknowledged the specific focus, scope or potential targets of any such proceedings.”

"Matters related to" covers a lot of territory, like how compartmentalized information from other agencies escaped into the wild to land on Hillary's perfectly legal server.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

"Matters related to" covers a lot of territory, like how compartmentalized information from other agencies escaped into the wild to land on Hillary's perfectly legal server.

Yes it does. You need an electron microscope to parse those words into something you want to believe!

 

[werepossum]

Deliberately misleading-

"Matters related to" covers a lot of territory, like how compartmentalized information from other agencies escaped into the wild to land on Hillary's perfectly legal server.

lol As I said: You just have to start from the inescapable conclusion that Hillary is the victim here and then work backward. How dare those other agencies victimize Mrs. Clinton and her perfectly legal server! Obviously the FBI is investigating the guilty, meaning everyone in government except Mrs. Clinton and her cronies. Funny though how that "presumption of innocence" stops with the Hildabeast herself rather than extending equally to those "other agencies". I suspect there are Republicans in those "other agencies".

Yes it does. You need an electron microscope to parse those words into something you want to believe!

lol

 

[Victorian Gray]

We've only been investigating her for 25 years. Any day now, any day now...

 

[Jhhnn]

Yes it does. You need an electron microscope to parse those words into something you want to believe!

The right wing spin machine seems to have the equipment.

 

[Jhhnn]

lol As I said: You just have to start from the inescapable conclusion that Hillary is the victim here and then work backward. How dare those other agencies victimize Mrs. Clinton and her perfectly legal server! Obviously the FBI is investigating the guilty, meaning everyone in government except Mrs. Clinton and her cronies. Funny though how that "presumption of innocence" stops with the Hildabeast herself rather than extending equally to those "other agencies". I suspect there are Republicans in those "other agencies".


lol

You're so sad when you're desperate, when you have to put up a straw man to disguise the straw man behind it.

 

[Hugo Drax]

So has it been 60 days.

I predict nothing happens.

 

[compuwiz1]

The only way it happens is if she loses the election and we get a new AG. I'm sure she loves and will retain Obama's appointee.

 

[nickqt]

The only way it happens is if she loses the election and we get a new AG. I'm sure she loves and will retain Obama's appointee.

It has to be true, because you said so!

 

[compuwiz1]

It has to be true, because you said so!

Fact, Jack!

 

[Jhhnn]

The only way it happens is if she loses the election and we get a new AG. I'm sure she loves and will retain Obama's appointee.

Fact, Jack!

If you really think that's fact your critical thinking skills are non-existent. It's pure speculation.

You begin from the speculation that she's done something illegal in the first place, spread slime from there.

I seriously doubt that prosecutable offenses occurred on the part of Hillary or her staff. OTOH, I don't try to represent that as fact.

 

[JEDIYoda]

The mods haven't locked this pile of crap yet??? Fat chance!! No way anything happens to Hillary!!!

 

[JEDIYoda]

There are a lot of stupid people in this thread. Not because they don't think Hillary will be indicted. Which she will because they have to otherwise it'll be a gross Injustice. But it seems a lot of people think Hillary isn't guilty. General Petraeus did a far lesser crime and they threw the book at him. I call bull shit.

hahahahaaaaaaaa...Fat chance!!