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anxi80

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Originally posted by: KK
You typed that in less than a minute?
in all threads i create, i do the same formula. quote the article, link the source, tell what i searched for, and then write out my thoughts/commentary on the topic on a new post for easier quoting/citation. so i copied and pasted that 2nd post from notepad (obviously ;) )
 

StageLeft

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I don't see this as redeeming pitbulls at all. They merely saw an excuse to fight and took it. They are a notoriously aggressive breed, and no it is not "just the owner". I guarantee you that if I raised tigers the way I raised my house cats I'd probably be dead today. My cats are not aggressive, but some animals inately are. Anybody pretending that a labrador retriever and a pitbull brought up in the same environment will not have different personalities is smoking too many crack rocks.
 

anxi80

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Originally posted by: meltdown75
They even took a pit bull away from a blind & disabled woman, even after she pleaded to city council and explained that the dog was responsible for her well-being because it was her best friend.
damn, thats terrible. a good example of a few bad eggs ruining it for everyone else.
 

silverpig

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
I don't see this as redeeming pitbulls at all. They merely saw an excuse to fight and took it. They are a notoriously aggressive breed, and no it is not "just the owner". I guarantee you that if I raised tigers the way I raised my house cats I'd probably be dead today. My cats are not aggressive, but some animals inately are. Anybody pretending that a labrador retriever and a pitbull brought up in the same environment will not have different personalities is smoking too many crack rocks.

The tiger/cat analogy brings up a good point, but with pitbulls it's not so black and white. It's really a little from column A, a little from column B with them. It mostly is the owners fault for mis-training them, but then again, those owners did get pitbulls because they are inately more aggressive. Grey areas are touchy.
 

Proletariat

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Originally posted by: CadetLee
One of our cats was killed in our backyard by a neighboring pit bull..

There are a lot of pits in our area..a girl I work with used to have one, and she doesn't trust them anymore either. They're unpredictable, imho.
Damn dude weren't you pissed about your cat?

Some people are saying that the owners are at fault for the pit bulls behaviour. Thats true, but the sad fact is most people train these dogs to be mean so the stereotype is in many ways rooted in the truth.

I doubt anyone can force these people to stop training their dogs in this way so banning them is pretty much the best course of action at this point in time.
 

Dave332

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Pit bulls are great dogs. They are extremely easy to train, though, which is why dumbasses train them to be vicious. They could just as easily be trained to do anything else.
 

Hossenfeffer

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Originally posted by: CraigRT
they are not bad dogs. i have friends with them, and they are ultra friendly and playful.
there is a freaking ban on pitbulls in a nearby town... obviously the people there are just dog haters, because anyone with half a brain realizes the dogs only behave how they are trained to behave... frickin' morons.

While I've got little to nothing against pit bulls and agree that it's largely on the owner to properly train the dog, I also don't have a problem with outright bans on the things. If there isn't a pit bull (or insert other "Dangerous" dog name) around, it can't bite you. If you want some companionship, I'm guessing there are hundreds, if not thousands of other prospective pets available.
 

Rudee

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
I don't see this as redeeming pitbulls at all. They merely saw an excuse to fight and took it. They are a notoriously aggressive breed, and no it is not "just the owner". I guarantee you that if I raised tigers the way I raised my house cats I'd probably be dead today. My cats are not aggressive, but some animals inately are. Anybody pretending that a labrador retriever and a pitbull brought up in the same environment will not have different personalities is smoking too many crack rocks.

I agree. They were simply looking to tear a chunk out of someone or something, and the other dog was the obvious first choice.

 

Ilmater

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Jun 13, 2002
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Originally posted by: CadetLee
One of our cats was killed in our backyard by a neighboring pit bull..

There are a lot of pits in our area..a girl I work with used to have one, and she doesn't trust them anymore either. They're unpredictable, imho.
If it killed a cat, then it was only doing the best thing for all humankind. All praise the pit bull!
 

Ilmater

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Originally posted by: ggnl
Originally posted by: anxi80

if this is a repost, i apologize. just notify me and i will request a thread closure. searched the following terms (sorted by date): pit, bull, pit bull, pitbull, pitbulls, pit bulls, heroic, chow, omaha

lol, are you really that scared of the repost nazis?
That's what I was thinking. I've never seen anyone cover their azz the way he did.
 

Proletariat

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Originally posted by: Ilmater
Originally posted by: CadetLee
One of our cats was killed in our backyard by a neighboring pit bull..

