Heyyy!!!...Whoaaaa!!!!! (unbelievable 747 approaches !!!)

[crab]

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Video

 

[kgraeme]

<<
Just totally winging it here...but on landing, the engines aren't cranking that much and maybe jetwash is not a factor?

Dunno...no clue. >>



You are correct. Generally speaking, the only time you have 100% is during takeoff and climb. During landings in the little planes I fly the throttle is down to about 25% and when I've cleared the land or go-around decision point and I'm dead on for landing, I pull the throttle all back so that I'm essentially coasting in.

Still, with these big birds the wingtip vortices and wake turbulence alone are enough to cause problems. The FAA recommends at least two minutes between planes on takeoff/landing to let the turbulence subside.

I just linked the video because I thought it was cool.

 

[Jimbo]

More cool turbofan tricks!
I really thought that would fit!

 

[stash]

I've been on that beach in St. Maartin, and they do come in low but not as low as that first pic.

The first pic looks faked--the second and third ones are pretty accurate.

 

[BillGates]

I know it's real - It was on one of those "Real TV" shows where people send in their vids - crazy... But the pics are even cooler than the video was.

 

[Amused]

<< there is no way that those first pictures aren't photochopped. Not a single person on that beach that i saw has there hands over there ears, nor are they running away or covering faces from the sandstorm that is about to hit them in a couple seconds. >>



Moose, I've seen video of that airport runway right by the beach. It ain't photoshopped at all.

 

[Wingnut]

<< There is a mountain at the end of the runway.6 >>




Holy Crap!!! That's gotta be a quite a yoker!!!

At least for that thing and for the poor people who never
experienced that kind of abrupt, terrain avoidance type maneuvering!!!





<< More cool turbofan tricks! >>



Man, you guys never cease to amaze me!!!! And that thing was idling!!!:Q

Thanks for the cool pics and sites guys!

 

[crab]

Guys, here is a video of an AirFrance 747 landing at St. Maarten.
I showed this a couple months ago here.

Video

Taken by Chris Kilroy of www.airdisaster.com

I also have the video of that plane taking off, blowing sand everywhere, and some people getting sandblasted but my webspace is full.

 

[Sacraster]

lol cool man

 

[RONType1]

<< They look real to me. I haven't landed a jumbo, but from the view of the cockpit the glideslope is right.

For an example of jetwash, check this from whocutthecheeze.com. >>



hehe jetwash is cool!

 

[Wingnut]

<< Guys, here is a video of an AirFrance 747 landing at St. Maarten. >>




Still lowndoading Crab!

I'll get back with ya!

Man I should have called this thread "Why NOT to be a commercial airline pilot!"



<< Hey, to everyone who's making fun of these pilots: you ever stop to think that maybe there was a mechanical problem of some sort, and the pilots were in fact, doing an incredible job and saving everyone on board? >>



Actually, these types crosswind landings are quite common on small islands that only support one runway. Crosswinds require a massive application of opposite rudder and aileron/spoileron to compensate and keep the airplane in a proper vertical glidepath attitude. Aircraft companies do design these aircraft to have up to a 45 degree crab attitude on landing. Add to this some serious terrain avoidance and you get what you've seen here...without the engine strikes though!!!

 

[Wingnut]

<< Guys, here is a video of an AirFrance 747 landing at St. Maarten. >>



I love it! You can hear right as the wingtip vortices hit the camera mic!!!
Those can be dangerous under certain conditions believe it or not.
They can pack a wollop...almost like a small horizontal tornadoe!!!

I've seen small aircraft land far too soon after a big liner has and practically
destroy the aircraft!!

 

[polypterus]

<< Guys, here is a video of an AirFrance 747 landing at St. Maarten.
I showed this a couple months ago here.

Video

Taken by Chris Kilroy of www.airdisaster.com

I also have the video of that plane taking off, blowing sand everywhere, and some people getting sandblasted but my webspace is full. >>



Thanks, amazing.

btw if you get the other video up somewhere let us know.

dc

 

[crab]

<<

<< Guys, here is a video of an AirFrance 747 landing at St. Maarten. >>



I love it! You can hear right as the wingtip vortices hit the camera mic!!!
Those can be dangerous under certain conditions believe it or not.
They can pack a wollop...almost like a small horizontal tornadoe!!!

