Hillary faints @ ground zero?

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Kazukian

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From the Clinton Campaign:

1.). She's healthy, nothing wrong
2.). She stumbled, what are you talking about?
3.). She overheated, and she's all better now, look at this staged video with a child and no Secret Service in sight
4.). She has bacterial pneumonia, diagnosed on Friday, by an unknown doctor, here's her doctor to explain.

Right Jhhnn, nothing to see here. All easy to explain.

The optic of her being literally thrown in her van will never go away. And for the first time in recent memory, Trump the idiot kept his mouth shut and let it play out.

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nageov3t

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BREAKING: Democratic Party Calling “Emergency Meeting” To Consider Replacing Hillary Over Health
the only source for this news is an anonymous source posted to twitter by David Schuster, who pretty much lost all credibility after repeatedly saying Clinton was getting indicted "any day now" according to his same anon

From the Clinton Campaign:

1.). She's healthy, nothing wrong
2.). She stumbled, what are you talking about?
3.). She overheated, and she's all better now, look at this staged video with a child and no Secret Service in sight
4.). She has bacterial pneumonia, diagnosed on Friday, by an unknown doctor, here's her doctor to explain.
not an unknown doctor, Clinton's doctor put out a statement (http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/11/politics/hillary-clinton-health/)
 

spacejamz

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From the Clinton Campaign:

4.). She has bacterial pneumonia, diagnosed on Friday, by an unknown doctor, here's her doctor to explain.

Was Chelsea's youngest kid home when they brought her there? Didn't she hug some little kid after she left the apartment?
 

PokerGuy

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Was Chelsea's youngest kid home when they brought her there? Didn't she hug some little kid after she left the apartment?

Yep. If indeed she was diagnosed with pneumonia, then why in the world would she put a child in danger just a couple of hours after her collapse? It's a contagious disease.

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No cadre of docs and secret service around her for that foto op. Nicely staged ;)
 
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the only source for this news is an anonymous source posted to twitter by David Schuster, who pretty much lost all credibility after repeatedly saying Clinton was getting indicted "any day now" according to his same anon


not an unknown doctor, Clinton's doctor put out a statement (http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/11/politics/hillary-clinton-health/)

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Read it like a lawyer, Bardack isn't claiming to be the one that diagnosed the pneumonia, she only claims to have examined her on Sunday. Doctors are very careful about what they did or did not do, particularly in writing.

Also, when did she get a chest X-ray to diagnose the pneumonia? She had a full schedule on Friday with her press pool in tow.
 
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Yep. If indeed she was diagnosed with pneumonia, then why in the world would she put a child in danger just a couple of hours after her collapse? It's a contagious disease.

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No cadre of docs and secret service around her for that foto op. Nicely staged ;)

Some forms of pneumonia are not contagious, some are strongly contagious. Most forms are weakly contagious, meaning it is difficult to transmit it to others. She'd have to cough directly in someone's face, and that person would have to directly inhale expelled droplets of liquid.

OTOH, if she got pneumonia from a flu, and she still has the underlying flu, this flu would be a lot more contagious than the pneumonia.
 

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Read it like a lawyer, Bardack isn't claiming to be the one that diagnosed the pneumonia, she only claims to have examined her on Sunday. Doctors are very careful about what they did or did not do, particularly in writing.
She would not be saying "she was diagnosed" if there was no diagnosis.
Also: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...lintons-pneumonia-also-plagued-campaign-staff
Members of Hillary Clinton's staff had pneumonia before the candidate came down with it, according to a report.

At least half a dozen senior staff in Clinton's Brooklyn headquarters battled the illness before the Democratic presidential nominee was diagnosed with the virus on Sunday, Peoplereported Monday.



“Everyone’s been sick,” a campaign source told the publication.
The source said pneumonia cases began popping up among Clinton's staff in late August, two weeks before the former first lady’s diagnosis.Among those affected were campaign aides who travel closely with Clinton.

Campaign manager Robby Mook was among those who were under the weather. Two of Clinton’s top advisers received emergency medical treatment during their illness.

One top adviser was receiving antibiotics for a respiratory infection days before Clinton’s own diagnosis for pneumonia.

Another key staffer was taken by ambulance to the ER, People’s source added, after collapsing from what was discovered as severe dehydration.

I understand Hillary felt she couldn't miss 9/11 Memorial, or was worried about feeding conspiracy theories about her health, but there is no need to be a hero with pneumonia at age 68 just to keep up appearances. She should take the week off and take care of herself.
 
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PokerGuy

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Some forms of pneumonia are not contagious, some are strongly contagious. Most forms are weakly contagious, meaning it is difficult to transmit it to others. She'd have to cough directly in someone's face, and that person would have to directly inhale expelled droplets of liquid.

OTOH, if she got pneumonia from a flu, and she still has the underlying flu, this flu would be a lot more contagious than the pneumonia.

... and without xrays and other kinds of lab testing (which doesn't happen in minutes), how would they know how contagious it was or wasn't? You just turn around and hug some kid when you might have something contagious that can be dangerous? In that case, she's either negligent, or they know it's not really pneumonia as the underlying cause.
 
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... and without xrays and other kinds of lab testing (which doesn't happen in minutes), how would they know how contagious it was or wasn't? You just turn around and hug some kid when you might have something contagious that can be dangerous? In that case, she's either negligent, or they know it's not really pneumonia as the underlying cause.

I would assume that would have been determined on friday, as part of the diagnosis. That's typically when culture would have been done. Not at Chelsea's apartment in Manhattan.
 

