Hillary faints @ ground zero?

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flexy

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In summary, there is only one word I have for those desperate attempts by the right: PRIMITIVE

Just looking at the picture above...are they SERIOUSLY (as it seems) "accusing" her about things such as a broken elbow or coughing?
How lower and how more primitive can it even get?

For me this doesn't just look "desperate", it looks SO desperate as if Trump supporters already know that he will lose in November, otherwise this idiotic digging out of "health issues" sometimes from 8,9 or so years ago..defies any logic. (Not that logic and rationality has any place whatsoever with most Trump supporters). But THIS is just..attempts to "attack" a person in the most primitive way
 

boomerang

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This is the nature of bureaucrats, they are never forthcoming. It perpetuates the bureaucracy.
Unfortunately, this is comforting to too many. The status quo represents a known. Yes, they are corrupt but they give us things and they are saying they will give us more things! It's a fucking sickness that cannot be perpetuated indefinitely but greed is now the norm. Greed, envy, all the seven deadly sins spelled out in Christianity have become aspirations fueled by the political class seeking power.

The pisser is that we have a man, yes a flawed man, that actually wants to change the system. Despite that system fighting back in every way it seemingly can, he has risen to the top of his party and he now faces a candidate that wants to not just continue the comfort of the status quo but make it larger. The shortsighted, the people that live for the moment think she's wonderful for all the wrong reasons. Reasons that they have been conditioned to believe are righteous and just.

Will we ever know to what degree he can achieve success against a system that will eventually fail without major intervention? Stay tuned. I fully suspect that the bread and circuses will be maintained and intensified over the next four years. The longer it perpetuates the harder the fall. It's been said that history is destined to repeat itself. It certainly appears so.
 

Painman

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In summary, there is only one word I have for those desperate attempts by the right: PRIMITIVE

Just looking at the picture above...are they SERIOUSLY (as it seems) "accusing" her about things such as a broken elbow or coughing?
How lower and how more primitive can it even get?

No need for you to bother yourself denigrating the voter base; your candidate is doing it for you
 

nageov3t

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The pisser is that we have a man, yes a flawed man, that actually wants to change the system.
I'm all for the theory of change, but based on the changes Trump is actually promising -- starting trade wars, encouraging increased nuclear proliferation around the world, refusing to believe in climate change, tearing up the Geneva Conventions, and doubling down on every theocratic idea exposed by the Christian Right -- at this point, I'd take Hillary's dead and rotting corpse over the stuff he's promising.

and that's not to even touch on the fact that Mike Pence -- the guy Trump chose out of every Republican in the country to be his #2 -- is someone who wants "change" insofar as he doesn't believe in evolution, doesn't think cigarettes cause cancer, wants women to be forced to have funerals for their aborted fetuses against their will, and wants government money to be used to support "pray away the gay" conversion therapy programs.

seems fair to say that good change > status quo >>> bad change.

at this point, Hillary is representing the status quo and Trump is representing bad change. the best outcome I see is 4 years of the status quo followed by Republicans trying again in 2020 with a less toxic candidate.
 
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nageov3t

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of course, we know all of this because Clinton has actually disclosed medical details as opposed to Trump who's disclosed nothing.

has anyone ever asked Trump why he uses his donors' money to fly home to Trump Tower every night? smart people are saying that he has a regeneration chamber that he gets plugged into every night and that's the only thing keeping his 70 year-old, morbidly obese body together; the orange skin and weird hair growth pattern are just unfortunate side-effects.
 

LegendKiller

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In summary, there is only one word I have for those desperate attempts by the right: PRIMITIVE

Just looking at the picture above...are they SERIOUSLY (as it seems) "accusing" her about things such as a broken elbow or coughing?
How lower and how more primitive can it even get?

