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Genx87

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
As a life-long Democrat, I believe that Hillary or Obama running as the final candidate will ensure a Repig victory in the 08 presidential race. Far too many people in this country are not ready for a woman president, nor one of ANY minority, be it race, or religion.
We got to have us a "good-ol White Boy" as our leader...

Because it obviously cant be their political leanings, has to be sexism or racism
:disgust:


 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
OMG, she knew about Flowers and forgave Bill. That cold hearted, conniving bitch!! She deserves to <fill in blank>!!
Yea, but she lied about knowing.
She also made up a story about how she got her name.
And many who hear the story about how her and Bill met think it was made up as well.

See my sig if you want to see some lies that matter in the grand scheme of things.

If that's all they have then it's just kool aid for people like you, but suck it up if you think it makes a difference. Myself, I find it amusing that people even care about that ancient history and anybody who buys into this wasn't going to consider voting for her in the first place.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: jman19
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Shivetya
Originally posted by: Genx87
You what is funny and not many mentioned this in the msm. But that debate the dems had last week, Clintons response to a question about a terrorist attack on US soil sounded an awful like Bush. She said we would go after who ever did this and hold states harboring the enemy accountable. I was waiting for her to bust out the axis of evil speech.

and you think the other candidates who are not confident of their ability to win would be any different once they won?

Obama came off as a guy of inaction. Basically said we should explore why these nutjobs want to kill us and try to talk to them.

So I guess at least one of them is different.

/shrug

I thought he said that we would have to respond quickly, but spend time afterwards understanding the reasons for the attack and why there was an intelligence breakdown. Maybe that was a diff candidate, but I'm pretty sure that was Obama's response.

The clip I saw clearly had him waning on using force against the people who attacked us.


 

GoPackGo

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Shivetya
Originally posted by: Genx87
You what is funny and not many mentioned this in the msm. But that debate the dems had last week, Clintons response to a question about a terrorist attack on US soil sounded an awful like Bush. She said we would go after who ever did this and hold states harboring the enemy accountable. I was waiting for her to bust out the axis of evil speech.

and you think the other candidates who are not confident of their ability to win would be any different once they won?

Obama came off as a guy of inaction. Basically said we should explore why these nutjobs want to kill us and try to talk to them.

So I guess at least one of them is different.

/shrug

Because we are infidels. Really, in there eyes its change to their way or die...no room to talk...
 

homercles337

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Originally posted by: TheAdvocate
Is there really anyone besides right wing talking heads and their legions of drones that actually wants Hillary to run for President? I hear 10x more news about her running from that camp than from her supposed base.

Its called misogyny.
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
OMG, she knew about Flowers and forgave Bill. That cold hearted, conniving bitch!! She deserves to <fill in blank>!!
Yea, but she lied about knowing.
She also made up a story about how she got her name.
And many who hear the story about how her and Bill met think it was made up as well.
See my sig if you want to see some lies that matter in the grand scheme of things.

If that's all they have then it's just kool aid for people like you, but suck it up if you think it makes a difference. Myself, I find it amusing that people even care about that ancient history and anybody who buys into this wasn't going to consider voting for her in the first place.
If she is willing to lie about something as unimportant as how she got her name do you think she would lie about something important? Hmmmm

Maybe someone should ask her a tough question. How about ?Hillary is it true that your 1993 healthcare plan made it a criminal offense for Doctors to provide health care outside of the government system??

BTW I don't see any lies in your sig. Maybe you need to learn the meaning of the word. Ask Harvey, he is the definitive source on that.
 

Lemon law

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The Republican have been trying to smear the Clintons since day one----and a good deal of it is made up by paid political operatives. So far very little of it has stuck.

And earth to the GOP---earth to GOP---you have gotten this country into a heck of a jam---where are your candidates who actually have ideas on how to get us out of the jam.

The entire Republican field thus far for 08 are enough to gag a gaggle of maggots---with not one coming up with a splinter of being Presidential timber---even if they have to totally reinvent themselves or claim newfound psychic powers.

And a hint for all Presidential candidates---its a very very long time until the election of 11/08---and if any of you hold an elective position---you need to be be on the job and pushing legislation that will have a positive impact----don't tell us how great you are---------SHOW US.

Knocking someone else down elevates no one unless it actually involves impeaching GWB&co.---and then its part of a SHOW US.
 

piasabird

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The press presented with a scandal will probably run with it.

