Hillary Denies White House Run In Trouble

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: Rainsford
The only other thing anyone can really say is that Obama is inexperienced, but not only has that not stopped politicians before (if people wanted experienced, they wouldn't have voted for Bush twice)

That seems to me like a good reason to vote for someone with experience. I don't want another lightweight like Bush in place. I want someone who is battle hardened and experienced in place, especially experience fighting for universal healthcare which is my #1 issue.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: senseamp
That seems to me like a good reason to vote for someone with experience. I don't want another lightweight like Bush in place. I want someone who is battle hardened and experienced in place, especially experience fighting for universal healthcare which is my #1 issue.

Yes, a great reason. Because Hillary did such great work on her failed 1994 Health Care Task Force. :laugh:

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: senseamp
That seems to me like a good reason to vote for someone with experience. I don't want another lightweight like Bush in place. I want someone who is battle hardened and experienced in place, especially experience fighting for universal healthcare which is my #1 issue.

Yes, a great reason. Because Hillary did such great work on her failed 1994 Health Care Task Force. :laugh:

And she hasnt done much as a Senator either. Nor has Obama though.

There are only two people that have Foreign Policy experiance. Richardson and McCain.

So the experiance card doesnt really matter. Almost all are on a fairly equal footing when it comes to domestic policy.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

The relevancy is that in a state that's so goddamn white it makes your eyes bleed, voters turned out in droves to vote for Obama...

Didn't I say it was NOT irrelevant? As a good example of relative prejudice there are currently 90 women serving in the congress and 45 or so African Americans. Considering women are 50% of the population and African Americans have half as many delegates with 12.1% of the population should give you some sort of idea that both groups are discriminated against. (yes I realize you can be both black and a woman at the same time but I believe my point still stands).

So if you're trying to tell me how historic it was that one group that is discriminated against was able to defeat another group that is discriminated against in a primary for the party that prides itself on its egalitarian nature that's fine. Just don't expect me to be that excited about it. Anyone trying to draw some far reaching conclusions based upon Iowa is stupid. Or in Pabster's case, so excited about his Hillary hating that he posts a new thread bashing Hillary every time she gets a parking ticket.

I did notice that neither of you addressed the fact that 3 out of the 4 people who have been elected president since 1980 lost Iowa when they were contested there. The funny thing is that I'm not even a big Hillary supporter, yet I find myself continually having to come here and head off Pabster's circle jerks because of the sheer volume of wrong information and ignorant commentary he generates.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Wreckem
And she hasnt done much as a Senator either. Nor has Obama though.

No, neither one has much experience. But it looks much worse for a lady who sat in the WH for 8 years and has been a Senator for 7. That's 15 years of do-nothing partisan politics-as-usual, and people are sick and tired of it. Obama hasn't been in there long enough to be completely corrupted.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: senseamp
That seems to me like a good reason to vote for someone with experience. I don't want another lightweight like Bush in place. I want someone who is battle hardened and experienced in place, especially experience fighting for universal healthcare which is my #1 issue.

Yes, a great reason. Because Hillary did such great work on her failed 1994 Health Care Task Force. :laugh:

Yeah, so what? She has experience, and she learned from her mistakes, that's why her SCHIp taskforce was successful. I prefer that to someone who is going to start the learning process from scratch.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: Harvey
Hey, Pabster -- Why does a brown nosed neocon Bushwhacko sycophant like you even give a sh8 about who the Democratic nominee will be? All of them oppose your TRAITOR IN CHIEF and his criminal cabal of LIARS, TRAITORS and MURDERERS as much as you support them. 😕

Looks like the lack of ANY Republican candidate worth jack shit has left you with too much time on your hands. :laugh:

The reason why Republican's care, is they don't want another Clinton in the White Houe. Many republicans, atleast off the record, will tell you it is next to impossible for a Republican to win the White House this year and that the ideal candidate isnt someone who can win, but someone who can bring out the vote and minimize House and Senate losses.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Rainsford
I like Obama, I think he's the best candidate on the Democratic side. But I can't help also liking him because I think he has a good chance of beating the Republicans.

I like him too, despite the fact that I disagree with some of his politics.

I could care less if he's going to be tougher against the GOP nominee than Hillary. At least we can spend 2008 debating and discussing real issues, instead of reliving the 90's and the endless skeletons and scandal that Hillary brings to the table.

I agree, I'd love to see real debate on real issues in 2008. I just honestly wonder how ready the "system" is for that kind of election. I imagine a lot of voters would like it, after the ridiculous goat rodeo of the 2004 elections...I just wonder if the folks running the respective camps are going to just stand around looking stupid when it comes time to actually run a real election.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: senseamp
That seems to me like a good reason to vote for someone with experience. I don't want another lightweight like Bush in place. I want someone who is battle hardened and experienced in place, especially experience fighting for universal healthcare which is my #1 issue.

Yes, a great reason. Because Hillary did such great work on her failed 1994 Health Care Task Force. :laugh:

Yeah, so what? She has experience, and she learned from her mistakes, that's why her SCHIp taskforce was successful. I prefer that to someone who is going to start the learning process from scratch.

Honestly, what experience does she have aside from political mud-slinging? What is all this experience in?

 

[Dari]

It's been almost four hours and not one reply? What's her experience besides mud-slinging?

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: Dari
It's been almost four hours and not one reply? What's her experience besides mud-slinging?

