Highway patrol now catching speeders from semis

[compman25]

Originally posted by: BoomerD
Washington State used to have all kinds of off-beat undercover radar cars at their disposal...old pick-ups, cars of all makes, models, and years, even an old (58?) panel truck...Personally, I prefer Kahleeforneeya's tactics, where they (CHP) only used marked patrol cars (although they may NOT be the usual B&W units you're used to) and have set ground rules they have to abide by. Kind of makes participation in "the game" a bit more fair...BUT, they still are active in the "autograph exchange program", and do their share of fund raising...

Yeah, like the Volvos they tested in Northern CA on I-5. And for commercial vehicles they don't always use marked cars.

 

[BoomerD]

IIRC, the Volvos were supposed to be for high-speed pursuit (go figure) but were fully marked vehicles. I've driven commercial vehicles all over Kahleeforneeya, and have never seen a commercial cop in an unmarked vehicle...and I've had a few of them stop me...(they HATE cranes...always too big, too heavy, too slow, but USUALLY are exactly to their permitted configuration weights)...

 

[compuwiz1]

Originally posted by: paulxcook

The Kansas Highway Patrol last week began spying on motorists from privately owned big rig trucks. As part of a new, federally funded effort, a state trooper sits in the passenger seat of each truck and operates a set of five video cameras and a radar gun to identify motorists to ticket. The trooper will then contact a patrol car hidden nearby to issue the citation. The program is expected to generate hundreds of thousands of dollars in ticket revenue over the next six weeks.

The self-righteous among us can pound sand. #1, I don't believe for a second that you don't speed. #2, this new initiative isn't about making roads safer. It's about making money. Yellow gets a high safety rating, the state gets more cash from tickets. It's not about public well-being.

Apparently, you are one of the age, where your brains still reside below your belt. Spare us "the man is out to get me" crap.

 

[KingofCamelot]

Originally posted by: Rickten
this is not about making the roads safer, simply more revenue. Same thing with the speed cameras on some of arizona's freeways. The locals know exactly where the cameras are, so they speed then slow down, speed then slow down. Creates an unsafe situation, not to mention the strobe light flash that blinds you momentarily. Its all about the money not making the roads safer.

You do realize the two go hand in hand right?

Speeding tickets should, ideally, cause people to not speed as much, which in turn makes the roads safer.

Giving out more tickets also creates more money, so its a win-win situation.

Either way, the law is being enforced. If you think thats a bad idea, then please go die in a fire. Kthxbye.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: paulxcook

The Kansas Highway Patrol last week began spying on motorists from privately owned big rig trucks. As part of a new, federally funded effort, a state trooper sits in the passenger seat of each truck and operates a set of five video cameras and a radar gun to identify motorists to ticket. The trooper will then contact a patrol car hidden nearby to issue the citation. The program is expected to generate hundreds of thousands of dollars in ticket revenue over the next six weeks.

The self-righteous among us can pound sand. #1, I don't believe for a second that you don't speed. #2, this new initiative isn't about making roads safer. It's about making money. Yellow gets a high safety rating, the state gets more cash from tickets. It's not about public well-being.

You better believe I speed. I drive a Civic, and I manage to get less than 30 mpg. And I've gotten tickets. And I deserved them. But I have no problem with the Kansas Highway Patrol riding in semis. It's no different from any other effort to hide. They could sit on an overpass and nail people all day long.

I do have a problem with people who call cops pigs though.

 

[paulxcook]

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Originally posted by: paulxcook

The Kansas Highway Patrol last week began spying on motorists from privately owned big rig trucks. As part of a new, federally funded effort, a state trooper sits in the passenger seat of each truck and operates a set of five video cameras and a radar gun to identify motorists to ticket. The trooper will then contact a patrol car hidden nearby to issue the citation. The program is expected to generate hundreds of thousands of dollars in ticket revenue over the next six weeks.

The self-righteous among us can pound sand. #1, I don't believe for a second that you don't speed. #2, this new initiative isn't about making roads safer. It's about making money. Yellow gets a high safety rating, the state gets more cash from tickets. It's not about public well-being.

Apparently, you are one of the age, where your brains still reside below your belt. Spare us "the man is out to get me" crap.

"The man" is out to get you so he can make $150 for the state. My point has little to do with anyone trying to "get" anyone else. It has to do with this fund raiser being a poorly-disguised safety initiative.

And your post is poorly written garbage. Try to make sense, please.

 

[SparkyJJO]

Don't speed, no problem.