I guess if I was running for president I would rather she have a scandal closer to the election. Hillary has so much baggage that it is just a matter of time till the questions start coming up.

Only fellow democrats can benefit from a scandal if it comes out right now. However, if she survives primaries and then a scandal comes out and the democratic candidate has a scandal that would benefit the Republicans a lot more.
 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
OMG, she knew about Flowers and forgave Bill. That cold hearted, conniving bitch!! She deserves to <fill in blank>!!
Yea, but she lied about knowing.
She also made up a story about how she got her name.
And many who hear the story about how her and Bill met think it was made up as well.
See my sig if you want to see some lies that matter in the grand scheme of things.

If that's all they have then it's just kool aid for people like you, but suck it up if you think it makes a difference. Myself, I find it amusing that people even care about that ancient history and anybody who buys into this wasn't going to consider voting for her in the first place.
If she is willing to lie about something as unimportant as how she got her name do you think she would lie about something important? Hmmmm

Maybe someone should ask her a tough question. How about ?Hillary is it true that your 1993 healthcare plan made it a criminal offense for Doctors to provide health care outside of the government system??

BTW I don't see any lies in your sig. Maybe you need to learn the meaning of the word. Ask Harvey, he is the definitive source on that.

You don't see any lies in my sig? Gee, I get PM's about it all the time and most are laughing there ass off about it. Troll on.

BTW, where are you a professor at again?? :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
 

Starbuck1975

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The Republican have been trying to smear the Clintons since day one----and a good deal of it is made up by paid political operatives. So far very little of it has stuck.
Bernstein is hardly a paid political operative of the Republicans.

And earth to the GOP---earth to GOP---you have gotten this country into a heck of a jam---where are your candidates who actually have ideas on how to get us out of the jam. The entire Republican field thus far for 08 are enough to gag a gaggle of maggots---with not one coming up with a splinter of being Presidential timber---even if they have to totally reinvent themselves or claim newfound psychic powers. And a hint for all Presidential candidates---its a very very long time until the election of 11/08---and if any of you hold an elective position---you need to be be on the job and pushing legislation that will have a positive impact----don't tell us how great you are---------SHOW US.
That entire statement equally applies to the Democrats.

Knocking someone else down elevates no one unless it actually involves impeaching GWB&co.---and then its part of a SHOW US.
Ironic comment, given that the Democrats only platform as of late seems to be knocking on Bush.



 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
Ironic comment, given that the Democrats only platform as of late seems to be knocking on Bush.

I know.... he is an easy target isn't he. Don't blame me, I didn't vote for him.
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
The Republican have been trying to smear the Clintons since day one----and a good deal of it is made up by paid political operatives. So far very little of it has stuck.

And earth to the GOP---earth to GOP---you have gotten this country into a heck of a jam---where are your candidates who actually have ideas on how to get us out of the jam.

The entire Republican field thus far for 08 are enough to gag a gaggle of maggots---with not one coming up with a splinter of being Presidential timber---even if they have to totally reinvent themselves or claim newfound psychic powers.

And a hint for all Presidential candidates---its a very very long time until the election of 11/08---and if any of you hold an elective position---you need to be be on the job and pushing legislation that will have a positive impact----don't tell us how great you are---------SHOW US.

Knocking someone else down elevates no one unless it actually involves impeaching GWB&co.---and then its part of a SHOW US.


What world are you living in where Bernstein is in the same company as paid political operatives of the Republican party and where its the Republicans, not the Democrats, that spend all of their time talking about how horrible this administration has been and has no plans for the future?

I think both parties are out of control but your post is just ridiculous.
 

Starbuck1975

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I know.... he is an easy target isn't he. Don't blame me, I didn't vote for him.
True, although doesn't speak too highly of the Democrats if their source of political pride is hitting the easy, 50 meter target. Bush will be gone soon enough.
 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
I know.... he is an easy target isn't he. Don't blame me, I didn't vote for him.
True, although doesn't speak too highly of the Democrats if their source of political pride is hitting the easy, 50 meter target. Bush will be gone soon enough.

Bush will be gone, but his legacy will live on and that is why he gets blasted by everyone.