I've seen small aircraft land far too soon after a big liner has and practically
destroy the aircraft!! >>



Yep...a couple years ago I was sitting the ramp, in a dinky 152 having just completed a run-up... This IAI Westwind priv. jet pulls ahead of me, stops, then blasts the engines to get moving again... I thought I was done... but certain aileron/elevator combos will save you from being blown away.

 

[dc]

whoa, crazy pictures. :Q

 

[Rogue]

I have about 4 gigs of transfer space I'm not using right now. I'll host. Just PM me the link to download 'em from you and I will put them up on my host.

 

[GooberPHX420]

<<

<< << is this one photochopped? >>
Sure looks like it, landing gear isnt even down yet. I believe they have to drop the landing gear by like 1500 feet or sumthin... >>



yeah it is, note the wheels sticking out of the bottom of the plane. >>



Yeah, Ok asshat. Now note how the flightgear is still unfolding while 15 feet above ground..yeah. Next time you try to flame, think about it first asshat.

 

[Wingnut]

<< Yep...a couple years ago I was sitting the ramp, in a dinky 152 having just completed a run-up... This IAI Westwind priv. jet pulls ahead of me, stops, then blasts the engines to get moving again... I thought I was done... but certain aileron/elevator combos will save you from being blown away. >>



Good to hear it Crab! Some of those jet jockies use outrageous breakaway thrust to get going...especially in expedited takeoff situations.

Fortunately this hasn't happened to me yet...YET!!!! I did lift a wing once while holding short on a taxiway during a strong quartering headwind. Quick aileron input saved the day but needless to say, this was NOT a day for flying!!

 

[Rogue]

Last I checked, an Air France airliner landing in a foreign country wasn't governed by the FAA, so maybe their rules are a little different. Maybe, just maybe, the pilot was a screw up in the first place and that's why he was subsequently fired. Oh wait, and maybe the landing gear had a defect. You piss ants always want to say "That pic is chopped man!" with little or no regard for the other possibilities, including those that could be 100% true. Don't ever become detectives or do anything where you may have to make a decision based on a photo of something or we're all doomed to hell. Damn photochop monkies.

 

[hx009]

<< Last I checked, an Air France airliner landing in a foreign country wasn't governed by the FAA, so maybe their rules are a little different. Maybe, just maybe, the pilot was a screw up in the first place and that's why he was subsequently fired. Oh wait, and maybe the landing gear had a defect. You piss ants always want to say "That pic is chopped man!" with little or no regard for the other possibilities, including those that could be 100% true. Don't ever become detectives or do anything where you may have to make a decision based on a photo of something or we're all doomed to hell. Damn photochop monkies. >>



And maybe you should do your own research before spouting off insults and sounding like a jerk. Air France touches down in many countries, including the U.S. (in several cities). It's right on their own web site. There is more than one St. Martin in the world, but if the one in question is the one I think it is, the country is "Guadalupe", and Air France services their airport.

p.s. We also know it's not photoshopped because we've seen videos of this on TV. Did they photoshop the video too?

 

[stash]

What is an "asshat"?

 

[hx009]

<< What is an "asshat"? >>



asshat: 1. A general insult used to describe a person who is being an idiot or a loser.

Taken from here.

 

[johnjohn320]

<< << << is this one photochopped? >>
Sure looks like it, landing gear isnt even down yet. I believe they have to drop the landing gear by like 1500 feet or sumthin... >>



yeah it is, note the wheels sticking out of the bottom of the plane. >>



Yeah, Ok asshat. Now note how the flightgear is still unfolding while 15 feet above ground..yeah. Next time you try to flame, think about it first asshat. >>



Wow, first you started with the innocent "asshat", but then you went all out and really insulted me, calling me an..er..."asshat!" chill out I wasn't trying to flame you. The wheels look completely down to me, is all.

 

[bizmark]

<< Wow, first you started with the innocent "asshat", but then you went all out and really insulted me, calling me an..er..."asshat!" chill out I wasn't trying to flame you. The wheels look completely down to me, is all. >>



Yeah, look at all the other pics on the site. It looks like the (some of the) back landing gear on 747s stays tilted until they touch the ground. I thought the same thing at first -- they definitely look like they're not down all the way. But then I checked out the other photos that have been posted here, and that seems to be standard for 747s. Anyone with actual airplane knowledge care to verify this?

 

[crab]

Yes, the gear bogies on most airliners are tilted so they will fit in the wells properly.