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: BoomerD
Washington State used to have all kinds of off-beat undercover radar cars at their disposal...old pick-ups, cars of all makes, models, and years, even an old (58?) panel truck...Personally, I prefer Kahleeforneeya's tactics, where they (CHP) only used marked patrol cars (although they may NOT be the usual B&W units you're used to) and have set ground rules they have to abide by. Kind of makes participation in "the game" a bit more fair...BUT, they still are active in the "autograph exchange program", and do their share of fund raising...

how can people be this stupid? It isn't a game and it isn't meant to be fair. Speed? Get a ticket. They are just improving their chance of catching you. It isn't right to speed just because you aren't caught while you are doing it. This is no different than employing smarter ways of catching shoplifters. Accept the responsibility of the crime if you choose to commit it. I'm glad the state will make money off of people speeding because a) you deserve a ticket if you speed and b) it will make the road safer even if it is only a very small amount. I very rarely speed, and sometimes it is by accident (didn't know the speed limit). I'm not holier-than-thou, but it really annoys me when people think they are somehow above the law simply because they feel like they should be.

 

[compuwiz1]

Originally posted by: paulxcook

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Originally posted by: paulxcook

The Kansas Highway Patrol last week began spying on motorists from privately owned big rig trucks. As part of a new, federally funded effort, a state trooper sits in the passenger seat of each truck and operates a set of five video cameras and a radar gun to identify motorists to ticket. The trooper will then contact a patrol car hidden nearby to issue the citation. The program is expected to generate hundreds of thousands of dollars in ticket revenue over the next six weeks.

The self-righteous among us can pound sand. #1, I don't believe for a second that you don't speed. #2, this new initiative isn't about making roads safer. It's about making money. Yellow gets a high safety rating, the state gets more cash from tickets. It's not about public well-being.

Apparently, you are one of the age, where your brains still reside below your belt. Spare us "the man is out to get me" crap.

"The man" is out to get you so he can make $150 for the state. My point has little to do with anyone trying to "get" anyone else. It has to do with this fund raiser being a poorly-disguised safety initiative.

And your post is poorly written garbage. Try to make sense, please.

Poorly written or not, if you don't like what's going on, how about not speeding? Seems pretty simple to me. No worries. 😉

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: paulxcook

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Originally posted by: paulxcook

The Kansas Highway Patrol last week began spying on motorists from privately owned big rig trucks. As part of a new, federally funded effort, a state trooper sits in the passenger seat of each truck and operates a set of five video cameras and a radar gun to identify motorists to ticket. The trooper will then contact a patrol car hidden nearby to issue the citation. The program is expected to generate hundreds of thousands of dollars in ticket revenue over the next six weeks.

The self-righteous among us can pound sand. #1, I don't believe for a second that you don't speed. #2, this new initiative isn't about making roads safer. It's about making money. Yellow gets a high safety rating, the state gets more cash from tickets. It's not about public well-being.

Apparently, you are one of the age, where your brains still reside below your belt. Spare us "the man is out to get me" crap.

"The man" is out to get you so he can make $150 for the state. My point has little to do with anyone trying to "get" anyone else. It has to do with this fund raiser being a poorly-disguised safety initiative.

And your post is poorly written garbage. Try to make sense, please.

You started a sentence with And and you want to talk about poorly written? What about the comma between sense and please? Picking out grammar problems on a forum is really stupid. Do you see how annoying it is when someone does it to you?

 

[KingofCamelot]

Originally posted by: paulxcook
It has to do with this fund raiser being a poorly-disguised safety initiative.

Would you consider any speed enforcement program to be a safety initiative or are they all out to get your money?

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
I don't see what the big deal is.. a big yellow truck is pretty easy to spot, so don't speed around them!

the trucks themselves are not yellow, just the name of the trucking line. though it would be funny to see a giant school bus

Um... Yes the Yellow Trucking semis are yellow in color. The trailers aren't, but the cabs are.

ZV

 

[compman25]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
I don't see what the big deal is.. a big yellow truck is pretty easy to spot, so don't speed around them!

the trucks themselves are not yellow, just the name of the trucking line. though it would be funny to see a giant school bus

Um... Yes the Yellow Trucking semis are yellow in color. The trailers aren't, but the cabs are.

ZV

Aren't they really orange?

And it's a good thing they aren't using they Yellow Freight trucks to chase them down, those guys are slow! 😀

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: KingofCamelot

Originally posted by: Rickten
this is not about making the roads safer, simply more revenue. Same thing with the speed cameras on some of arizona's freeways. The locals know exactly where the cameras are, so they speed then slow down, speed then slow down. Creates an unsafe situation, not to mention the strobe light flash that blinds you momentarily. Its all about the money not making the roads safer.