There are a lot of pits in our area..a girl I work with used to have one, and she doesn't trust them anymore either. They're unpredictable, imho.
If it killed a cat, then it was only doing the best thing for all humankind. All praise the pit bull!
God dude what is your beef?
 

rh71

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you have to think that if the pit bulls can jump the fence that easily... wouldn't others in the area be concerned for their safety from them at the same time ?
 

BudAshes

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Chows are the meanest fvcking dogs. My friend almost had the artery in his arm sever by one biting him when he was feeding it for his neighbors.
 

40Hands

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Only dog I have ever been bitten by was a chow as well.. The dog was fine one minute then the next thing I know it bit me on the top of my head and and almost got through my sweatshirt. Then I managed to grab it by the neck and hold it back, blood streaming down my forehead. Good times.
 

Fritzo

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I don't care for them ever since my sister-in-law's "perfect family dog" pitt bull nonchalantly walked across the room during a birthday party and bit my then 3 yr old son in the face for no apparent reason. It literally walked up, opened up it's mouth, and tried to swallow his face whole! He had puncture wounds on his temples and cheeks. I was standing next to him at the time and dropped my cake and drink, then kicked the dog in the stomach (he weighed a good 90-100 lbs) and he flew a few feet in the air and ran. I got a pulled tendon out of the deal. They ended up getting rid of the dog a week later.

Yeah...they get a bad rap :|
 

datalink7

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In my experience, Chows are more aggressive than Pit Bulls. In fact, Pit Bulls were bred to fight animals, not people. I've never met a mean Pit Bull (I've owned one half pit/half rott, which one of the nicest dogs I've ever owned, and met 20+ pit bulls).
 

dr150

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Originally posted by: CraigRT
they are not bad dogs. i have friends with them, and they are ultra friendly and playful.
there is a freaking ban on pitbulls in a nearby town... obviously the people there are just dog haters, because anyone with half a brain realizes the dogs only behave how they are trained to behave... frickin' morons.

You're absolutely right.

However, the higher incidence rate of pit bull attacks is a direct result of fvckhead owners who directly seek these dogs out for their "abilities".

Owners use these dogs as their attack toys.

If there was a culture of loving pit bulls as pets rather than their formidable jaws, they wouldn't be any more apt to attack viciosously than any other breeds.

Heck, my parents had a toy poodle that was way more innately vicious than a German Shepard I picked up that was maltreated at a kennel.
 

meltdown75

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Originally posted by: dr150
Originally posted by: CraigRT
they are not bad dogs. i have friends with them, and they are ultra friendly and playful.
there is a freaking ban on pitbulls in a nearby town... obviously the people there are just dog haters, because anyone with half a brain realizes the dogs only behave how they are trained to behave... frickin' morons.

You're absolutely right.

However, the higher incidence rate of pit bull attacks is a direct result of fvckhead owners who directly seek these dogs out for their "abilities".

Owners use these dogs as their attack toys.

If there was a culture of loving pit bulls as pets rather than their formidable jaws, they wouldn't be any more apt to attack viciosously than any other breeds.

Heck, my parents had a toy poodle that was way more innately vicious than a German Shepard I picked up that was maltreated at a kennel.

qft

pit bulls + some of the types who want to own pitbulls = trouble.
 

datalink7

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Jan 23, 2001
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Originally posted by: Fritzo
I don't care for them ever since my sister-in-law's "perfect family dog" pitt bull nonchalantly walked across the room during a birthday party and bit my then 3 yr old son in the face for no apparent reason. It literally walked up, opened up it's mouth, and tried to swallow his face whole! He had puncture wounds on his temples and cheeks. I was standing next to him at the time and dropped my cake and drink, then kicked the dog in the stomach (he weighed a good 90-100 lbs) and he flew a few feet in the air and ran. I got a pulled tendon out of the deal. They ended up getting rid of the dog a week later.

Yeah...they get a bad rap :|

Some dogs don't do well with people visiting their house, and being a child or not doesn't have anything to do with it.

Part of the reason Pit Bulls get a bad rap is that they do so much damage when they do bite. I have a cousin who's dog bit my 5 year old sister. The dog was one of those Lhasa Apso (spelling?) dogs though, so it didn't do much damage.

Pit Bull's jaw strength is twice that of a German Shepherd, and a German Shepherd can chew through an aluminum poll. So when they bite, they bite.

Now think about that... the dog most probably wan't trying to kill your kid. If it had, with that jaw strength, your child would be dead and there is nothing you could have done to stop it. It was either trying to A) Establish dominance (something pretty much EVERY dog does) or B) trying to play, but just did it a little too hard.