Hillary faints @ ground zero?

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Hillary is an invalid. We have a fucking invalid running for our highest office, pretty dam sad. How she was able to hide her condition even this long is amazing. A lot of speculation that she has Parkinson's.

awww look who crawled out from his hidey hole. welcome back spide... er speedy!

 

[PokerGuy]

I don't think it should be made into such a big deal that Hillary has pneumonia. That disease can be nasty, but most people recover from it just fine.

I do think she and her campaign should've been forthcoming about it though. Secrecy is the last thing she should be exercising considering her reputation.

Hey! I'm over 9000!

That's really the issue though. Her getting pneumonia (if indeed that's all she's got) is not at all a big story. It should essentially be a non-story if her camp is transparent and forthcoming about her health. It might slow her down for a week or so in terms of campaigning, but otherwise should be OK. Since they haven't been forthcoming or transparent, there is all sorts of speculation running rampant about her health, and this seizure/collapse issue just fed into it nicely.

 

[theeedude]

She has been far more transparent than Trump on her health. She released a detailed summary from her doctor, whereas Trump released a completely vacuous statement. But the right is spreading rumors that she's not transparent.

 

[Pens1566]

I'm losing track of what the diagnosis du jour is from Wingnut & Associates Internet Internal Medicine Specialists. Is it Epilepsy? Parkinsons? Lupus?

 

[theeedude]

Trump supporters winning hearts and minds every day. This is the guy who jacked up AIDS drug price 5000%.

 

[echo4747]

why the the Clintons don't like transparency

 

[woolfe9998]

... and without xrays and other kinds of lab testing (which doesn't happen in minutes), how would they know how contagious it was or wasn't? You just turn around and hug some kid when you might have something contagious that can be dangerous? In that case, she's either negligent, or they know it's not really pneumonia as the underlying cause.

You're correct in one respect. They almost never know what kind of strain it was. It is usually considered unimportant to identify the strain unless the person is in really bad shape.

AFAIK pneumonia is transmitted only through coughing and sneezing, the difference between highly and mildly contagious being the likelihood of transmittal through coughing and sneezing.

Also, those photos do not show what you call a "hug." They show her with her hand on the girls shoulder. How did this hand pat suddenly become a "hug?" Anyway, it doesn't matter because AFAIK you cannot give someone pneumonia by putting your hand of their shoulder or by hugging them, unless there is coughing or sneezing involved.

 

[flexy]

>>
there is all sorts of speculation running rampant about her health
>>

Yeah! She had multiple "seizures" (lol), crapped her pants, has a catheter, has a damaged brain due to a concussion and otherwise died already back in 2007.
That there is a "coverup" about her health is just yet another spin on this. As mentioned earlier, this is "birthers x 9000", it's NUTTER TERRITORY, nothing more.
Pneumonia, by itself, including this fainting/collapse/exhaustion should actually be a non-issue, respective not that big a deal. People, sometimes, get ill. So yes?

Also: If she had Pneumonia and this was diagnosed some days/weeks ago and they "covered it up", I would actually understand why.

 

[fskimospy]

Trump supporters winning hearts and minds every day. This is the guy who jacked up AIDS drug price 5000%.

He's not going to do well in prison, lol.

 

[woolfe9998]

>>
there is all sorts of speculation running rampant about her health
>>

Yeah! She had multiple "seizures" (lol), crapped her pants, has a catheter, has a damaged brain due to a concussion and otherwise died already back in 2007.
That there is a "coverup" about her health is just yet another spin on this. As mentioned earlier, this is "birthers x 9000", it's NUTTER TERRITORY, nothing more.
Pneumonia, by itself, including this fainting/collapse/exhaustion should actually be a non-issue, respective not that big a deal. People, sometimes, get ill. So yes?

Also: If she had Pneumonia and this was diagnosed some days/weeks ago and they "covered it up", I would actually understand why.

Yup. I researched pneumonia a few months ago when my mother had it. There are millions of cases per year of pneumonia in the US alone. With adequate health care, it is not a serious concern. People get confused with 100 years ago, before anti-biotics, when it was a more serious problem.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiology_of_pneumonia

5-6 million cases per year in the US. About 50K deaths per year.