You do realize the two go hand in hand right?

Speeding tickets should, ideally, cause people to not speed as much, which in turn makes the roads safer.

Giving out more tickets also creates more money, so its a win-win situation.

Either way, the law is being enforced. If you think thats a bad idea, then please go die in a fire. Kthxbye.

So I guess since my grandfather was writing tickets 50 years ago there should be no speeders now? Oh wait there still are. In fact I bet there are more now, speeders, then before. One of the reasons he left was as he put it "cops are just the cities newwest meter maids."

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: BoomerD
Washington State used to have all kinds of off-beat undercover radar cars at their disposal...old pick-ups, cars of all makes, models, and years, even an old (58?) panel truck...Personally, I prefer Kahleeforneeya's tactics, where they (CHP) only used marked patrol cars (although they may NOT be the usual B&W units you're used to) and have set ground rules they have to abide by. Kind of makes participation in "the game" a bit more fair...BUT, they still are active in the "autograph exchange program", and do their share of fund raising...

how can people be this stupid? It isn't a game and it isn't meant to be fair. Speed? Get a ticket. They are just improving their chance of catching you. It isn't right to speed just because you aren't caught while you are doing it. This is no different than employing smarter ways of catching shoplifters. Accept the responsibility of the crime if you choose to commit it. I'm glad the state will make money off of people speeding because a) you deserve a ticket if you speed and b) it will make the road safer even if it is only a very small amount. I very rarely speed, and sometimes it is by accident (didn't know the speed limit). I'm not holier-than-thou, but it really annoys me when people think they are somehow above the law simply because they feel like they should be.

Actually d*ckweed, I have logged about 500,000 accident free, almost ticket free (got one non-moving violation) commercial miles in my 35 years of driving. I recognize that it is a game of sorts, just like it is to the cops...YES, if you speed and get caught, you deserve a ticket...No argument about that. Driving 10-15 MPH over the posted limit may be just as safe as driving UNDER the limit, BUT, you have to pay attention to conditions...driving fast in traffic is dangerous and stupid, and deserves a ticket.

You're probably one of the people who support ANYTHING the cops do, even entrapment, as long as they "get their man"...
I agree with many of the posters here that speeding tickets are more of a revenue source than they are a safety enhancement device.

 

[Adul]

Originally posted by: Rickten
this is not about making the roads safer, simply more revenue. Same thing with the speed cameras on some of arizona's freeways. The locals know exactly where the cameras are, so they speed then slow down, speed then slow down. Creates an unsafe situation, not to mention the strobe light flash that blinds you momentarily. Its all about the money not making the roads safer.

It did make the roads safer on that stretch, the statics proved it, and yes it did generate a lot of revenue as well. I really hated being tailed by some idiot wanting to do 90.

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: BoomerD
Washington State used to have all kinds of off-beat undercover radar cars at their disposal...old pick-ups, cars of all makes, models, and years, even an old (58?) panel truck...Personally, I prefer Kahleeforneeya's tactics, where they (CHP) only used marked patrol cars (although they may NOT be the usual B&W units you're used to) and have set ground rules they have to abide by. Kind of makes participation in "the game" a bit more fair...BUT, they still are active in the "autograph exchange program", and do their share of fund raising...

how can people be this stupid? It isn't a game and it isn't meant to be fair. Speed? Get a ticket. They are just improving their chance of catching you. It isn't right to speed just because you aren't caught while you are doing it. This is no different than employing smarter ways of catching shoplifters. Accept the responsibility of the crime if you choose to commit it. I'm glad the state will make money off of people speeding because a) you deserve a ticket if you speed and b) it will make the road safer even if it is only a very small amount. I very rarely speed, and sometimes it is by accident (didn't know the speed limit). I'm not holier-than-thou, but it really annoys me when people think they are somehow above the law simply because they feel like they should be.

Actually d*ckweed, I have logged about 500,000 accident free, almost ticket free (got one non-moving violation) commercial miles in my 35 years of driving. I recognize that it is a game of sorts, just like it is to the cops...YES, if you speed and get caught, you deserve a ticket...No argument about that. Driving 10-15 MPH over the posted limit may be just as safe as driving UNDER the limit, BUT, you have to pay attention to conditions...driving fast in traffic is dangerous and stupid, and deserves a ticket.

