Hillary faints @ ground zero?

[abj13]

If it was a non contagious bacteria, and her physician had the C&S results, shy didn't she say what it was, and my point is valid, 72 hours for C&S results, you're guessing for 72 hours.

Half a dozen of her staffers claimed to have pneumonia, that doesn't sound like non infectious bacterial pneumonia.

I'm not going down some insane rabbit hole with you.

This is theatre, and her physician's bought into it.

Once again, you dodge the question, what bacteria that causes lobar pneumonia is contagious?

In fact your comments further demonstrate how very little about pneumonia you actually understand. Sputum culture is no longer required to demonstrate evidence of pneumonia, as a positive imaging finding in an adult is more than sufficient to meet the diagnosis of pneumonia. As it turns out, that is what Secretary Clinton had done.

Most patients with pneumonia are treated with empiric antibiotics, as levofloxacin covers the typical bacterial pathogens in pneumonia.

And what evidence did her staffers also have pneumonia? This time of year, rhinovirus/enterovirus infection is very common (mainly spread by all those children returning to school and spreading it to each other).

But for a third time, what bacteria of the common pathogens of lobar pneumonia are contagious? Here's a hint... none of them are.

 

[Kazukian]

Ahh, perhaps you can tell us which bacteria she was infected with then, please?

 

[abj13]

Ahh, perhaps you can tell us which bacteria she was infected with then, please?

Based on having an acute lobar pneumonia, the common pathogens involved are all non-contagious.

I'll leave it to you to name the pathogens since now this is the 4th time you've dodged the question. What pathogens would be contagious in this situation? Why should she get a MRI too?

Next time, don't talk about things you have zero knowledge about.

 

[Kazukian]

So, 6 of her staff claiming to have pneumonia are lying? Or is her physician lying?

You can't have it both ways.

 

[Kazukian]

Based on having an acute lobar pneumonia, the common pathogens involved are all non-contagious.

I'll leave it to you to name the pathogens since now this is the 4th time you've dodged the question. What pathogens would be contagious in this situation? Why should she get a MRI too?

Next time, don't talk about things you have zero knowledge about.

How should I know? They didn't say what magical non infectious bacterial infection she has.

Do you work in a magic hospital that can do a C&S is less than 72 hours?

I don't care if your House and your patient is God, 72 hours to turn around a C&S, you're doing a best guess till the results are in.

Hammering home the same BS doesn't make you right, I've seen everything cause pneumonia, just depends on the patient's immune system.

 

[abj13]

So, 6 of her staff claiming to have pneumonia are lying? Or is her physician lying?

You can't have it both ways.

I suggest you actually read your lame image that you posted. How does "illness" equate to "pneumonia?"

How should I know? They didn't say what magical non infectious bacterial infection she has.

Do you work in a magic hospital that can do a C&S is less than 72 hours?

Hammering home the same BS doesn't make you right, I've seen everything cause pneumonia, just depends on the patient's immune system.

Oh, I was wondering if you were going to bring up that statement again. Most significant culture growth on cultures will be within 24-48 hours with species identification of bacterial pathogens done the same day (depending on the microbiology lab and whether they use Vitek or MALDI systems etc).

So what slow lab do you know of that take >72 hours?

Once again, what bacterial pathogens that cause acute bacterial lobar pneumonia are contagious? It is a simple question. If she is so contagious like you claim, then you should be easily saying she has bacteria x or y. Yet after several posts, you continually dodge this question.

If you've actually seen pneumonia, what would cause lobar pneumonia that is contagious? For someone to complain about hammering the same BS, you keep reiterating that's she's somehow contagious when you've provided not even a single hypothesis of what bacteria she could have that would be contagious.

There's a reason that the CDC recommends for any patient admitted to the hospital for a routine lobar pneumonia that they do not need to be on contact/droplet/airborne precautions. Why? They are not contagious.

 

[LegendKiller]

Another thing I saw elsewhere. Illary's doctor referred to herself as a "diplomat" but the correct term is "diplomate" in this case. Manufactured statement much?

 

[Kazukian]

And the 1/2 dozen staff members claiming pneumonia?

 

[mikeymikec]

The only newsworthy aspect of Hillary's health that is apparent to me is the new low that politics has found in the pursuit of one-upmanship.

