~ Hey newbies ~ Never built a computer before...? : )

[ssanches]

mechBgon, a small suggestion: your article mentions that users should loop the HSF cable to reduce EMI. AMD suggests to tie it in a serpentine loop or to route the extra cabling directly thru the HSF fins to reduce EMI. Here's what their document #26003A says:

The large loop to the power connector is a potential problem. Shorten this length as much
as possible by routing the cable in a serpentine manner and tying it with a plastic twist-tie.
This solution can reduce emissions by 5 dB. Also, shortening the cable path by routing the
fan power cable through the heat sink fins (to allow more direct routing) can decrease
EMI emissions.

I'd like to point you to the excellent build and installation guide that AMD made for desktop / tower systems. It's called "Builders Guide for Desktop/Tower Systems", document No: 26003A (available at www.amd.com. Suggest you add the link in your resources page for the newbies....

Edit: The link for VIA chipset drivers points to Intel's web page! Has Intel has hijacked your page so soon??:Q :Q

 

[mechBgon]

Originally posted by: ssanches
mechBgon, a small suggestion: your article mentions that users should loop the HSF cable to reduce EMI. AMD suggests to tie it in a serpentine loop or to route the extra cabling directly thru the HSF fins to reduce EMI. Here's what their document #26003A says:

The large loop to the power connector is a potential problem. Shorten this length as much
as possible by routing the cable in a serpentine manner and tying it with a plastic twist-tie.
This solution can reduce emissions by 5 dB. Also, shortening the cable path by routing the
fan power cable through the heat sink fins (to allow more direct routing) can decrease
EMI emissions.

I'd like to point you to the excellent build and installation guide that AMD made for desktop / tower systems. It's called "Builders Guide for Desktop/Tower Systems", document No: 26003A (available at www.amd.com. Suggest you add the link in your resources page for the newbies....

Edit: The link for VIA chipset drivers points to Intel's web page! Has Intel has hijacked your page so soon??:Q :Q

Ooops, I must've goofed my copy/paste on the VIA link, that was 1AM work Thanks for the heads-up And actually, I got the cable-looping from none other than AMD's guide, but I'll re-read it... they might've changed it since I saw it last. The link to AMD's guide will go into the Resources listing as you've suggested.

Still no word from Evan or Andy. Maybe my guide is too long Hehe, it'll be interesting to hear what my ISP says when I go in to pay my bill next time... :Q

 

[kalster]

just glanced over it quickly


awsome work dude





have a :beer: on me

 

[SneakyStuff]

Very nicely done, I can see why you're an elite member :beer: cheers!

 

[ssanches]

Still no word from Evan or Andy. Maybe my guide is too long Hehe, it'll be interesting to hear what my ISP says when I go in to pay my bill next time... :Q

Offtopic: Last I heard of them, they were both chasing Easter Bunnies Happy Easter :beer:

 

[mechBgon]

Originally posted by: ssanches

Still no word from Evan or Andy. Maybe my guide is too long Hehe, it'll be interesting to hear what my ISP says when I go in to pay my bill next time... :Q

Offtopic: Last I heard of them, they were both chasing Easter Bunnies Happy Easter :beer:

Hmmm, and I bet the first thing they do is nibble on the ears, too... LOL, happy Easter to y'all too. And check out my groovy visual glossary!

 

[GonzoDaGr8]

What tools will I need? I suggest these:
#2 Phillips (+) screwdriver
medium-sized flat-blade screwdriver
small adjustable wrench
utility knife
small flashlight/torch

:Q

j/k

 

[Zebo]

Pizza!! Snack break! haha great stuff...just don't get those goodies in the keyboard or your keys will stick.

 

[GrumpyMan]

Good job, thanks.

 

[screw3d]

Let me know if u wanna polish the look of it.

 

[jrphoenix]

Hi MechBgon... are you going to have a a section on setting up a RAID configuration and additional optional building features? Maybe you could have a followup to this guide with more advanced topics? I'm not trying to waste your time but this is a great guide and could only get better.

Thanks for the efforts!

 

[DAPUNISHER]

ttt^

 

[jdogg707]

this thing needs to be at the top and stay at the top, it's an awesome resource for anyone new to system building!

 

[bandana163]

Nice guide.
Shouldn't this be a sticky? Mods?

 

[Nate-X]

Dude you never cease to amaze me Now if I could only absorb your cable cleanup skills through osmosis I'd be set..

