Higher taxes stymie job creation

[zinfamous]

I would like for you, or anyone else, to explain how raising taxes is going to create jobs.
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That was already done in at least 70% of the so-far 150 posts in this thread. You refuse to read.

Fuck off, twat.

 

[Texashiker]

That was already done in at least 70% of the so-far 150 posts in this thread. You refuse to read.

Fuck off, twat.

No, all I have seen is tax and spend.

Exactly what are democrats proposing to spend the money on?

There is a big difference in social programs, and putting people to work building a dam, or highway. I doubt you would know anything about physical labor.

 

[Jhhnn]

I would like for you, or anyone else, to explain how raising taxes is going to create jobs.

As described earlier in post 131, the government of today is different than the government in the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s.

Added bonus, rather than infrastructure, democrats talk about stuff like medicare for all. How is medicare for all going to spur the economy.

Because it will create jobs in healthcare to serve the people who aren't getting served today. The ACA has already done some of that in Medicaid expansion states. We can do a lot of things for the American people that the JobCreators obviously find no profit in doing on their own.

 

[zinfamous]

No, all I have seen is tax and spend.

No, you fucking haven't. You just don't understand how taxes work. You simply don't. This has been explained to you that a point most 3rd graders could figure it out, but you are stuck on vapid talking points. Your reply here doesn't fucking mean anything. It only reveals that you lack any kind of curiosity to fucking educate yourself.

You're useless. So, keep whining like a child, because everyone treats you like a child when you do nothing but act like a child. It is no other way.

Oh, and I worked in construction for about 5 years. I built houses for elderly people for free (not even Habitat or Americorps). I replaced my own roof. My own floors. I do my own work. No--I'm not a pro, but I'm certainly pretty handy, and I definitely don't pretend to have skills above my level. I much prefer learning from pros and those with experience...which is what I do.

Yes, I can do all of the skills that you have, banging wrenches against pipes and welding, and pretty effectively learn the rest, but I can also dissect vessels out of small animal hearts and organ systems, and even slivers of microscopic tissues from tiny organisms from insects--I've created life by performing ICSI on fresh embryos, or injecting various gene constructs into 1 day-old embryos, or ES cells into 3 day old blastulas, and transferring these little critters into mice...all of which actually requires extreme patience and dexterity, and at least a half year or more to learn--because well, basically, I have the skills and the coordination and the brains to do every fucking thing that you could possibly do, and do it better, and I can then do more....because I still determine that my brain is the most important organ. It has learned how to play music and all sorts of other things. I find this shit important, TH

Because I can read. And I'm curious, and I like to do things myself...and by that I mean do them. Not quit after 2 or 3 weeks at a time and spend the next 30 years of my life inflating 2 or 3 tasks that I completed (As a team), as some grand achievement that changed the world.

Yes, we understand what kind of image you are trying to pass off as yourself, Tuggler, because it is obvious. You're a fucking fraud, and you're a pathetic loser. We get it. Stop blaming and hating everyone else because of it, and just get back to work and do something.

Anyfucking thing. You certainly aren't useful here.

 

[JSt0rm]

Can't build competitive, necessary high-speed trains in highly populated, cash-generating parts of the country because some mud-dwelling farmers 2k miles away think it's a bad idea...all the while they farm fallow fields of dirt, just depending on government welfare to support their inability to grow actual food....the true salt of the earth, let me tell you.
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let them die.

 

[JSt0rm]

No, all I have seen is tax and spend.

you are a pants shitting retard. What you see is irrelevant to the world.

 

[zzyzxroad]

Educate yourself, please.

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/391896/CLINTON-SIGNS-GATT-DEAL-CALLS-IT-A-VICTORY-FOR-US.html

Isn't the deseret news own by LDS church?

 

[Jhhnn]

Isn't the deseret news own by LDS church?

He's technically correct that Clinton finalized the work done during the RR/GHWB years on both GATT & NAFTA.

 

[zzyzxroad]

He's technically correct that Clinton finalized the work done during the RR/GHWB years on both GATT & NAFTA.

I didn't even read the link but thanks. Just wondering who reads articles from that site. Guessing it was the first one that popped in his Google search.

 

[Amused]

For the sake of discussion let's raise taxes back to what they were in the 1950s, 1960s.

What should the money be spent on?

Should our economy be based on how much the government can tax and spend? We are already 22 trillion in debt, what a few trillion more.

Aaaaannd you double down.

You actually covered it.

It's amazing how you keep making my point for me and thinking you're proving me wrong.

Fuck dude.

 

[zinfamous]

Aaaaannd you double down.

You actually covered it.

It's amazing how you keep making my point for me and thinking you're proving me wrong.

Fuck dude.

it's also like he doesn't care that we are 22 trillion in debt because 18 trillion of that is specifically unnecessary wars and billionaire tax cuts by, and only ever by, fucking GOP POTUS's and legislators. It is only ever thus.

"I grab numbers from some pile of something to say a thing, but who cares where those numbers come from or what they actually mean?" = the GOP/TH/Retard MO.

The idiot specifically, repeatedly, and unapologetically voted for this debt...again and again and again and again...and is trying to scream and blame others for his fucking failure. Fuck him. Fuck him over and over again.

 

[thilanliyan]

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The problem was not obama being black, it was everything he did, such as helping pave the way for Iran to further their nuclear program..... etc.

Source for this?
All evidence (independent verification) points to Iran honoring their end of the agreement.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Is it selective ignorance on your part, our you just do not know?

When we had a high tax rate, what was happening inside the United States?

World War II vets using their GI bill to get degrees
Interstate highway project
Dam construction
Rural electrification program

During the 1940s, 1950s, 1960s, and even into the 1970s, the United States government invested so much money into infrastructure it is outrageous. Of course we had a booming economy, because jobs were plentiful.