Blasting him is alot more fun then defending him. :D

When the right gets done bringing up Clinton then maybe (and I stress maybe) 8 years after that the left will forget about Bush?
 

manowar821

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Oh god, partisan political career attacks, GO! You know, she has a LOT to do in order to catch up to the bush admin.. What with the pointless murdering of soldiers and iraqis, and such.
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
I know.... he is an easy target isn't he. Don't blame me, I didn't vote for him.
True, although doesn't speak too highly of the Democrats if their source of political pride is hitting the easy, 50 meter target. Bush will be gone soon enough.

Bush will be gone, but his legacy will live on and that is why he gets blasted by everyone.

Blasting him is alot more fun then defending him. :D

When the right gets done bringing up Clinton then maybe (and I stress maybe) 8 years after that the left will forget about Bush?


The difference is that the Republicans don't run on the "we aren't Clinton platform". Take a look at the post above mine for a perfect example, the left is still campaigning against GWB, even though he isn't running again.

Really though, I don't see a problem with either side pointing towards a previous administration, you can't just ignore what happened in the past. But the Democrats obsession with GWB is getting a little old.
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: manowar821
Oh god, partisan political career attacks, GO! You know, she has a LOT to do in order to catch up to the bush admin.. What with the pointless murdering of soldiers and iraqis, and such.

NEWSFLASH!!!! GWB is not running for President this time. But go ahead and keep that up, Hillary voted for this war too.

 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
I know.... he is an easy target isn't he. Don't blame me, I didn't vote for him.
True, although doesn't speak too highly of the Democrats if their source of political pride is hitting the easy, 50 meter target. Bush will be gone soon enough.

Bush will be gone, but his legacy will live on and that is why he gets blasted by everyone.

Blasting him is alot more fun then defending him. :D

When the right gets done bringing up Clinton then maybe (and I stress maybe) 8 years after that the left will forget about Bush?


The difference is that the Republicans don't run on the "we aren't Clinton platform". Take a look at the post above mine for a perfect example, the left is still campaigning against GWB, even though he isn't running again.

Really though, I don't see a problem with either side pointing towards a previous administration, you can't just ignore what happened in the past. But the Democrats obsession with GWB is getting a little old.

It seems to me nobody has run on the "we aren't CLinton platform". They might run on the "we are like Clinton platform" though? I sure don't see any one running on the "we're like GWB&Co platofrm", that's for sure.

And the people after Bush have good reason to be after him IMO. For one thing he's still in power and still screwing things up, not to mention being the most corrupt administration I've ever been witness too.
 

manowar821

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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: manowar821
Oh god, partisan political career attacks, GO! You know, she has a LOT to do in order to catch up to the bush admin.. What with the pointless murdering of soldiers and iraqis, and such.

NEWSFLASH!!!! GWB is not running for President this time. But go ahead and keep that up, Hillary voted for this war too.

That's fine, actually. I never said I liked her, either. However, my money is on the theory that she's just saying that to attract more people, but in actuality, would never have started a war with Iraq if she had been in power instead of the bush admin.

Just like the bush admin having claimed to be pro civil-union, but then never following through with that.

She's lying, she would never had even thought to start a war with Iraq for no reason, that's the job of the neo-cons.

This isn't some kind of trendy-cool sh1t. The constant badmouthing of the bush admin is an attempt to make you people realize the stupid F-ING mistake you made for voting for a dirty rotten pig admin to run our country two times in a row.

Don't vote for another warmongering bigot, use the bush admin as a perfect example for what NOT to do.
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: manowar821
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: manowar821
Oh god, partisan political career attacks, GO! You know, she has a LOT to do in order to catch up to the bush admin.. What with the pointless murdering of soldiers and iraqis, and such.

NEWSFLASH!!!! GWB is not running for President this time. But go ahead and keep that up, Hillary voted for this war too.

That's fine, actually. I never said I liked her, either. However, my money is on the theory that she's just saying that to attract more people, but in actuality, would never have started a war with Iraq if she had been in power instead of the bush admin.

Just like the bush admin having claimed to be pro civil-union, but then never following through with that.

She's lying, she would never had even thought to start a war with Iraq for no reason, that's the job of the neo-cons.

This isn't some kind of trendy-cool sh1t. The constant badmouthing of the bush admin is an attempt to make you people realize the stupid F-ING mistake you made for voting for a dirty rotten pig admin to run our country two times in a row.