You're probably one of the people who support ANYTHING the cops do, even entrapment, as long as they "get their man"...
I agree with many of the posters here that speeding tickets are more of a revenue source than they are a safety enhancement device.

:laugh: Somehow your opinion is the right one because of your driving record? Did I ever ask anything about that? You still haven't made even a decent attempt at a valid point regarding why this is a bad idea. All you can come up with is some name-calling and bragging about all the driving you have done.

Good job generalizing as well. I don't support everything blindly and I certainly don't pretend to be perfect, but you have to be an idiot to think speeding tickets don't force people to drive slower and/or be cautious when cops could be around. The fear of getting a ticket will slow most people down and that is probably the point of this operation aside from generating more revenue. Just because you have your head stuck in the sand and think you have the right to break the law at your discretion doesn't mean people need to listen to you. This is win/win as mentioned earlier because people like you will get caught speeding and the state will get more money from people who speed and were previously getting away with it. You only do it because it's easy.

 

[DrPizza]

I pay a lot in property taxes. So what if this is about making more revenue for the state. Great. It takes money to run a state. And, if they don't get that money from buffoons who think they're above the law, then they'll end up raising my taxes. I have a perfect idea... drop the whole point system on licenses (so they can keep nabbing the same idiots over and over again without taking away their licenses) and raise the amount of the tickets significantly. Then, they could even lower my property taxes! :thumbsup: Being blessed with the common sense gene, I'd quickly realize that if I maintain the speed limit (or rather, stay below the speed limit that's enforced), then I'm not going to have to pay.

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: DrPizza
I pay a lot in property taxes. So what if this is about making more revenue for the state. Great. It takes money to run a state. And, if they don't get that money from buffoons who think they're above the law, then they'll end up raising my taxes. I have a perfect idea... drop the whole point system on licenses (so they can keep nabbing the same idiots over and over again without taking away their licenses) and raise the amount of the tickets significantly. Then, they could even lower my property taxes! :thumbsup: Being blessed with the common sense gene, I'd quickly realize that if I maintain the speed limit (or rather, stay below the speed limit that's enforced), then I'm not going to have to pay.

:shocked: No way! That would really work? Who'da thunk it?

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
Accept the responsibility of the crime if you choose to commit it.

Technically most tickets are not criminal offences. they are civil infractions. Only some very severe offences are criminal offences.

That said, I agree. I tend to speed about 5-10 over on the freeway (NEVER on residential streets or streets with a limit below 50). Never been so much as stopped for it. But if I do get stopped and ticketed, I'll pay it. I know the risk and I know that at some point I'll get nicked for it. It just the speed I naturally seem to drive at. If I pay no attention at all to speed and just watch traffic I'll drive around 70 mph. If I constantly monitor my speed (which does take attention away from traffic) I can stay at 65. Just not worth it to me.

ZV

 

[tomywishbone]

Tickets generate revenue. Tickets do not make the roads any safer. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

 

[BUTCH1]

When people in KY spot a yellow semi just get in front of it and drive the legal
minimum just to piss 'em off. Truckers HATE being late, revenge is a dish best
served slow....

 

[jagec]

The safest speed to travel on most roads is 5-8 over. Speed doesn't kill--speed differential does, and the majority of traffic (85th percentile) tends to travel 5-8 over. In fact, that's how speed limits are usually set...they do a study to figure out the 85th percentile speed on roads of a certain width/curvature/quality of pavement, and fix the limit a little lower.

As long as they're only pulling over the people WAY over the limit (maybe), and take the time to address the REAL safety concerns on the road (reckless driving, going way too slow, not signalling etc--doubtful), it seems OK to me.

Realistically, though, it really is all about the money.

 

[Mrfrog840]

Originally posted by: Juno

Originally posted by: Boo Boo
dont speed

 

[compuwiz1]

Originally posted by: DrPizza
I pay a lot in property taxes. So what if this is about making more revenue for the state. Great. It takes money to run a state. And, if they don't get that money from buffoons who think they're above the law, then they'll end up raising my taxes. I have a perfect idea... drop the whole point system on licenses (so they can keep nabbing the same idiots over and over again without taking away their licenses) and raise the amount of the tickets significantly. Then, they could even lower my property taxes! :thumbsup: Being blessed with the common sense gene, I'd quickly realize that if I maintain the speed limit (or rather, stay below the speed limit that's enforced), then I'm not going to have to pay.

Too much logic went into that post, Dr. P! You now realize, that half of ATOT's heads just exploded? 🙂