Hopefully UK politics won't follow in the footsteps of American politics. IMO If an (British) party member heard of their opposite number catching pneumonia, I'm pretty sure that the most they would say of it is a canned "I hope they get better soon" statement, maybe along with some amusing, non-offensive quip if possible. Not that I have much respect for most British politicians btw.

As for whether this has any bearing on her ability to lead, perhaps one should ask why either of the leading candidates are so advanced in years for such a high-stress job (I'm surprised that conditions such as pneumonia aren't more common in those who are engaging in activities as consistently draining as political campaigns). Once one has asked that, one should acknowledge that it's a bit of a moot point since neither side are going to substitute for a younger candidate unless they absolutely have to, and so move on to a relevant topic, such as candidates' policies. You know, the reason why they're gunning for that job in the first place.

 

[woolfe9998]

Pneumonias caused by the bacterium Streptococcus pneumoniae, the cause of the old ‘lobar pneumonia’ are not considered contagious, since S. pneumoniae is a ubiquitous organism, present throughout the environment and in many healthy people. One doesn’t catch lobar pneumonia by being around someone who has it, and such patients do not need to be isolated. Similarly, other types of pneumonia — those caused by Staph. aureus, common in sick hospitalized patients; pneumonia caused by pneumocystis carinae, seen in people with AIDS or other severely immune depressed people; or bronchopneumonia, often seen in alcoholics or people immobilized in bed — do not require isolation, since they are all caused by organisms commonly found in the environment and carried by many healthy people.

http://www.healthsearchonline.com/is-pneumonia-contagious/

 

[LegendKiller]

The only newsworthy aspect of Hillary's health that is apparent to me is the new low that politics has found in the pursuit of one-upmanship.

Hopefully UK politics won't follow in the footsteps of American politics. IMO If an (British) party member heard of their opposite number catching pneumonia, I'm pretty sure that the most they would say of it is a canned "I hope they get better soon" statement, maybe along with some amusing, non-offensive quip if possible. Not that I have much respect for most British politicians btw.

As for whether this has any bearing on her ability to lead, perhaps one should ask why either of the leading candidates are so advanced in years for such a high-stress job (I'm surprised that conditions such as pneumonia aren't more common in those who are engaging in activities as consistently draining as political campaigns). Once one has asked that, one should acknowledge that it's a bit of a moot point since neither side are going to substitute for a younger candidate unless they absolutely have to, and so move on to a relevant topic, such as candidates' policies. You know, the reason why they're gunning for that job in the first place.

Lol, look at the lefties all butthurt.

Do you know of historical context, at all?

Andrew Jacksons wife was called a bigamist and his mom a whore in papers and debate. I mean, really, get over your safe space hysteria. This is politics.

Why don't you take some medication for that low-t, shave off that shitty beard (you're no lumberjack), get rid of your skinny jeans and act like a grown up.

 

[Jhhnn]

So, 6 of her staff claiming to have pneumonia are lying? Or is her physician lying?

You can't have it both ways.

Or perhaps there's a lot of misperception, much of it deliberately spread. You know, like the hugging you mentioned that never happened & that you never acknowledged never happened.

 

[woolfe9998]

Lol, look at the lefties all butthurt.

Do you know of historical context, at all?

Andrew Jacksons wife was called a bigamist and his mom a whore in papers and debate. I mean, really, get over your safe space hysteria. This is politics.

Why don't you take some medication for that low-t, shave off that shitty beard (you're no lumberjack), get rid of your skinny jeans and act like a grown up.

Sure, 200 years ago insulting things were said in a campaign. And 300 years ago, we hanged people for witchcraft. I kind of thought we were supposed to have become more civilized by the 21st century...

Calling for civility isn't being "butthurt." But then, you lack civility yourself, so I can see why you'd react with disdain to such a suggestion.

 

[abj13]

And the 1/2 dozen staff members claiming pneumonia?

For someone who has seen many pneumonias, you do like to confuse words of "illness" with pneumonia

 

[Kazukian]

Or perhaps there's a lot of misperception, much of it deliberately spread. You know, like the hugging you mentioned that never happened & that you never acknowledged never happened.

Dude, what planet do you live on? The child hugging was all over the media.

 

[woolfe9998]

Dude, what planet do you live on? The child hugging was all over the media.

Those pics were already posted by pokerguy. They show her touching a child's shoulder, not hugging her. Unless you're thinking of something different. If so, please post the photos or link them.