 

[nycdude]

Excellent guide with side humor. A CLASSIC.

 

[Peter D]

Another bump, and PM

 

[Cerb]

^ for the guide. Most of us could do it, but mechBgon actually decided not to be lazy like the rest of us .

 

[jrphoenix]

MechBgon... are you going to create a guide with some more advanced features, like setting up a RAID 0 0+1?

 

[JMann23800]

MechBgon,

I just wanted to pop in and say thanks for making this guide. I built my very first computer a couple of weeks ago (specs are in the sig) and although I had many "guides" and "how tos" bookmarked, yours was the one I had open on my laptop and used as my reference.

Everything including the pictures were excellent, I can honestly say it would have been alot harder without it. Even using your guide here are a couple of things that had me scratching my head, you might want to address these.

1) The heatsink installation: Although I looked at the photos and watched the video, it took me about 20 minutes to realize that you have to put the clip on the backside as you are putting it on, then use the screwdriver to secure the otherside. I thought that you sat it on there and then used a screwdriver to clip both ends.

2) More of an explanation of what you will see the first time you boot it up. I didn't know exactly what was meant by "post" and I didn't know what screen I should see if it was a successful build.


Once again :beer: for taking the time to make this guide.............it should be stickified!!!

-Josh

 

[mechBgon]

Originally posted by: JMann23800
MechBgon,



I just wanted to pop in and say thanks for making this guide. I built my very first computer a couple of weeks ago (specs are in the sig) and although I had many "guides" and "how tos" bookmarked, yours was the one I had open on my laptop and used as my reference.



Everything including the pictures were excellent, I can honestly say it would have been alot harder without it. Even using your guide here are a couple of things that had me scratching my head, you might want to address these.



1) The heatsink installation: Although I looked at the photos and watched the video, it took me about 20 minutes to realize that you have to put the clip on the backside as you are putting it on, then use the screwdriver to secure the otherside. I thought that you sat it on there and then used a screwdriver to clip both ends.



2) More of an explanation of what you will see the first time you boot it up. I didn't know exactly what was meant by "post" and I didn't know what screen I should see if it was a successful build.





Once again :beer: for taking the time to make this guide.............it should be stickified!!!



-Josh

Glad to hear that the guide helped, and also for the suggested clarifications! I'll see about getting those items clarified.

 

[Wolfsraider]

great work

it was good before now it is simply awesome

mike

 

[suklee]

BUMP for a great guide. Well done!

:beer:

 

[ScrapSilicon]

Originally posted by: ssanches
mechBgon, a small suggestion: your article mentions that users should loop the HSF cable to reduce EMI. AMD suggests to tie it in a serpentine loop

been doing that for 3 yrs now..thought it was just tidiness on my part..

or to route the extra cabling directly thru the HSF fins to reduce EMI. Here's what their document #26003A says:

The large loop to the power connector is a potential problem. Shorten this length as much
as possible by routing the cable in a serpentine manner and tying it with a plastic twist-tie.
This solution can reduce emissions by 5 dB. Also, shortening the cable path by routing the
fan power cable through the heat sink fins (to allow more direct routing) can decrease
EMI emissions.

I'd like to point you to the excellent build and installation guide that AMD made for desktop / tower systems. It's called "Builders Guide for Desktop/Tower Systems", document No: 26003A (available at <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.amd.com">[url]www.amd.com</a>.[/url] Suggest you add the link in your resources page for the newbies....

Edit: The link for VIA chipset drivers points to Intel's web page! Has Intel has hijacked your page so soon??:Q :Q

I wouldn't do that..I've seen the plastic ooze off these thin wires when touching the heatsink while system was running..would make for an interesting show tho if you let it go to the next level of shorting out on the slug of copper/aluminum.

Originally posted by: mechBgon
<blockquote>Quote
Originally posted by: Abhi
Looks real professional now

A page with a pic guide for installing a p4 might be a welcome addition...

I would consider having a Pentium4 installation page too, but I don't have any Pentium4's available to photograph At least their heatsinks are a bit more user-friendly and cannot be installed backwards [/quote]

but their latches are sometimes easily undone by fumble fingers doing other parts swapping..always check fastenings before powerup up ttt for this and def needsa sticky

 

[ScrapSilicon]

uhm..is it me or is my post above glitched up and missing parts/bits..?