For me this doesn't just look "desperate", it looks SO desperate as if Trump supporters already know that he will lose in November, otherwise this idiotic digging out of "health issues" sometimes from 8,9 or so years ago..defies any logic. (Not that logic and rationality has any place whatsoever with most Trump supporters). But THIS is just..attempts to "attack" a person in the most primitive way
Ohh yes, the "high road". Whose desperation are we talking about? You guys are horrified that your mummified establishment Warhawk wall st and soros owned puppet can't even open up a consistent lead and seems to be failing. So what is your recourse?

Denigrate.

Who is the primitive?

Face it, you would have been far better off with Warren but your party failed you. Why? Because it is bought. It is corrupt. It is a farce. You, and your party, failed.

And in your blathering and flaccid attempt to reconcile your failure with your original expectstions, you attack the right.

Personal responsibility.

You shouldn't have allowed her to get through in the first place.

But you had no choice. And that is what this comes down to. It's not our fault you haven't realized that yet.
 
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echo4747

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You have to take medicals records with a grain of salt. i.e.:
IIRC, It was rumored that JFK had addisons disease, this rumor bothered him so much he released two doctors reports stating he was in excellent health. It was confirmed from his autopsy he had addisons disease
 

LegendKiller

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You have to take medicals records with a grain of salt. i.e.:
IIRC, It was rumored that JFK had addisons disease, this rumor bothered him so much he released two doctors reports stating he was in excellent health. It was confirmed from his autopsy he had addisons disease
Wait, what?! Doctors wouldn't lie, especially democrat doctors. Only trumps doctor lies.

A picture is worth a million doctor reports. And what we saw is a woman who was unconcious and tossed into a odd looking van like a slab of beef. And not a single one of her people reacted like it was strange.
 

realibrad

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Ohh yes, the "high road". Whose desperation are we talking about? You guys are horrified that your mummified establishment Warhawk wall st and soros owned puppet can't even open up a consistent lead and seems to be failing. So what is your recourse?

Denigrate.

Who is the primitive?

Face it, you would have been far better off with Warren but your party failed you. Why? Because it is bought. It is corrupt. It is a farce. You, and your party, failed.

And in your blathering and flaccid attempt to reconcile your failure with your original expectstions, you attack the right.

Personal responsibility.

You shouldn't have allowed her to get through in the first place.

But you had no choice. And that is what this comes down to. It's not our fault you haven't realized that yet.

And much of the same can be said about the right sadly. Trump should have never made it as far as he has. He is nowhere near qualified for being president. Both parties failed us, and have been for a while.
 

echo4747

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Both Trump and Clinton probably have the means to furnish a nice medical report. Just from observations on the campaign trail, I dont see how anyone can view Clinton as more vibrant,healthy,showing stamina compared drectly to Trump
 

Jhhnn

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I'm all for the theory of change, but based on the changes Trump is actually promising -- starting trade wars, encouraging increased nuclear proliferation around the world, refusing to believe in climate change, tearing up the Geneva Conventions, and doubling down on every theocratic idea exposed by the Christian Right -- at this point, I'd take Hillary's dead and rotting corpse over the stuff he's promising.

and that's not to even touch on the fact that Mike Pence -- the guy Trump chose out of every Republican in the country to be his #2 -- is someone who wants "change" insofar as he doesn't believe in evolution, doesn't think cigarettes cause cancer, wants women to be forced to have funerals for their aborted fetuses against their will, and wants government money to be used to support "pray away the gay" conversion therapy programs.

You forgot about financial deregulation, tax cuts for the financial elite & the immigration Gestapo deporting millions of American children, not to mention the bunkers in Albania mentality of a border wall. Oh, yeh- if we overspend on any of it, the country can just declare bankruptcy, too, and sail on like nothing happened.

So, yeh, let's all get blind stupid mad over what we know not & vote Vulgarian.
 

LegendKiller

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And much of the same can be said about the right sadly. Trump should have never made it as far as he has. He is nowhere near qualified for being president. Both parties failed us, and have been for a while.
What does qualified mean anyway? Does slickster speeches, endless compromises and selling out after decades of political "experience" make the optimal president?
 

