Hershey's fake chocolate

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OverVolt

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Milk foods are really prevalent in America and I think alot of people eat them just because it seems normal but they are actually lactose intolerant.

"The frequency of lactose intolerance ranges from 5% in Northern European to more than 90% in some African and Asian countries.[6]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose_intolerance

IIRC something like 90% of Asians are lactose intolerant and yet I'll see them eating CHEESEburgers and then bemoan the following stomach ache, and blame the unhealthy american diet. I was hoping to see it explicitly stated on wiki for the rate of lactose intolerance among Asians, but wiki fails pretty bad as usual. I'm part Irish I'm good to go on lactose ;). Everybody should know if they have lactase persistence in their family tree or not. Diary is one of my comfort foods and typically makes me feel a whole lot better, other people not so much.

Anywho Hersey's chocolate doesn't bother me. I tend to prefer it really.
 
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ControlD

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You guys are full of shit. Try making some decent Smores over the campfire with your fancy European chocolate. Epic failure.

Ever rode a roller coaster at Ghirardelli Park? Didn't think so.

Remember those Toblerone bars the GIs looked forward to getting in their ration packs? Neither does anyone else.

Hershey's +3, everything else -infinity.
 
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Japan says "Hello" at 729.

Fun fact. Michelin has been criticized because for some arbitrary reason, they seem to be much more lenient towards japanese resteraunts, possibly in order to increase Michelin brand awareness in Japan.

Also, japan has twice as many restaurants per capita than the US.
 

Fritzo

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You guys are full of shit. Try making some decent Smores over the campfire with your fancy European chocolate. Epic failure.

Ever rode a roller coaster at Ghirardelli Park? Didn't think so.

Remember those Toblerone bars the GIs looked forward to getting in their ration packs? Neither does anyone else.

Hershey's +3, everything else -infinity.

To be fair, Hershey's is a big conglomerate, so it can afford to make a theme park.

Also, you should be able to make smores out of any kind of chocolate, though at 2-3x the price, not sure why you'd want to.
 

ControlD

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To be fair, Hershey's is a big conglomerate, so it can afford to make a theme park.

Also, you should be able to make smores out of any kind of chocolate, though at 2-3x the price, not sure why you'd want to.

It's a big conglomerate because everyone loves it. :D

To make proper smores you need chocolate with a low melting point. You aren't going to get that with a $10 bar of chocolate. Hell, I had a Hershey's bar turn into liquid in my pocket. Took the bar out and carefully placed it on the kitchen counter. Came back an hour later and like magic I had a perfectly good, delicious Hershey's bar waiting for me. It was almost a religious experience.
 

Fritzo

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It's a big conglomerate because everyone loves it. :D

To make proper smores you need chocolate with a low melting point. You aren't going to get that with a $10 bar of chocolate. Hell, I had a Hershey's bar turn into liquid in my pocket. Took the bar out and carefully placed it on the kitchen counter. Came back an hour later and like magic I had a perfectly good, delicious Hershey's bar waiting for me. It was almost a religious experience.

Again, this is weird because European chocolate has a higher cocoa butter content, making it MORE prone to melting than most American chocolate. If anything, it should melt even better.
 

ControlD

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Again, this is weird because European chocolate has a higher cocoa butter content, making it MORE prone to melting than most American chocolate. If anything, it should melt even better.

Are we talking milk chocolate here or that nasty 90% chocolate garbage people pass off as refined eating? Most European chocolate I have had has been the later type.

The only experience I have with European milk chocolate is the stuff I had in Germany which made me homesick because I couldn't find a decent Hershey's bar anywhere. You would think those people never watched "Saving Private Ryan". I suppose you could make smores with that stuff. Seems pretty unpatriotic though.
 

Fritzo

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Are we talking milk chocolate here or that nasty 90% chocolate garbage people pass off as refined eating? Most European chocolate I have had has been the later type.

The only experience I have with European milk chocolate is the stuff I had in Germany which made me homesick because I couldn't find a decent Hershey's bar anywhere. You would think those people never watched "Saving Private Ryan". I suppose you could make smores with that stuff. Seems pretty unpatriotic though.

Dark chocolate is not European chocolate, it's chocolate with a higher cacao content. Hershey's makes dark chocolate as well. European milk chocolate is sold in America under brands like Cadburys and Dove.
 
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Are we talking milk chocolate here or that nasty 90% chocolate garbage people pass off as refined eating? Most European chocolate I have had has been the later type.

The only experience I have with European milk chocolate is the stuff I had in Germany which made me homesick because I couldn't find a decent Hershey's bar anywhere. You would think those people never watched "Saving Private Ryan". I suppose you could make smores with that stuff. Seems pretty unpatriotic though.

WW2 military chocolate was terrible though. It was meant as quick energy and tasted shitty. There was a reason soldiers preferred to trade them to civilians, and the civilians were quick to stop accepting the chocolate. You couldn't make smores because they were specifically designed to not melt and also crumbled under pressure, rather than break like the chocolate we're used to.

Europe has extremely lax chocolate laws. The US forbids using cocoa alternatives in chocolate in order to be considered "chocolate"

The EU allows alternatives to be used and still be called regular chocolate.
 
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Scarpozzi

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A bunch of whiners in this thread. If you don't like it, don't buy it and don't eat it.

Milk chocolate was created specifically to appeal to the masses(specifically children) and reduce costs. It's sweeter and easier to melt into molds.

Dark chocolate can still be made into milk chocolate, so it's definitely a better product...but this thread is making obvious statements...like comparing Velveeta to sharp cheddar cheese... You're comparing two products that have their place in the market.
 

