Hillary faints @ ground zero?

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HamburgerBoy

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You were under the impression that Gadaffi was a decent guy until you read that story? I am guessing you are a Trump supporter.

Decent? As a human being probably not, but he maintained Libya as one of the most successful and developed nations in Africa even though he was under international pressure since the 70s, much of which was due to American-caused aggression/machismo on the part of Saint Reagan (someone I suppose you loved?).
 

theeedude

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Decent? As a human being probably not, but he maintained Libya as one of the most successful and developed nations in Africa even though he was under international pressure since the 70s, much of which was due to American-caused aggression/machismo on the part of Saint Reagan (someone I suppose you loved?).
I am not going to argue whether removing Gaddafi was good or bad, but comparing Gaddafi and Hillary Clinton is a fine demonstration of the type of crazy Hillary hate I am talking about.
 

HamburgerBoy

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I am not going to argue whether removing Gaddafi was good or bad, but comparing Gaddafi and Hillary Clinton is a fine demonstration of the type of crazy Hillary hate I am talking about.

I didn't compare Gaddafi and Clinton, I compared her to the "modern day Republicans" you mentioned.
 

ozzy702

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I'm the first to say that I don't like any of the candidates, including the fake libertarian Johnson. That being said, with all the available data it's hard to not come to the conclusion that Hillary has some serious health issues that go way beyond this supposed bout of pneumonia. When McShame ran the Democrats and the media was all over his age, his health, etc and yet those same people haven't said a peep about Hillary. It's sad that we have the current crop of candidates to choose from and even more sad that the media has been so one sided and in the bag for a single candidate from day one.
 

JSt0rm

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I'm the first to say that I don't like any of the candidates, including the fake libertarian Johnson. That being said, with all the available data it's hard to not come to the conclusion that Hillary has some serious health issues that go way beyond this supposed bout of pneumonia. When McShame ran the Democrats and the media was all over his age, his health, etc and yet those same people haven't said a peep about Hillary. It's sad that we have the current crop of candidates to choose from and even more sad that the media has been so one sided and in the bag for a single candidate from day one.

do you think tim kaine is as bad as palin?
 

ozzy702

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do you think tim kaine is as bad as palin?

Deflect deflect deflect, isn't that always the name of the game for leftists? I'll answer your question anyway.

In many ways Kaine is worse than Palin and in many he's better. He's a big time wall street insider. He's been in politics much longer than Palin was and is most certainly in many many people's pockets.

And before anyone accuses me of being an mindless, knuckle dragging, uneducated, trailer park living Trump supporter... I'm not a Republican, I graduated from college in 2008, I disagree with Trump on almost every topic and find myself identifying closest with a libertarian mind set. I don't buy into partisan politics and tire of the parroted nonsense that I hear from ardent supporters of either party.
 
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JSt0rm

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YOU graduated from college!? You must be an intelligent fellow. No stupid people have ever gotten a degree from our esteemed higher education.

anyways you can see why some of use were worried about palin being president.
 

pcgeek11

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Looks like more than pneumonia to me. She went down like a sack of potatoes and dragged into the van. She has even been looking poorly on TV of late also.
 

DrDoug

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Looks like more than pneumonia to me. She went down like a sack of potatoes and dragged into the van. She has even been looking poorly on TV of late also.

You just keep hoping for the good news...lol! I had pneumonia three years ago and yes, you can get short of breath and dizzy. In fact I had no idea that I had caught it until I coughed up blood. That can be a bit disconcerting, let me tell you.

Somehow I survived and I'm sure that she will too.
 
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JSt0rm

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Looks like more than pneumonia to me. She went down like a sack of potatoes and dragged into the van. She has even been looking poorly on TV of late also.
The cancer then. They should have u wait at the hospital doors and diagnose everyone who walks in. Saves time and money.
 

ivwshane

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I'm still amazed by how many people we have on this tech forum who seem to be incapable of doing even the most basic research into a subject and their willingness to look like a complete idiot instead of doing a little fact checking.

http://www.lung.org/lung-health-and...ookup/pneumonia/symptoms-causes-and-risk.html

Anyone can get pneumonia. It's commonly a complication of a respiratory infection—especially the flu—but there are more than 30 different causes of the illness. Older adults, children and people with chronic disease, including COPD and asthma, are at high risk for pneumonia.

What Are the Symptoms of Pneumonia?
Pneumonia symptoms can vary from mild to severe, depending on the type of pneumonia you have, your age and health.
The most common symptoms of pneumonia are:

  • Cough (with some pneumonias you may cough up greenish or yellow mucus, or even bloody mucus)
  • Fever, which may be mild or high
  • Shaking chills
  • Shortness of breath, which may only occur when you climb stairs
Additional symptoms include:

  • Sharp or stabbing chest pain that gets worse when you breathe deeply or cough
  • Headache
  • Excessive sweating and clammy skin
  • Loss of appetite, low energy, and fatigue
  • Confusion, especially in older people
Symptoms also can vary, depending on whether your pneumonia is bacterial or viral.