 

[LegendKiller]

Sure, 200 years ago insulting things were said in a campaign. And 300 years ago, we hanged people for witchcraft. I kind of thought we were supposed to have become more civilized by the 21st century...

Calling for civility isn't being "butthurt." But then, you lack civility yourself, so I can see why you'd react with disdain to such a suggestion.

This is humanity. Barbaric shit happens all of the time. You guys are just fine letting in people that believe in 100% subjugation of women from 200+ years ago in droves. Cognitive dissonance much?

And let's not forget, you guys are sold on slickster bullshit. It's why so many are utterly horrified at Powells "dicking bimbos" comment. How dare he be so crass in reality. That is too barbaric!

well, welcome to life , Nancy. Guys talk like that when they aren't around beta male skinny jeans wearing pussies.

 

[woolfe9998]

This is humanity. Barbaric shit happens all of the time. You guys are just fine letting in people that believe in 100% subjugation of women from 200+ years ago in droves. Cognitive dissonance much?

And let's not forget, you guys are sold on slickster bullshit. It's why so many are utterly horrified at Powells "dicking bimbos" comment. How dare he be so crass in reality. That is too barbaric!

well, welcome to life , Nancy. Guys talk like that when they aren't around beta male skinny jeans wearing pussies.

Ooh, tough talk from an online "badass."

The comment you replied to had nothing whatsoever to do with what people say in private. It had to do with what people who are running for President of the United States say publicly in a campaign.

Like I said, no surprise at all that you are pro-incivility in campaigns. You aren't merely describing reality. You are describing yourself, and you expect presidential candidates to emulate you. Well guess what, this campaign you're getting your wish.

 

[Jhhnn]

Dude, what planet do you live on? The child hugging was all over the media.

The right wing scandal mongering media, yes. You claim it happened. You also mentioned that Clinton is inarguably under surveillance by the media every moment she's out in public.

So, here's the vid, with scurrilous innuendo attached as the narrative-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjWfgSyBNXU

I'm not seeing the alleged hugging. If you're more than a dishonest troll, you'll admit that there was none.

 

[Jaskalas]

I kind of thought we were supposed to have become more civilized by the 21st century...

A near 70 year old Presidential candidate collapsed in public view.
Is that not an issue? We're uncivilized for having this discussion?

 

[woolfe9998]

A near 70 year old Presidential candidate collapsed in public view.
Is that not an issue? We're uncivilized for having this discussion?

Er, who anyone is uncivilized for having a discussion about it? Can you quote someone making that argument?

 

[Jaskalas]

The only newsworthy aspect of Hillary's health that is apparent to me is the new low that politics has found in the pursuit of one-upmanship.

I kind of thought we were supposed to have become more civilized by the 21st century...

Er, who said we are uncivilized for having a discussion about it? Can you quote someone making that argument?

You and mikeymikec, otherwise just what the hell are you going on about?

 

[Kazukian]

The right wing scandal mongering media, yes. You claim it happened. You also mentioned that Clinton is inarguably under surveillance by the media every moment she's out in public.

So, here's the vid, with scurrilous innuendo attached as the narrative-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjWfgSyBNXU

I'm not seeing the alleged hugging. If you're more than a dishonest troll, you'll admit that there was none.

You posted earlier if I posted the video I was concern trolling.

 

[Jhhnn]

A near 70 year old Presidential candidate collapsed in public view.
Is that not an issue? We're uncivilized for having this discussion?

Having *a* discussion is appropriate. The nature of this discussion is not.

Compare & contrast to the discussion when GHWB passed out & upchucked on the president of Japan. Back then, it was "Poor guy! How embarrassing! He's working too hard! Get well soon, George!"

Today, it's "What is she hiding? Is it (various various strings of bullshit speculation & innuendo)? It must be, because she's the hated one, the nefarious Hillary!

 

[LegendKiller]

Ooh, tough talk from an online "badass."

The comment you replied to had nothing whatsoever to do with what people say in private. It had to do with what people who are running for President of the United States say publicly in a campaign.

Like I said, no surprise at all that you are pro-incivility in campaigns. You aren't merely describing reality. You are describing yourself, and you expect presidential candidates to emulate you. Well guess what, this campaign you're getting your wish.

And again, you want to go with the thin veneer. I agree, I do want them to emulate me. Just like you want them to emulate you. You are a vacuous, fake, man bun wearing pussy that would wear illary's pantsuit t-shirt. Thus that is what you want in your candidate. A mom that'll make you hot pockets.