I'd suggest either just replacing the board w/ another MPX based one w/ both cpu sockets working or go all out and sell your current board and processors and get an opteron setup, I wouldn't suggest going middle of the road or a single processor system based on what you posted.
Damn dual socket A stuff seems to be problematic in general. I'm biased though.
I went to a p4, and I don't ever really get bogged down while multitasking unless there is a lot of disk access (ide), and that happens on a dual machine too. Coming from dual duron 1.3's, I noticed a *very* noticeable speed increase for anything cpu-bound. Even firebird sped up a lot.
$170 p4 2.8c + $100 mobo + $90 ram (numbers might be off a bit, but close. i mostly buy in fs/ft, and i did this a couple months ago)
edit: btw! finally took some (crappy) pics of my toasted tiger mp. it still works, but it's an unstable piece of trash. not sure what its deal is. don't care anymore. http://incise.org:82/pub/tigermp/
I went to a p4, and I don't ever really get bogged down while multitasking unless there is a lot of disk access (ide), and that happens on a dual machine too. Coming from dual duron 1.3's, I noticed a *very* noticeable speed increase for anything cpu-bound. Even firebird sped up a lot.
$170 p4 2.8c + $100 mobo + $90 ram (numbers might be off a bit, but close. i mostly buy in fs/ft, and i did this a couple months ago)
edit: btw! finally took some (crappy) pics of my toasted tiger mp. it still works, but it's an unstable piece of trash. not sure what its deal is. don't care anymore. http://incise.org:82/pub/tigermp/
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Yeah, that looks like my Tiger MP.
Part of me wants to just get a new board. It would be cheap and effective.
Another part wants me to shell out the dough for a dual Opteron 244 system.
I had some seeerious lag today waiting for the processor to keep up. It's much more noticable in Debian than it is in Windows XP.
Part of me wants to just get a new board. It would be cheap and effective.
Another part wants me to shell out the dough for a dual Opteron 244 system.
I had some seeerious lag today waiting for the processor to keep up. It's much more noticable in Debian than it is in Windows XP.
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Yeah, that looks like my Tiger MP.
Part of me wants to just get a new board. It would be cheap and effective.
Another part wants me to shell out the dough for a dual Opteron 244 system.
I had some seeerious lag today waiting for the processor to keep up. It's much more noticable in Debian than it is in Windows XP.
Part of me wants to just get a new board. It would be cheap and effective.
Another part wants me to shell out the dough for a dual Opteron 244 system.
I had some seeerious lag today waiting for the processor to keep up. It's much more noticable in Debian than it is in Windows XP.
Go single! It's all the rage
Seriously, while dual definitely has its ups, a single p4 is much better 99% of the time than 2 slower cpus, for me anyways. And sure, you could go dual opteron, but you could also just go single opteron/a64/whatever (can't keep up with the lingo anymore), save a lot of money, and get most of the same experience. I'm compiling right now and I don't even notice it.
Seriously, while dual definitely has its ups, a single p4 is much better 99% of the time than 2 slower cpus, for me anyways. And sure, you could go dual opteron, but you could also just go single opteron/a64/whatever (can't keep up with the lingo anymore), save a lot of money, and get most of the same experience. I'm compiling right now and I don't even notice it.
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Hmmm... it *is* tempting, and I could get a nice 3400+ setup for less than the price of a dual 2800+ setup.Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
Go single! It's all the rage
Seriously, while dual definitely has its ups, a single p4 is much better 99% of the time than 2 slower cpus, for me anyways. And sure, you could go dual opteron, but you could also just go single opteron/a64/whatever (can't keep up with the lingo anymore), save a lot of money, and get most of the same experience. I'm compiling right now and I don't even notice it.
I guess I'll just have to see how the money flow goes.
That problem was fixed in the MPX boards. I've been looking at getting an MPX board to replace my Tiger MP (and a couple of CPUs to go with it) for a while. I think if you have the money it might be worth it.
I also wouldn't mind an AMD64 board. And the only decent ones I've found are Dual Opteron boards. None of the single proc AMD64/opteron boards I've seen have 64bit PCI, and I don't know how anyone can go without one (gigabit ethernet, scsi, etc).
Maybe a nice dual opteron board, with only one opteron for now. You should be able to pick up a second later, when you have more money and if you need it. Until then you have all the goodies you should need for a while.
I also wouldn't mind an AMD64 board. And the only decent ones I've found are Dual Opteron boards. None of the single proc AMD64/opteron boards I've seen have 64bit PCI, and I don't know how anyone can go without one (gigabit ethernet, scsi, etc).
Maybe a nice dual opteron board, with only one opteron for now. You should be able to pick up a second later, when you have more money and if you need it. Until then you have all the goodies you should need for a while.
Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
Go single! It's all the rage
Seriously, while dual definitely has its ups, a single p4 is much better 99% of the time than 2 slower cpus, for me anyways. And sure, you could go dual opteron, but you could also just go single opteron/a64/whatever (can't keep up with the lingo anymore), save a lot of money, and get most of the same experience. I'm compiling right now and I don't even notice it.