 

[flexy]

Trump supporters winning hearts and minds every day. This is the guy who jacked up AIDS drug price 5000%.

You could purchase a high-price ticket for The Ringling Bros or a similar circus, it won't have as much entertainment value as this election cycle.
(And by the way, why is this fucker still free? Shouldn't he be in prison meeting "Big Al" and getting educated about the uses of soap on a string?)

 

[SP33Demon]

I'm losing track of what the diagnosis du jour is from Wingnut & Associates Internet Internal Medicine Specialists. Is it Epilepsy? Parkinsons? Lupus?

Parkinson's. Wikileaks emails show she inquired about Provigil in 2011.

 

[Pens1566]

Parkinson's. Wikileaks emails show she inquired about Provigil in 2011.

This is funny. Even from you.

Hey, how are those Trump polls looking?

 

[nageov3t]

Parkinson's. Wikileaks emails show she inquired about Provigil in 2011.

nevermind that Provigil is used to treat "excessive sleepiness caused by sleep apnea, narcolepsy, or shift work sleep disorder," all of which would make sense for someone doing extensive traveling between vastly different time zones.

Narcolepsy pill may emerge as 'lifestyle' drug of the busy

Provigil: Narcolepsy Drug Becomes New Brain Boost For Professionals

Provigil: The Secret to Success?

Pill that boosts productivity gaining favor in Silicon Valley

 

[werepossum]

You're correct in one respect. They almost never know what kind of strain it was. It is usually considered unimportant to identify the strain unless the person is in really bad shape.

AFAIK pneumonia is transmitted only through coughing and sneezing, the difference between highly and mildly contagious being the likelihood of transmittal through coughing and sneezing.

Also, those photos do not show what you call a "hug." They show her with her hand on the girls shoulder. How did this hand pat suddenly become a "hug?" Anyway, it doesn't matter because AFAIK you cannot give someone pneumonia by putting your hand of their shoulder or by hugging them, unless there is coughing or sneezing involved.

Have you missed Hillary regularly coughing out a lung for the last six months or so? If she does have pneumonia, and this passing out can certainly be symptomatic of that, then chances are excellent that she transmitted it. There are other things though, such as Huma's admission that Hillary is "often confused" and Hillary apparently freezing at the podium - coupled with her continuous medical staff's immediate assumption that she was in a medical crisis - that hint she has deeper, more significant medical issues, and has since her fall/stroke/brain clot thingie.

Way I see it, Hillary getting elected and having to almost immediately step aside for health reasons is the one possible bright spot in this horrid campaign. I don't know much about Kaine, but absolutely none of what I know is bad, which makes him by far the lesser evil among the four principles.

 

[werepossum]

Those glasses are covering up the fact that her eyes have already been removed and replaced with cybernetic implants. Why haven't we seen her eyes in the last 24 hours?!? What are they hiding?!? If you look real close you see the really thin wires they are using to manipulate her facial expressions and make it appear she is waving.

For all we know she has already passed from the Parkinson's that she caught last week while shaking hands and the liburls have desperately re-animated her corpse. Probably using animatronics from Disney.

/s

lol +1

I for one welcome our new animatronic zombie overlord . . .

Weekend at Hillary's.

 

[IronWing]

I don't think it should be made into such a big deal that Hillary has pneumonia. That disease can be nasty, but most people recover from it just fine.

I do think she and her campaign should've been forthcoming about it though. Secrecy is the last thing she should be exercising considering her reputation.

Hey! I'm over 9000!

90 minutes is entirely too long.

 

[Atreus21]

90 minutes is entirely too long.

According to WaPo, evidently so.

 

[Madpacket]

Johnson is not a credible alternative. His monetary policy ideas alone are so insanely bad that they are immediately disqualifying. He basically believes in fantasy economics.

I find the 'both candidates are equally bad' thing to be ridiculous nonsense. If you actually think they are the same can you lay out the bad qualities for each that make them equivalent? My strong suspicion is that when you do that you're going to find that they aren't even close.