LegendKiller

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You forgot about financial deregulation, tax cuts for the financial elite & the immigration Gestapo deporting millions of American children, not to mention the bunkers in Albania mentality of a border wall. Oh, yeh- if we overspend on any of it, the country can just declare bankruptcy, too, and sail on like nothing happened.

So, yeh, let's all get blind stupid mad over what we know not & vote Vulgarian.
So under hillary you get almost all of that, except you just import millions more while laying off hardworking Americans.
 

realibrad

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So under hillary you get almost all of that, except you just import millions more while laying off hardworking Americans.

LOL what? Import millions and lose jobs for "hardworking" blah blah blah. The alternative is to allow companies to ship off jobs taking away blah blah blah. What is your point? There is a reason Trump clothes were made outside of the US.
 

Jhhnn

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So under hillary you get almost all of that, except you just import millions more while laying off hardworking Americans.

And now, pure denial. Unlike Hillary, Trump has demonstrably called for all of that & more. Not to mention beefing up the military so that we won't use it, as if that makes any kind of sense.

Anybody who has any doubts about the disastrous nature of a Trump presidency just needs to look at who'll actually be left to run things, Mike Pence. He'll bring the Teahad in all its raging glory, bet on it. He's a True Believer.
 

LegendKiller

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LOL what? Import millions and lose jobs for "hardworking" blah blah blah. The alternative is to allow companies to ship off jobs taking away blah blah blah. What is your point? There is a reason Trump clothes were made outside of the US.
What about the uc system laying off Americans and brining in h1bs?
 

LegendKiller

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And now, pure denial. Unlike Hillary, Trump has demonstrably called for all of that & more. Not to mention beefing up the military so that we won't use it, as if that makes any kind of sense.

Anybody who has any doubts about the disastrous nature of a Trump presidency just needs to look at who'll actually be left to run things, Mike Pence. He'll bring the Teahad in all its raging glory, bet on it. He's a True Believer.
Lol, pure denial. You're a fine one to talk.

You know that frankenclinton is a medical nightmare. You dodge her asking about drugs in emails, he medical scares. Her obvious avoidance of the er, of answering truthfully. Of her glasses. Her cough...etc.

Your candidate is about failure of epic proportions. Everything she has touched sucks. Deal with it.
 

Texashiker

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You diehard liberals, if hillary died tomorrow yall would be saying she has a cold and will get better in no time.

Hillary is done for, it is over. She is going to disappear from public eye, except for some very short appearances.

In the end, it is doubtful she makes it through the debates without an IV of medicine.

The best thing that can happen is for hillary to collapse during the debates. I wish her no ill will, but she needs to retire. She needs to be a grandmother while she is still healthy enough.
 

fskimospy

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You diehard liberals, if hillary died tomorrow yall would be saying she has a cold and will get better in no time.

Hillary is done for, it is over. She is going to disappear from public eye, except for some very short appearances.

In the end, it is doubtful she makes it through the debates without an IV of medicine.

The best thing that can happen is for hillary to collapse during the debates. I wish her no ill will, but she needs to retire. She needs to be a grandmother while she is still healthy enough.

It's always interesting to watch someone desperately try and convince themselves of what they want to be true. You want it so badly and you're going to be so sad when Trump loses.
 

Texashiker

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It's always interesting to watch someone desperately try and convince themselves of what they want to be true. You want it so badly and you're going to be so sad when Trump loses.

Watching hillary collapse if not "desperately try and convince themselves".

Watching hillary coughing fits is not "desperately try and convince themselves"

Watching hillary talk to a child face to face after being diagnosed with pneumonia is not "desperately try and convince themselves"
 

fskimospy

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Watching hillary collapse if not "desperately try and convince themselves".

Watching hillary coughing fits is not "desperately try and convince themselves"

Watching hillary talk to a child face to face after being diagnosed with pneumonia is not "desperately try and convince themselves"

Thanks for reinforcing that's exactly what you're trying to do.

Don't be too surprised when literally none of your predictions come true.