  • In bacterial pneumonia, your temperature may rise as high as 105 degrees F. This pneumonia causes profuse sweating, and rapidly increased breathing and pulse rate. Lips and nailbeds may have a bluish color due to lack of oxygen in the blood. A patient's mental state may be confused or delirious.
  • The initial symptoms of viral pneumonia are the same as influenza symptoms: fever, a dry cough, headache, muscle pain, and weakness. Within 12 to 36 hours, there is increasing breathlessness; the cough becomes worse and produces a small amount of mucus. There is a high fever and there may be blueness of the lips.


I'll be the first to admit it, I'm concerned.
 

MongGrel

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I'll be the first to admit it, I'm concerned.

It's not something to take lightly.

If she recovers and takes Trump out in a debate later I'll be very impressed.

She should be in bed atm.

I'll still never vote for Trump at any rate I suppose, you could probably prop up a dead gopher and I would vote for it over him.
 

Aegeon

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BREAKING: Democratic Party Calling “Emergency Meeting” To Consider Replacing Hillary Over Health/
Incidentally all the links show is some people on the internet are morons.

It literally is too late to consider actually replacing Hillary on the ballot since North Carolina in particular is already doing absentee ballot voting, so the idea they would be meeting over that issue is utterly preposterous. (Since all the voters of a state are doing is picking the electors, there wouldn't be a problem still picking the ticket with Hillary at the top even is a scenario where she or alternately Trump suddenly passed away.)

This does mean though there would be no reasonable or true argument among Democratic Party officials that Kaine would be the nominee in that scenario though, with the only question being who would be the new Vice Presidential pick. (He's designated as the successor and voters are effectively making that decision if they are voting for that ticket in the first place.)
 

brycejones

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Incidentally all the links show is some people on the internet are morons.

It literally is too late to consider actually replacing Hillary on the ballot since North Carolina in particular is already doing absentee ballot voting, so the idea they would be meeting over that issue is utterly preposterous. (Since all the voters of a state are doing is picking the electors, there wouldn't be a problem still picking the ticket with Hillary at the top even is a scenario where she or alternately Trump suddenly passed away.)

This does mean though there would be no reasonable or true argument ayppmong Democratic Party officials that Kaine would be the nominee in that scenario though, with the only question being who would be the new Vice Presidential pick. (He's designated as the successor and voters are effectively making that decision if they are voting for that ticket in the first place.)

Its outhouse, logic and facts typically don't intrude there.
 

brycejones

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Love the glasses.
Now wouldn't we all want a president that looks this cool?


Those glasses are covering up the fact that her eyes have already been removed and replaced with cybernetic implants. Why haven't we seen her eyes in the last 24 hours?!? What are they hiding?!? If you look real close you see the really thin wires they are using to manipulate her facial expressions and make it appear she is waving.

For all we know she has already passed from the Parkinson's that she caught last week while shaking hands and the liburls have desperately re-animated her corpse. Probably using animatronics from Disney.

/s
 
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One thing I can say as a healthy 30 something male that has been hit by severe dehydration (gi bug..couldn't keep fluids in me) is that I've been so weak that I've fallen trying to make it to the bathroom. Got into the ED and took almost 3 litres of IV fluid over an hour and I was bouncing around like a new man. If she really was dehydrated and got IV fluids at the apartment it could explain the quick bounce back.

That being said...I really don't believe that is what is going on here and the Clinton camp really needs to address this openly. It's not going to go away, they aren't going to run the clock out on it, and they have a chance to seize (see what I did there) the opportunity and turn it into a motivational point if spun right. Understand the voting population here and appeal to that age that health is fleeting. Also if there are serious issues, use it as a chance to embrace populations with those issues and make it an awareness topic. Not shovel it under the rug. If they want to appeal to her being more human, it's a chance to do it.
 

PokerGuy

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One thing I can say as a healthy 30 something male that has been hit by severe dehydration (gi bug..couldn't keep fluids in me) is that I've been so weak that I've fallen trying to make it to the bathroom. Got into the ED and took almost 3 litres of IV fluid over an hour and I was bouncing around like a new man. If she really was dehydrated and got IV fluids at the apartment it could explain the quick bounce back.

That being said...I really don't believe that is what is going on here and the Clinton camp really needs to address this openly. It's not going to go away, they aren't going to run the clock out on it, and they have a chance to seize (see what I did there) the opportunity and turn it into a motivational point if spun right. Understand the voting population here and appeal to that age that health is fleeting. Also if there are serious issues, use it as a chance to embrace populations with those issues and make it an awareness topic. Not shovel it under the rug. If they want to appeal to her being more human, it's a chance to do it.

