Hey, jerks.... (I think I've made my selection)

[Chaotic42]

Now that I have your attention :heart:
Well, after 30 minutes of toil and 2 decent lacerations, I've discovered that the CPU1 socket on my motherboard is dead. CPU0 works fine.


Edit: The whole system is shot. The PSU is fused to the board. I need a new board, and I'm going to go ahead and upgrade the CPU(s). My decision is now either getting another dually MP system with the 2800s, getting a single A64, or maybe venturing into dually Xeon land.

Edit: I got the connector off. The 5V lines are completely melted. The plastic is gone. Like vaporized. The copper connectors are black and slightly melted.

Edit: What do you guys think about this?

Here's what I ordered:

Gigabyte GA-7DPXDW Board
2x2800 MP
PC Power and Cooling 510W Deluxe PSU-$220

 

[mechBgon]

If you're the original owner, might look at your purchase date and see if it's still under warranty, too.

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: mechBgon
If you're the original owner, might look at your purchase date and see if it's still under warranty, too.

Nah, it's not. I've already returned it once for a keyboard related problem, and I think they gave me the same one back.

 

[mechBgon]

Bummer And it's not something dumb like a screw that sneaked under the mobo or anything? You had it out of the case yet?

Regarding the poll options, it'll help if people know what you use the system for. For gaming, a fast single processor is going to be better than your duallie (duh). If you want to game while simultaneously encoding video, well that is another thing.

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: mechBgon
Bummer And it's not something dumb like a screw that sneaked under the mobo or anything? You had it out of the case yet?

Regarding the poll options, it'll help if people know what you use the system for. For gaming, a fast single processor is going to be better than your duallie (duh). If you want to game while simultaneously encoding video, well that is another thing.

I do lots of crap. I like being able to run Bryce or Cool Edit 2K while I'm doing something else. I'd like to stay with a dually, but the new AMD stuff is hideously expensive.

 

[AWhackWhiteBoy]

not sure what the system is worth to you, a modern pc would offer the same speed as those duals. anyhow, $200 would get you back on your feet....
here

 

[mechBgon]

Ok, then I put in my vote under "new motherboard"

 

[MDE]

Get the board AWWB linked to (or a similar one), looks good, the only weaknesses I see are being limited to a 266MHz FSB (which doesn't matter for dual XP 1800+), the Intel NIC (jk ), and it's a bit cramped together.

 

[Schadenfroh]

do they make any dual mobos that accept regular pc3200 memory non ecc unbuffered?

 

[AWhackWhiteBoy]

that gigabyte i posted takes non-ecc or ecc,your pick. and you can underclock ram if you must. Athlon MPs only run at 266fsb so your not going to get a dually board running any faster. its a stability thing.

edit: for $534, including shipping, he could get that gigabyte mobo and dual 2800+ barton based MPs and reuse his ram

 

[Megatomic]

I voted on buying a new/used dual Athlon MP motherboard.

 

[InlineFive]

Here is what I would do. First you sell your remaining processor and motherboard. Next you buy the following hardware.

1. 2 x Opteron 240 (1.4Ghz, 1MB) = $424
2. MSI K8T800 Dual-CPU Mobo = $205
Le Grande System Total = $629.00

Not only would it be extremly fast but it has an AGP slot for games (alas no 64/66 PCI) and it would support your PC2100 memory. You might need to buy a PCI adapter for your Raptors (I think you have those in any case). That goes to show that you can build a good Dual-Processor rig for under $800.

If you do get this make sure and tell us how fast WinXP AMD64 Beta works on it.

-Por

 

[AWhackWhiteBoy]

those processors are $212 a peice, so the grand total is $628,plus his ram would be a bottleneck and it would be wise to change. i doubt they could touch 2800+ either, not to mention his software won't use the 64bit extensions.

 

[Chaotic42]

Thanks for the posts, guys. I have that very motherboard, so I'm well aware of its advantages, and its shortcomings. Here's my rig (phobos):

Link

I do have a 64/66 U160 SCSI adapter for my 10K drive.

 

[CZroe]

Ah! A fellow BP6 owner

 

[charloscarlies]

Don't the XP chips work as duals anyways? I swear I remember hearing that....but I can't verify it. Why not try a couple of 2500-3000 XP's (assuming it works)?

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: charloscarlies
Don't the XP chips work as duals anyways? I swear I remember hearing that....but I can't verify it. Why not try a couple of 2500-3000 XP's (assuming it works)?

Some do. However, the 760MP and MPX boards only support a 266MHz bus, not the 333 MHz that the newer XPs use.

 

[AWhackWhiteBoy]

the XP and MP are the same chip aside from the different bus and a minor difference to limit/give it the ability to be multi-processor. i've heard people removing or closing a CPU bridge that turned it into an MP

 

[aka1nas]

Yes the chips can be fairly easily modded. If you don't need the onboard RAID of the gigabyte board, maybe look at getting a used IWILL MPX2 off FS/FT or off 2CPUs for sale forum. If you want a new board, I would probably recommend the K7D or the chaintech MPX board. As you are already an MPX veteran, you already know all the shortcomings and quirks of the platform. The only other thing I have to add is that the MSI K7D allows multi adjustments of up to 12.5x(2000+), which your chips are 99.99999999% likely of being able to do at probably stock voltage for a small free performance boost if you care about that.

 

[thraxes]

Replace the board, end of story. The 1800 duallie will still last you until you have the cash for a dual Opteron BTX setup

 

[Kwatt]

Originally posted by: thraxes
Replace the board, end of story. The 1800 duallie will still last you until you have the cash for a dual Opteron BTX setup

What thraxes said!

I voted something else. Because I did not know your spending limit.
My 1st dualie was a pentium pro and I ended up with 3 of them. I then went to a BP6 with 400's.
Last year I went back to single (1700). I just picked up a couple of 533's for the BP6 and i'm again.

I'm saving for faster dualie.(2x24?'s) Dualie's just respond better or it seems to me anyway. I don't intend to ever spend any money for a new system that is not at dualie.

I'm not a gamer and I don't need to have 65 gazillion colors on the screen. The only software I run that may be SMP aware is TMPGEnc. For what I do I think I would prefer 2@1400 than 1@ 3000. The 3000 will be quicker but the 2 1400's will allow the foreground process to work smoother when running 2 single threaded apps as long as disk access does not become a problem.






Kwatt

 

[Chaotic42]

Well, I do game quite a bit. I'd say that's about 50% of what I do on the computer.

The thing is that I have modded XP processors. I'm worried that if I get a new $200 board (which won't be a Gigabyte board, this thing has given me nothing but problems), I may still have the same problem.

I just spent another hour trying to get it to work, no luck though.

 

[Ilmater]

I posted something else, but I decided I disagree with it. It's not worth paying $200 to avoid wasting the use of a processor that costs $50. Either do nothing, get a new mobo/proc, or get a new dualie mobo/proc.

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: Ilmater
I posted something else, but I decided I disagree with it. It's not worth paying $200 to avoid wasting the use of a processor that costs $50. Either do nothing, get a new mobo/proc, or get a new dualie mobo/proc.

Heh, back at square one, I see.

A new board, and 2 2800+ processors will be $550.

Ouch.

 

[aka1nas]

At that point you should just do Opterons i think. Otherwise, get cheaper proc(s) and mod the multipliers.