My great grandfather went from serving in the navy during WW II, to working on the interstate highway project. He helped build some of the major highways in Southeast Texas.

What's left to build? Let's say we raised the taxes again, where would the money go? If you want to rebuild every bridge in the US, fine. Maybe upgrade the power infrastructure, ok.

Do you really think raising taxes to provide medicare for all is going to drive the economy? Of course not.

The difference in the time period you mentioned and today? Decades ago the government spent money to build this nation. Today, we give stuff away, such as foreign aid, and corporate welfare.

The high taxes started prior to WW2, this little thing called the great depression.

Didn't Trump release his infrastructure bill? How many bridges are being rebuilt under it?

 

[brycejones]

Source for this?
All evidence (independent verification) points to Iran honoring their end of the agreement.

The source is his ass and Trump’s tweets.

 

[Meghan54]

Is it selective ignorance on your part, our you just do not know?

When we had a high tax rate, what was happening inside the United States?

World War II vets using their GI bill to get degrees
Interstate highway project
Dam construction
Rural electrification program

During the 1940s, 1950s, 1960s, and even into the 1970s, the United States government invested so much money into infrastructure it is outrageous. Of course we had a booming economy, because jobs were plentiful.

My great grandfather went from serving in the navy during WW II, to working on the interstate highway project. He helped build some of the major highways in Southeast Texas.

What's left to build? Let's say we raised the taxes again, where would the money go? If you want to rebuild every bridge in the US, fine. Maybe upgrade the power infrastructure, ok.

Do you really think raising taxes to provide medicare for all is going to drive the economy? Of course not.

The difference in the time period you mentioned and today? Decades ago the government spent money to build this nation. Today, we give stuff away, such as foreign aid, and corporate welfare.

Damn, the self-ownage of this single post is hilarious.....well, it'd be funny if it wasn't so damned wrong.

 

[cytg111]

No, all I have seen is tax and spend.

Exactly what are democrats proposing to spend the money on?

There is a big difference in social programs, and putting people to work building a dam, or highway. I doubt you would know anything about physical labor.

I am not sure if serious. Are you dyslexic? There is no shame in that, it just seems you are unable to comprehend the written points being thrown at you.

Higher pesonal tax ->
Less incentive to pull money out from company->
More money stays in company->
Company spends more money on R&D/reinvestment.

Its that simple, its hard to dance around.... but you try???

 

[dank69]

For the sake of discussion let's raise taxes back to what they were in the 1950s, 1960s.

What should the money be spent on?

Should our economy be based on how much the government can tax and spend? We are already 22 trillion in debt, what a few trillion more.

Maybe you just lack imagination? You already mentioned bridges but there are also roads/tunnels/etc. Then the power infrastructure, converting from fossil fuel to renewables, upgrading the grid, making it all more robust especially against hackers. Then we can get to work upgrading communications for everyone, changing copper to fiber and wireless. Fixing healthcare/welfare/etc and if there is still money left over we can expand our space exploration budget.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Trump has lowered taxes and the economy shows it. Low unemployment, workforce participation ticking up, record consumer confidence, small businesses flourishing.

 

[fskimospy]

Were you even born by the 1990s?

I was watching the news and reading the newspapers.

"Your" part of the economy was in a recession, my line of work was booming. Fabrication shops had more work than they knew what to do with. We were working 12 hours a day, 7 days a week for months on end.

Where were those parts going? Saudi Arabia. I built pressure vessels that weighed 90 - 100 tons. They were shipped by rail to the Port of Beaumont, loaded a ship and sent to Saudi.

No, the US economy as a whole was. You are getting simple facts wrong left and right because you’re trying to justify an idea that’s just wrong. There is no connection between marginal tax rates on the rich and job growth. None.

Zero.

 

[IronWing]

Arguing with Texashiker is like the best pinball game ever!

 

[dank69]

Trump has lowered taxes and the economy shows it. Low unemployment, workforce participation ticking up, record consumer confidence, small businesses flourishing.

How's the national debt doing? Did you forget about that part?

 

[soundforbjt]

How's the national debt doing? Did you forget about that part?

Heard yesterday that if the Bush & Trump tax cuts never happened, we'd be at a balanced budget right now.
Trump was ranting during the campaign how he was going to tackle the National Debt bigly, look how that turned out.

 

[brycejones]

Heard yesterday that if the Bush & Trump tax cuts never happened, we'd be at a balanced budget right now.
Trump was ranting during the campaign how
The was going to tackle the National Debt bigly, look how that turned out.

That’s a damn dirty libtard lie. The right truth is that without those tax cuts the economy would be utter collapse now. The rich would have fled to the new space station and all jerbs would be in Outer Mongolia now.

 

[nakedfrog]

One of the things that helped make America what it is today is the idea of someone being wealthy. Taxing someone at 70% - 90% is a barrier to that ideology.

Someone may say, "Why would I want to do that when the government will take 70%?"

AFTER the first ten million. AFTER the first ten million.
WHY ON EARTH WOULD I WANT TO EARN FIFTEEN MILLION DOLLARS IN A YEAR IF THEY'RE GOING TO TAX 70% OF FIVE MILLION OF THAT FIFTEEN MILLION DOLLARS. LOL WHAT A MORON WHO WOULD DO SUCH A THING.

 

[Texashiker]

No matter what I say it is going to be wrong.

Tax and spend on social programs does not create the same amount of jobs that tax and build an interstate highway does. If someone wants a free college education, join the military and use the GI bill.

I hope yall enjoy the socialist hellhole we are heading towards. Taxing the rich at 70 - 90 percent will drive the economy into a nosedive.