It's funny reading this thread from the start today. Obviously something happened, the videos are very clear that she was lifted into the van with her feet completely off the ground. She wobbled before any attempt to step off the curb, that's completely clear.... but the delusional hard core lefties started with "just gossip!", then went to "she just stumbled", to "it was just a little hot that day", to "pneumonia", and then to "Trump sucks dammit!". All those "conspiracy theories" about her issues just got a whole lot more believable, though we still have no clue what actually ails her. Could be a host of things, some no big deal, some a big deal. The secrecy and attempted cover up are going to hurt the most, it feeds right into her "can't ever tell the truth" problem.

If it were another candidate I would be much more likely to accept pneumonia as the diagnosis without questioning it. Given her track record though, you start thinking: if if really is pneumonia why would they continue to expose others to the contagious disease? Why take her to her daughters instead of a hospital? How do you confirm pneumonia without an xray? Why the neurological examination for someone who has pneumonia? How does pneumonia explain some of the weird stumbling/freezing/confusion we've seen recently?

I think this is a good example of how hubris can hurt a candidate. They should have just played it straight from the start and made it into a positive. Being more forthcoming about issues instead of bashing everyone asking questions as alt-right and conspiracy theorists would have built more credibility...... Now it just comes across as liars trying to cover up a problem and failing to do so.
 

Jhhnn

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It's funny reading this thread from the start today. Obviously something happened, the videos are very clear that she was lifted into the van with her feet completely off the ground. She wobbled before any attempt to step off the curb, that's completely clear.... but the delusional hard core lefties started with "just gossip!", then went to "she just stumbled", to "it was just a little hot that day", to "pneumonia", and then to "Trump sucks dammit!". All those "conspiracy theories" about her issues just got a whole lot more believable, though we still have no clue what actually ails her. Could be a host of things, some no big deal, some a big deal. The secrecy and attempted cover up are going to hurt the most, it feeds right into her "can't ever tell the truth" problem.

If it were another candidate I would be much more likely to accept pneumonia as the diagnosis without questioning it. Given her track record though, you start thinking: if if really is pneumonia why would they continue to expose others to the contagious disease? Why take her to her daughters instead of a hospital? How do you confirm pneumonia without an xray? Why the neurological examination for someone who has pneumonia? How does pneumonia explain some of the weird stumbling/freezing/confusion we've seen recently?

I think this is a good example of how hubris can hurt a candidate. They should have just played it straight from the start and made it into a positive. Being more forthcoming about issues instead of bashing everyone asking questions as alt-right and conspiracy theorists would have built more credibility...... Now it just comes across as liars trying to cover up a problem and failing to do so.

First off, the link in the OP is an anonymous Fox source, something anybody with a fully functioning frontal lobe has learned to distrust. From there, we got more information in a timely manner, all of which Righties view through bullshit smeared goggles because, you know, it's Hillary & she never tells the truth, right? We then move on to the usual attacks phrased as questions loaded with innuendo.

There's no reason to say that Clinton didn't play it straight. We didn't need to know that she'd been diagnosed with pneumonia on Friday. It was reasonable that we should know after she pushed herself too hard on Sunday. It took all of 90 minutes for her to lay it out after the incident in the form of a tweet from her physician.

None of which is good enough, obviously, because she must be hiding something, right? I mean, she always is in the minds of the usual conspiracy theorists & back biters. Why this? Why that? Why didn't she just die & make 'em happy? She'll lose ground to Donald! She won't be ready to debate! Oh, God! Dems will have to name another candidate!

Benghazi!
 

PokerGuy

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First off, the link in the OP is an anonymous Fox source, something anybody with a fully functioning frontal lobe has learned to distrust. From there, we got more information in a timely manner, all of which Righties view through bullshit smeared goggles because, you know, it's Hillary & she never tells the truth, right? We then move on to the usual attacks phrased as questions loaded with innuendo.

There's no reason to say that Clinton didn't play it straight. We didn't need to know that she'd been diagnosed with pneumonia on Friday. It was reasonable that we should know after she pushed herself too hard on Sunday. It took all of 90 minutes for her to lay it out after the incident in the form of a tweet from her physician.

None of which is good enough, obviously, because she must be hiding something, right? I mean, she always is in the minds of the usual conspiracy theorists & back biters. Why this? Why that? Why didn't she just die & make 'em happy? She'll lose ground to Donald! She won't be ready to debate! Oh, God! Dems will have to name another candidate!

Benghazi!

Pretty much the usual ranting raving from a true believer. You are apparently still in the "nothing to see, everything is fine!" camp. That's your prerogative, but the questions are not going to go away and the story is only going to grow each time she freeze up or stumbles or does something weird. They should have gotten ahead of the story IMO, but time will tell if it matters or not.
 
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