I think many New Mexico resident's would disagree with your analysis of his monetary policy. Sure he may have some radical ideas but that's kind of what the US needs given the current economic situation. $20 trillion in debt and counting.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Gary_Johnson.htm
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Johnson


Both Hillary and Trump (or any new President) are really at the mercy of corporation's like Goldman Sachs. Banksters run the US, not government. This should be readily apparent after Obama's track record for the last 8 years and the actions (lack of) of the Federal Reserve. This isn't rocket science. There are many examples of corruption which aren't worth repeating. Perhaps give "The Big Short" a watch if you haven't already.

 

[Jaskalas]

Why did Hillary Clinton lie about her health?

So the campaign chose to lie. The potential reward was considerable: namely, an absence of politically damaging news stories about Clinton's medical condition. But the risk was enormous — and it's blown up in their faces. Because now the story isn't just that Clinton is ill. It's that, once again, she's untrustworthy — and this time about her own health.

Clinton's self-inflicted wound

I can’t say it any better than former Obama aide David Axelrod, who tweeted: “Antibiotics can take care of pneumonia. What's the cure for an unhealthy penchant for privacy that repeatedly creates unnecessary problems?”

 

[realibrad]

Johnson is not a credible alternative. His monetary policy ideas alone are so insanely bad that they are immediately disqualifying. He basically believes in fantasy economics.

I find the 'both candidates are equally bad' thing to be ridiculous nonsense. If you actually think they are the same can you lay out the bad qualities for each that make them equivalent? My strong suspicion is that when you do that you're going to find that they aren't even close.

Looking at his site, I learned nothing about his economic ideas for the most part. Anywhere out that that has a break down of what he is suggesting?

 

[LegendKiller]

I think many New Mexico resident's would disagree with your analysis of his monetary policy. Sure he may have some radical ideas but that's kind of what the US needs given the current economic situation. $20 trillion in debt and counting.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Gary_Johnson.htm
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Johnson


Both Hillary and Trump (or any new President) are really at the mercy of corporation's like Goldman Sachs. Banksters run the US, not government. This should be readily apparent after Obama's track record for the last 8 years and the actions (lack of) of the Federal Reserve. This isn't rocket science. There are many examples of corruption which aren't worth repeating. Perhaps give "The Big Short" a watch if you haven't already.

The big short wasn't corruption. It was mostly blind stupidity.

Why did Hillary Clinton lie about her health?

 

[OutHouse]

She has been far more transparent than Trump on her health. She released a detailed summary from her doctor, whereas Trump released a completely vacuous statement. But the right is spreading rumors that she's not transparent.

thats a joke right?

Imagine an alternative universe in which Clinton had told the public the truth that she was under the weather when she had the series of coughing fits announced and on Friday that she’d just been diagnosed with pneumonia and was going to take a few days off the trail, the public would have been sympathetic. BUUUUUTTT NOOOO lets lie again. seriously does she have a phobia about telling the truth?

 

[ivwshane]

thats a joke right?

Imagine an alternative universe in which Clinton had told the public the truth that she was under the weather when she had the series of coughing fits announced and on Friday that she’d just been diagnosed with pneumonia and was going to take a few days off the trail, the public would have been sympathetic. BUUUUUTTT NOOOO lets lie again. seriously does she have a phobia about telling the truth?

Yes the public would have been sympathetic, the media and the trump campaign? Not so much.

 

[Jaskalas]

Imagine an alternative universe in which Clinton had told the public the truth that she was under the weather when she had the series of coughing fits announced and on Friday that she’d just been diagnosed with pneumonia and was going to take a few days off the trail, the public would have been sympathetic. BUUUUUTTT NOOOO lets lie again. seriously does she have a phobia about telling the truth?

I do not think the public would understand epilepsy. They'd think less of her for it, so they mask with a series of lies. "Nothing wrong". "Curb" "Overheated" "Pneumonia". They're still reaching for any excuse that sticks to mask what I believe is the truth.