AMD64/Athlon 64 = home users
FX = enthusiast
opteron 14? = single processor server chips
opteron 24? = up to dual processor server chips
opteron 84? = up to 8 way server chips
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I voted to go the Xeon route. It's the most expensive option which means it should be the best option, right?
Dual opterons. You could get one now and another later. Can run with just one cpu installed
Motherboard wow just checked specs supports 16GB or RAM.
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=13-129-132&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE
CPU
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-403&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE
Motherboard wow just checked specs supports 16GB or RAM.
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=13-129-132&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE
CPU
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-403&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE
PorBleemo:
Our price engine runs off the same setup (FBSD though, not Windows).
Its a good rig
Anyways; random BP6 fact for those of you who dont know. The BP6 was designed by one of my favorite engineers, Oskar Wu, from Abit. He also designed the NF7-S and stuff i think. Anyways, hes at DFI now, designing all the AMD boards. His core team is with him too also working on the Intel boards. I am guessing this has something to do with the reason DFI's stuff is good now. :-X
Kristopher
Our price engine runs off the same setup (FBSD though, not Windows).
Its a good rig
Anyways; random BP6 fact for those of you who dont know. The BP6 was designed by one of my favorite engineers, Oskar Wu, from Abit. He also designed the NF7-S and stuff i think. Anyways, hes at DFI now, designing all the AMD boards. His core team is with him too also working on the Intel boards. I am guessing this has something to do with the reason DFI's stuff is good now. :-X
Kristopher
From what you've said. I'd go with a single 3.0 Ghz P4C with HT. I voted for what I considered your best bet though from the options listed.
With a HT P4C you can still do plenty of stuff at once efficiently since you said you enjoy that ability and since you play games 50% of the time it will be very fast in games as well.
You also have one of the best, most stable platforms under it as well the 865/875s. Incredibly cheap too for some of those motherboards. Especially if you're willing to use Newegg refurb like I would ($40).
I use a 1700+ on a Nforce 2.. not exactly a hot system but I'm a fan of both Intel/AMDs stuff. Nothing wrong with the P4C at all, and sounds like its right up your alley. If I was to buy today for myself, what I recommended would be my pick for myself as well.
I honestly prefer Intel though until socket 939 and the NF3-250 is on the streets. Thats what I'm waiting for. I wouldnt suggest you wait, 865 Intel stuff is incredibly cheap now. The price premium on Grantsdale with DDR2 and being new isnt something I'd recommend you wait for Not worth it.
Tough to beat that tried and true Intel platform that has price, maturity, and probably overall stability on its side.
Sounds like your openminded enough to give it a shot as well! Someone like you needs HT.
With a HT P4C you can still do plenty of stuff at once efficiently since you said you enjoy that ability and since you play games 50% of the time it will be very fast in games as well.
You also have one of the best, most stable platforms under it as well the 865/875s. Incredibly cheap too for some of those motherboards. Especially if you're willing to use Newegg refurb like I would ($40).
I use a 1700+ on a Nforce 2.. not exactly a hot system but I'm a fan of both Intel/AMDs stuff. Nothing wrong with the P4C at all, and sounds like its right up your alley. If I was to buy today for myself, what I recommended would be my pick for myself as well.
I honestly prefer Intel though until socket 939 and the NF3-250 is on the streets. Thats what I'm waiting for. I wouldnt suggest you wait, 865 Intel stuff is incredibly cheap now. The price premium on Grantsdale with DDR2 and being new isnt something I'd recommend you wait for
Not worth it.Tough to beat that tried and true Intel platform that has price, maturity, and probably overall stability on its side.
Sounds like your openminded enough to give it a shot as well!
Someone like you needs HT.This is your cheapest option.
Keeping your current CPU's, use this to "limp" along.
I bought one of these for $220 in '02 and sold it for $250 in '03! Something you just don't see with computer hardware!
Anyways, it's a fine MPX2 board. At least mine was.
Cheers!
Keeping your current CPU's, use this to "limp" along.
I bought one of these for $220 in '02 and sold it for $250 in '03! Something you just don't see with computer hardware!
Anyways, it's a fine MPX2 board. At least mine was.
Cheers!
Maximilian
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Originally posted by: BadDaddy
I voted to go the Xeon route. It's the most expensive option which means it should be the best option, right?
Hell no lol but duel xeons would be damn good to have!! dosent let me vote though
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Well, there is one thing.... My Tiger MP would not work with my SCSI card and my Radeon 9700. I just couldn't boot off of the SCSI card. The Gigabyte board allows me to. I don't know if this board would.Originally posted by: shuttleteam
This is your cheapest option.
Keeping your current CPU's, use this to "limp" along.
I bought one of these for $220 in '02 and sold it for $250 in '03! Something you just don't see with computer hardware!
Anyways, it's a fine MPX2 board. At least mine was.
Cheers!
I've heard nothing but good things about these boards. Why did they make so few?
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