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Fritzo

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Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: Fritzo
I don't care for them ever since my sister-in-law's "perfect family dog" pitt bull nonchalantly walked across the room during a birthday party and bit my then 3 yr old son in the face for no apparent reason. It literally walked up, opened up it's mouth, and tried to swallow his face whole! He had puncture wounds on his temples and cheeks. I was standing next to him at the time and dropped my cake and drink, then kicked the dog in the stomach (he weighed a good 90-100 lbs) and he flew a few feet in the air and ran. I got a pulled tendon out of the deal. They ended up getting rid of the dog a week later.

Yeah...they get a bad rap :|

Some dogs don't do well with people visiting their house, and being a child or not doesn't have anything to do with it.

Part of the reason Pit Bulls get a bad rap is that they do so much damage when they do bite. I have a cousin who's dog bit my 5 year old sister. The dog was one of those Lhasa Apso (spelling?) dogs though, so it didn't do much damage.

Pit Bull's jaw strength is twice that of a German Shepherd, and a German Shepherd can chew through an aluminum poll. So when they bite, they bite.

Now think about that... the dog most probably wan't trying to kill your kid. If it had, with that jaw strength, your child would be dead and there is nothing you could have done to stop it. It was either trying to A) Establish dominance (something pretty much EVERY dog does) or B) trying to play, but just did it a little too hard.

If that's how a dog that large establishes dominence, I want no part of it.

BTW- We've owned a pure Lhasa for 2 years now. If they aren't raised around kids, they can get very nervous around them and get nippy. However, their little mouths are pretty harmless. Ours has been around kids since it was 10 weeks old and has never hurt anyone intentionally (I say that because the little ^*%$^*@#%$ tripped me once while I had a tray full of food last Thanksgiving).
 

datalink7

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Jan 23, 2001
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Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: Fritzo
I don't care for them ever since my sister-in-law's "perfect family dog" pitt bull nonchalantly walked across the room during a birthday party and bit my then 3 yr old son in the face for no apparent reason. It literally walked up, opened up it's mouth, and tried to swallow his face whole! He had puncture wounds on his temples and cheeks. I was standing next to him at the time and dropped my cake and drink, then kicked the dog in the stomach (he weighed a good 90-100 lbs) and he flew a few feet in the air and ran. I got a pulled tendon out of the deal. They ended up getting rid of the dog a week later.

Yeah...they get a bad rap :|

Some dogs don't do well with people visiting their house, and being a child or not doesn't have anything to do with it.

Part of the reason Pit Bulls get a bad rap is that they do so much damage when they do bite. I have a cousin who's dog bit my 5 year old sister. The dog was one of those Lhasa Apso (spelling?) dogs though, so it didn't do much damage.

Pit Bull's jaw strength is twice that of a German Shepherd, and a German Shepherd can chew through an aluminum poll. So when they bite, they bite.

Now think about that... the dog most probably wan't trying to kill your kid. If it had, with that jaw strength, your child would be dead and there is nothing you could have done to stop it. It was either trying to A) Establish dominance (something pretty much EVERY dog does) or B) trying to play, but just did it a little too hard.

If that's how a dog that large establishes dominence, I want no part of it.

BTW- We've owned a pure Lhasa for 2 years now. If they aren't raised around kids, they can get very nervous around them and get nippy. However, their little mouths are pretty harmless. Ours has been around kids since it was 10 weeks old and has never hurt anyone intentionally (I say that because the little ^*%$^*@#%$ tripped me once while I had a tray full of food last Thanksgiving).

See, that's part of my point. A dog is a dog. Any dog, if not raised around kids, can get nervous and get nippy. The difference is that in a larger dog, they do more damage. It has nothing to do with being a pit bull.

And I still assert that if the dog would have been trying to really hurt your kid, your kid would be dead.
 