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Dark chocolate is not European chocolate, it's chocolate with a higher cacao content. Hershey's makes dark chocolate as well. European milk chocolate is sold in America under brands like Cadburys and Dove.

I know, I was just trying to have to some fun on an otherwise crappy work day.

Truth be told, I don't even like chocolate that much lol.
 

ControlD

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A bunch of whiners in this thread. If you don't like it, don't buy it and don't eat it.

Milk chocolate was created specifically to appeal to the masses(specifically children) and reduce costs. It's sweeter and easier to melt into molds.

Dark chocolate can still be made into milk chocolate, so it's definitely a better product...but this thread is making obvious statements...like comparing Velveeta to sharp cheddar cheese... You're comparing two products that have their place in the market.

Why would anyone compare an inferior product like sharp cheddar to Velveeta?
 

phreaqe

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Why would anyone compare an inferior product like sharp cheddar to Velveeta?

Motion for ban! Velveeta is one of the most disgusting things i have ever eaten. I don't usually spit food out, but i could not handle swallowing the velveeta. Living in Wisconsin i get to eat real cheese so i am a bit spoiled compared to a lot of people though.
 

ControlD

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Motion for ban! Velveeta is one of the most disgusting things i have ever eaten. I don't usually spit food out, but i could not handle swallowing the velveeta. Living in Wisconsin i get to eat real cheese so i am a bit spoiled compared to a lot of people though.

That kind of talk got you put on a list back in the 1950's.

But seriously, Velveeta is pretty gross but it has some uses (dips and such). I actually grew up eating Velveeta sandwiches. I believe it hardened me for my more difficult obstacles later in life.
 

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But seriously, Velveeta is pretty gross but it has some uses (dips and such). I actually grew up eating Velveeta sandwiches. I believe it hardened me for my more difficult obstacles later in life.

It or Cheese-Whiz is still the one authentic cheese for a Philly cheese steak.
 

Scarpozzi

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That kind of talk got you put on a list back in the 1950's.

But seriously, Velveeta is pretty gross but it has some uses (dips and such). I actually grew up eating Velveeta sandwiches. I believe it hardened me for my more difficult obstacles later in life.

But that's my point exactly. It has its place. Great for making rotel dip or grilled cheese. That's why they made the stuff....it's not supposed to replace traditional cheeses...

Milk chocolate is the same way. The stuff is a candy product. Most of what hershey makes are called candy bars. I don't consider fine chocolate to be candy....especially at what it costs from a chocolatier or confectioner. The concepts may start with the same ingredients, but the finished products are very different. Fine chocolates can sell for many times the cost of a Hershey bar... Ounce per ounce, that should state the difference in the products.

I used cheddar as an example, but many handcrafted cheeses cost upwards of $16/lb US. (mmm...sheeps milk). I think Velveeta is around $2-3/lb. And for all the Velveeta hate, the product was revolutionary in its day as it combined the whey & curd after separation along with some stabilizers to create a cheese for the masses. That kind of cheese is what made the american cheeseburger and egg mcmuffin, so don't be hatin'!

BTW....I did the cheese to chocolate comparison because both of the more expensive versions pair well with wine. :D Hershey's chocolate and Grilled cheese pair well with a glass of milk.
 
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Kushina

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>.> I prefer Hershey's over Godiva

Wait... it does say it's milk chocolate as opposed to chocolate flavored product.
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ControlD

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BTW....I did the cheese to chocolate comparison because both of the more expensive versions pair well with wine. :D Hershey's chocolate and Grilled cheese pair well with a glass of milk.

On the other hand, Hershey's and beer go quite well together!
 

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Wait... it does say it's milk chocolate as opposed to chocolate flavored product.

Hersheys milk chocolate is milk chocolate. It's made the same way chocolate is made in Belgium, Switzerland, or anywhere else they make it. The euro-snobbery stems from supposed differences in technique, ingredients, etc.

Personally I think they're mostly right. Maybe it's the water. Hersheys is fine but it doesn't have the fineness of flavor and texture that really good european chocolate has. They probably just can't market it at what they'd have to charge. Different segment.
 
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Hersheys milk chocolate is milk chocolate. It's made the same way chocolate is made in Belgium, Switzerland, or anywhere else they make it. The euro-snobbery stems from supposed differences in technique, ingredients, etc.

Personally I think they're mostly right. Maybe it's the water. Hersheys is fine but it doesn't have the fineness of flavor and texture that really good european chocolate has. They probably just can't market it at what they'd have to charge. Different segment.

You're comparing Hershey's mass marketed chocolate to really good European chocolate?
 

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Are we talking milk chocolate here or that nasty 90% chocolate garbage people pass off as refined eating? Most European chocolate I have had has been the later type.

The only experience I have with European milk chocolate is the stuff I had in Germany which made me homesick because I couldn't find a decent Hershey's bar anywhere. You would think those people never watched "Saving Private Ryan". I suppose you could make smores with that stuff. Seems pretty unpatriotic though.

+1 Don't ever eat the dessert pastries in europe either. They look great. Saliva sucking cotton mouth inducing tasteless contrivances. No wonder the europeans are a bunch of stick people.
 

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You're comparing Hershey's mass marketed chocolate to really good European chocolate?

I'm saying it's chocolate, not "chocolate flavored product," or whatever. I think in the second para I made it pretty clear that I think fine European chocolate is superior. But then there are mass market European chocolates that aren't much better than Hershey, I suppose.
 

Sonikku

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Hershey's tastes like chalk. Honestly, I don't know how they stay in business.