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... and without xrays and other kinds of lab testing (which doesn't happen in minutes), how would they know how contagious it was or wasn't? You just turn around and hug some kid when you might have something contagious that can be dangerous? In that case, she's either negligent, or they know it's not really pneumonia as the underlying cause.
How about instead of being a Trump supporter driven by fear, you actually inform yourself and be driven by facts?
http://www.webmd.com/lung/tc/pneumonia-what-happens
Going to the hospital
If you have severe pneumonia, you may have to go to the hospital:

  • In most cases of pneumonia you get in your daily life, such as at school or work (community-based pneumonia), it is not necessary to go to the hospital.1
  • About one-third of people with community-based pneumonia are age 65 or older.1 Older adults are treated in the hospital more often and stay longer for the condition than younger people.1 Pneumonia is more serious in this group, because they often have and may develop other medical problems.
Spreading pneumonia to others
If your pneumonia is caused by a virus or bacteria, you may spread the infection to other people while you are contagious. How long you are contagious depends on what is causing the pneumonia and whether you get treatment. You may be contagious for several days to a week.

If you get antibiotics, you usually cannot spread the infection to others after a day of treatment.
 

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She would not be saying "she was diagnosed" if there was no diagnosis.
Also: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...lintons-pneumonia-also-plagued-campaign-staff

I understand Hillary felt she couldn't miss 9/11 Memorial, or was worried about feeding conspiracy theories about her health, but there is no need to be a hero with pneumonia at age 68 just to keep up appearances. She should take the week off and take care of herself.

What, doesn't the Democratic candidate, hero of the working person and champion of the "little guy" give her campaign staff sick leave time? It's a legal requirement in NYC which Brooklyn is a part of. Or is she doing the evil greedy Republican thing and not hiring them full time so as to avoid the costs of providing benefits to her staff?

https://www.littler.com/revised-new-york-city-earned-sick-time-act-effective-april-1-2014
 

nageov3t

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What, doesn't the Democratic candidate, hero of the working person and champion of the "little guy" give her campaign staff sick leave time? It's a legal requirement in NYC which Brooklyn is a part of. Or is she doing the evil greedy Republican thing and not hiring them full time so as to avoid the costs of providing benefits to her staff?

https://www.littler.com/revised-new-york-city-earned-sick-time-act-effective-april-1-2014
who said that Clinton campaign staffers aren't allowed sick leave?

she can't make them take it, and the world of campaigning is so hyper competitive I'd have to assume a staffer would need to be on their death bed to actually take a day off.
 

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Those glasses are covering up the fact that her eyes have already been removed and replaced with cybernetic implants. Why haven't we seen her eyes in the last 24 hours?!? What are they hiding?!? If you look real close you see the really thin wires they are using to manipulate her facial expressions and make it appear she is waving.

For all we know she has already passed from the Parkinson's that she caught last week while shaking hands and the liburls have desperately re-animated her corpse. Probably using animatronics from Disney.

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What, doesn't the Democratic candidate, hero of the working person and champion of the "little guy" give her campaign staff sick leave time? It's a legal requirement in NYC which Brooklyn is a part of. Or is she doing the evil greedy Republican thing and not hiring them full time so as to avoid the costs of providing benefits to her staff?
https://www.littler.com/revised-new-york-city-earned-sick-time-act-effective-april-1-2014

We have sick time at work, doesn't stop people from coming in sick.
 
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Except you don't see anyone or hardly anyone in here defending Trump. Both Candidates suck and you can find fault with Hillary and not actually be a Trump voter... and comment here. Seems the loudest moaners here are the Hillary apologists and the anyone but Trump crowd. I'm part of the anyone but Hillary or Trump crowd.

Correct, and also hence the million dollars spent to defend against internet trolls. I don't support either candidate (as a non American), and even if I were American I wouldn't vote for any of these idiots. There is no lesser of two evil's here to choose from.

There are some semi credible alternatives that will never see the light of day which you can "throw your vote away" on such as Gary Johnson but I suspect no one really knows or cares as they only see red or blue.

http://imgur.com/QjsCuPm
 

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Correct, and also hence the million dollars spent to defend against internet trolls. I don't support either candidate (as a non American), and even if I were American I wouldn't vote for any of these idiots. There is no lesser of two evil's here to choose from.

There are some semi credible alternatives that will never see the light of day which you can "throw your vote away" on such as Gary Johnson but I suspect no one really knows or cares as they only see red or blue.

Johnson is not a credible alternative. His monetary policy ideas alone are so insanely bad that they are immediately disqualifying. He basically believes in fantasy economics.

I find the 'both candidates are equally bad' thing to be ridiculous nonsense. If you actually think they are the same can you lay out the bad qualities for each that make them equivalent? My strong suspicion is that when you do that you're going to find that they aren't even close.
 
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Hillary is an invalid. We have a fucking invalid running for our highest office, pretty dam sad. How she was able to hide her condition even this long is amazing. A lot of speculation that she has Parkinson's.
 

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I don't think it should be made into such a big deal that Hillary has pneumonia. That disease can be nasty, but most people recover from it just fine.

I do think she and her campaign should've been forthcoming about it though. Secrecy is the last thing she should be exercising considering her reputation.

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Jaskalas

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I don't think it should be made into such a big deal that Hillary has pneumonia. That disease can be nasty, but most people recover from it just fine.

I do think she and her campaign should've been forthcoming about it though. Secrecy is the last thing she should be exercising considering her reputation.

It took time to make up a story to cover the epilepsy.