Fritzo

Lifer
Jan 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: Fritzo
I don't care for them ever since my sister-in-law's "perfect family dog" pitt bull nonchalantly walked across the room during a birthday party and bit my then 3 yr old son in the face for no apparent reason. It literally walked up, opened up it's mouth, and tried to swallow his face whole! He had puncture wounds on his temples and cheeks. I was standing next to him at the time and dropped my cake and drink, then kicked the dog in the stomach (he weighed a good 90-100 lbs) and he flew a few feet in the air and ran. I got a pulled tendon out of the deal. They ended up getting rid of the dog a week later.

Yeah...they get a bad rap :|

Some dogs don't do well with people visiting their house, and being a child or not doesn't have anything to do with it.

Part of the reason Pit Bulls get a bad rap is that they do so much damage when they do bite. I have a cousin who's dog bit my 5 year old sister. The dog was one of those Lhasa Apso (spelling?) dogs though, so it didn't do much damage.

Pit Bull's jaw strength is twice that of a German Shepherd, and a German Shepherd can chew through an aluminum poll. So when they bite, they bite.

Now think about that... the dog most probably wan't trying to kill your kid. If it had, with that jaw strength, your child would be dead and there is nothing you could have done to stop it. It was either trying to A) Establish dominance (something pretty much EVERY dog does) or B) trying to play, but just did it a little too hard.

If that's how a dog that large establishes dominence, I want no part of it.

BTW- We've owned a pure Lhasa for 2 years now. If they aren't raised around kids, they can get very nervous around them and get nippy. However, their little mouths are pretty harmless. Ours has been around kids since it was 10 weeks old and has never hurt anyone intentionally (I say that because the little ^*%$^*@#%$ tripped me once while I had a tray full of food last Thanksgiving).

See, that's part of my point. A dog is a dog. Any dog, if not raised around kids, can get nervous and get nippy. The difference is that in a larger dog, they do more damage. It has nothing to do with being a pit bull.

And I still assert that if the dog would have been trying to really hurt your kid, your kid would be dead.

The dog was raised around 3 kids and was constantly hurting them as well (again, intentionally or unintentionally, I don't know), which is why they got rid of it. My point is when you have a dog that can do that much damage and the breed has a tendency for quirkiness, why even take the chance? If you have a dachshund that's quirky, it's not going to kill anybody. St. Bernards are gigantic dogs and have a very powerful jaw, but you never hear of them going for anyone's throat on a whim. Our local dog warden has such a problem with pits that he's campaigning for owners to require a special license and take classes upon ownership on the next ballot. This is a guy that deals with dogs as a career, and if he's seeing a problem, there very well may be one.
 

NuclearNed

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May 18, 2001
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Here is another vote for "chows suck"

It is perfectly natural for any dog to defend their territory. The problem with chows is that they think their territory is wherever they are at. I once walked out of my apartment door to see a chow that I had never seen before about 75-100 feet away from me. The chow instantly started acting aggressive and charged at me. Other chows I have been around have acted similarly. They are the only breed that really frightens me, and that includes pit bulls. For the record, most pit bulls I have been around have been really lovable, friendly dogs.
 

Calin

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Apr 9, 2001
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Originally posted by: dr150
Originally posted by: CraigRT
they are not bad dogs. i have friends with them, and they are ultra friendly and playful.
there is a freaking ban on pitbulls in a nearby town... obviously the people there are just dog haters, because anyone with half a brain realizes the dogs only behave how they are trained to behave... frickin' morons.

You're absolutely right.

However, the higher incidence rate of pit bull attacks is a direct result of fvckhead owners who directly seek these dogs out for their "abilities".

Owners use these dogs as their attack toys.

If there was a culture of loving pit bulls as pets rather than their formidable jaws, they wouldn't be any more apt to attack viciosously than any other breeds.

Heck, my parents had a toy poodle that was way more innately vicious than a German Shepard I picked up that was maltreated at a kennel.

The difference is: if ten toy poodle attack (in a pack) a woman or a child, that woman or child can escape (running or fighting). If one big dog attack a strong man, that man chances are much slimmer...
Oh, and many people will think: "But that toy poodle is such a nice dog, how can it...", and will consider a big dog a danger even when seeing nothing more than its shadow.
Anyway, big dogs are (usually) much more calm than small dogs, small dogs are just packets of pure energy almost ready to explode :D