The experience she states such as


" Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton was in Iowa today arguing she has the experience to lead the economy out of a downturn and that signs of economic trouble ahead make it risky to elect a different candidate....
''There is one job we can't afford on-the-job training for --our next president. That could be the costliest job training in history,'' Clinton said, according to excerpts released in advance by her campaign. ''Every day spent learning the ropes is another day of rising costs, mounting deficits and growing anxiety for our families. And they cannot afford to keep waiting.''"


From her speech after Iowa..

So thats the experience shes riding on..

of course Obama pointed out

" I am happy to compare my experiences with hers when it comes to the economy," Obama said. "My understanding was that she wasn't Treasury Secretary in the Clinton Administration."

"I think she's a capable person. She's been a senator, like I have," he added. "But rather than just assert experience, if she has specific differences with me with respect to economic policy, I'm happy to have those debates. But this general notion of experience based on longevity in Washington I don't think is sufficient.""


She lives in a world of smoke and mirrors.

 

[Noobtastic]

IT'S IOWA FFS!!

There are still 49 other states to go....

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: Noobtastic
IT'S IOWA FFS!!

There are still 49 other states to go....

Shes feeling the pressure from just one state 😛

 

[Noobtastic]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Noobtastic
IT'S IOWA FFS!!

There are still 49 other states to go....

Shes feeling the pressure from just one state 😛

Yeah but it's f**king Iowa.

Who cares??

In the rare events that people request me to recite the 50 states, Iowa is the one I always miss. That's how f**king gay it is.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: Noobtastic

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Noobtastic
IT'S IOWA FFS!!

There are still 49 other states to go....

Shes feeling the pressure from just one state 😛

Yeah but it's f**king Iowa.

Who cares??

In the rare events that people request me to recite the 50 states, Iowa is the one I always miss. That's how f**king gay it is.

There are polls in NH showing her trailing by as much as 10 points. If she tanks out in both states by double digits she's in huge trouble. I haven't seen a national poll conducted since Iowa but I wouldn't be surprised to see her lead eroding by the day. I'd bet that if she loses big in NH she'll lose her national lead all together.

Guess we'll see.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: senseamp
That seems to me like a good reason to vote for someone with experience. I don't want another lightweight like Bush in place. I want someone who is battle hardened and experienced in place, especially experience fighting for universal healthcare which is my #1 issue.

Yes, a great reason. Because Hillary did such great work on her failed 1994 Health Care Task Force. :laugh:

Yeah, so what? She has experience, and she learned from her mistakes, that's why her SCHIp taskforce was successful. I prefer that to someone who is going to start the learning process from scratch.

Honestly, what experience does she have aside from political mud-slinging? What is all this experience in?

Expanding healthcare to Americans. No one has more experience fighting for it than Hillary Clinton.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: senseamp
That seems to me like a good reason to vote for someone with experience. I don't want another lightweight like Bush in place. I want someone who is battle hardened and experienced in place, especially experience fighting for universal healthcare which is my #1 issue.

Yes, a great reason. Because Hillary did such great work on her failed 1994 Health Care Task Force. :laugh:

Yeah, so what? She has experience, and she learned from her mistakes, that's why her SCHIp taskforce was successful. I prefer that to someone who is going to start the learning process from scratch.

Honestly, what experience does she have aside from political mud-slinging? What is all this experience in?

Expanding healthcare to Americans. No one has more experience fighting for it than Hillary Clinton.

I'm sorry you must've not gotten the memo. Hillary, the candidate with 35 years of "experience" is now running on the platform of change.....But what does it matter, you, being strongly anti Iraq war, would never vote for someone that plans on keeping us in Iraq for at least another 4 years right?

 

[Pliablemoose]

LOL here's Hillary taking credit for 35 years of public service again and managing to piss off everyone in the process http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07u6uffKvpA

 

[dawp]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Looks like a severe case of HCDS to me Doctor, maybe even a fatal if not treated.

Too late. His brain is already gone. :laugh:

kinda reminds me of the scene from Scanners where the guys head explodes(damn that was a bad movie, kinda suits Papsmear tho :laugh:

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
LOL here's Hillary taking credit for 35 years of public service again and managing to piss off everyone in the process http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07u6uffKvpA

Does she even understand what change actually is?

 

[Dari]

There's a belief that people can get away with really big lies but not the small ones. I think she's stretched that theory to its limits. All these outright lies are disgusting and unbecoming of a real leader.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: JD50
Does she even understand what change actually is?

Of course not. She only understands poll numbers and input from her focus groups.

Then again, "Change" is a word that everyone qualifies differently. At any rate, her pretending to be the "Agent Of Change" is laughable indeed.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
LOL here's Hillary taking credit for 35 years of public service again and managing to piss off everyone in the process http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07u6uffKvpA

Does she even understand what change actually is?

What are you saying JD50, that sitting on the board of Wal Mart from 86-92 isn't public service?

You're an ovary hating, Hillary basher and you no longer have credibility in my eyes :|

😉

 

[Pabster]

Saturday Night Fights: Obama And Edwards Tag-Team Clinton

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

The relevancy is that in a state that's so goddamn white it makes your eyes bleed, voters turned out in droves to vote for Obama...

Didn't I say it was NOT irrelevant?

You skipped english class the day they talked about double negatives in one sentence?