Don't vote for another warmongering bigot, use the bush admin as a perfect example for what NOT to do.

Nice rant....Anyways, I hope that you refrain from voting for anyone that voted for this war, if not then you'd be a hypocrite.

 

manowar821

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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: manowar821
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: manowar821
Oh god, partisan political career attacks, GO! You know, she has a LOT to do in order to catch up to the bush admin.. What with the pointless murdering of soldiers and iraqis, and such.

NEWSFLASH!!!! GWB is not running for President this time. But go ahead and keep that up, Hillary voted for this war too.

That's fine, actually. I never said I liked her, either. However, my money is on the theory that she's just saying that to attract more people, but in actuality, would never have started a war with Iraq if she had been in power instead of the bush admin.

Just like the bush admin having claimed to be pro civil-union, but then never following through with that.

She's lying, she would never had even thought to start a war with Iraq for no reason, that's the job of the neo-cons.

This isn't some kind of trendy-cool sh1t. The constant badmouthing of the bush admin is an attempt to make you people realize the stupid F-ING mistake you made for voting for a dirty rotten pig admin to run our country two times in a row.

Don't vote for another warmongering bigot, use the bush admin as a perfect example for what NOT to do.

Nice rant....Anyways, I hope that you refrain from voting for anyone that voted for this war, if not then you'd be a hypocrite.

I wouldn't even think of it.
 

Thump553

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Originally posted by: Genx87
America has this almost sadistic love affair with the Clintons. They are like Reagan, they can do no wrong.

About the only thing imo Bernstein can show to the world that will derail her, is if he has video proof of her robbing a bank brandishing a gun.

?? Listen to Rush and his ilk much? They foam at the mouth at the mention of Hillary's name, having apolextic fits about her. OTOH, I personally can name many, many things Reagan got wrong. Each has their own groups they appeal to, and there is little or no overlap.

I'll wait to see what these alleged disclosures will be, and what independent verification exists.

 

palehorse

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Originally posted by: manowar821
Oh god, partisan political career attacks, GO! You know, she has a LOT to do in order to catch up to the bush admin.. What with the pointless murdering of soldiers and iraqis, and such.
Giver her time.. she'll "catch up," trust me. ;)

FYI, Bush is not running for President in '08... and any candidate whose sole platform is "I'm better than Bush" will lose the '08 election.

didnt that wench vote for the war too? oh yeah.... GAME ON!

I'm tellin' ya.. if Clinton is the best the Dem party can offer this country, then they are absolutely screwed. The Republicans should be able to defeat her without much effort.
 

marincounty

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Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: manowar821
Oh god, partisan political career attacks, GO! You know, she has a LOT to do in order to catch up to the bush admin.. What with the pointless murdering of soldiers and iraqis, and such.
Giver her time.. she'll "catch up," trust me. ;)

FYI, Bush is not running for President in '08... and any candidate whose sole platform is "I'm better than Bush" will lose the '08 election.

didnt that wench vote for the war too? oh yeah.... GAME ON!

I'm tellin' ya.. if Clinton is the best the Dem party can offer this country, then they are absolutely screwed. The Republicans should be able to defeat her without much effort.
Yeah, the Republiklans should be able to defeat Hillary without much effort. The question is, with who? Rudy, the pro-abortion pro-gun control candidate? McCain, the senile pro-illegal immigrant candidate? Or is it Romney, the flip-flopping fake hunter?
The Republiklans should be able to defeat a liberal woman Democrat, but unfortunately they have some of the weakest candidates in history. Good luck with that.
 

Fern

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Originally posted by: Socio
Watergate reporter demolishes Hillary?s career story

Drawing on a trove of private papers from Hillary Clinton?s best friend, the legendary Watergate journalist Carl Bernstein is to publish a hard-hitting and intimate portrait of the 2008 presidential candidate, which will reveal a number of ?discrepancies? in her official story.

Looks like Hillary's 08 bid is about to go bust!

If proven she has lied about her past not only will the Republicans have a field day with it her Democratic opponents? will to I think her goose it about to be cooked!

Might be a good idea to wait and see what revelations this book actually contains b4 drawing any conclusions.

This may be mostly hype - remember this guy (and the publisher) is trying to sell books for a profit. This could be mostly marketing.

If there are devastating revolations, Berstein and the Dems would want this published before the Dem primaries, not after (assuming she would win the primary).

Fern