Looks to me like 90% yes, 10% no...all votes from established Anandtech.com members...There's no way you can blame "spammers" or computer hackers here. These are real results. People are ready for a liberty-oriented revolution, and RP is the only one offering it.
- Sep 26, 2000
- 28,559
- 4
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I will be analyzing and reporting the official results tomorrow.
If you said you would vote for Ron Paul because he would be the most easily beat by a Democrat I have not counted your vote as a Ron Paul vote.
If you have less than 500 posts your vote will not be counted.
If you said you would not vote for him because you think he has no chance and want your vote to go to one of the Republicans higher in the polls, I will count that as a Yes for Ron Paul since he is still your first choice.
If you said you would vote for Ron Paul because he would be the most easily beat by a Democrat I have not counted your vote as a Ron Paul vote.
If you have less than 500 posts your vote will not be counted.
If you said you would not vote for him because you think he has no chance and want your vote to go to one of the Republicans higher in the polls, I will count that as a Yes for Ron Paul since he is still your first choice.
Less than 500 posts?
Thats a bit extreme. I've been here for 3+ years...visiting the site every day, and posting every few days when I find an interesting topic.
I think you should count the vote of anyone with 50+ post. It is obvious they are regular members, and not "spammers" who created an account just to vote in your poll...
Thats a bit extreme. I've been here for 3+ years...visiting the site every day, and posting every few days when I find an interesting topic.
I think you should count the vote of anyone with 50+ post. It is obvious they are regular members, and not "spammers" who created an account just to vote in your poll...
Gee what a suprise. Lets make votes not count, lets skew the results, lets not take votes as votes.
Siddhartha
Lifer
- Oct 17, 1999
- 12,505
- 3
- 81
I voted yes because it would be entertaining to see Mr Paul running as the GOP nominee.
And I am interested in what would happen to the GOP after he lost with a bigger margin than Goldwater did in 1964.
Hlafordlaes
Senior member
- May 21, 2006
- 271
- 2
- 81
NO.
Constitutional fundamentalism ignores diffs twixt agrarian and post-industrial society. Latter includes extreme social fragmentation, precluding use of extended families for mutual econ and health support. So, tho public programs need upgrading from liberal help-anyone-eligible to game theory-based restrictions to limit cheating, they are needed even if not contemplated by Founding Fathers. US history in 1930's shows what happens when no social net at all exists ~ bad for business! Same enlightened self-interest reasoning applied by Ford in arguing why to pay his workers a decent wage ~ consumption drives economy, low and middle income classes drive consumption.
Advocated return to gold standard is woefully dumb-dumb. Confuses trade value of currency with intrinsic value. Growth limited to gold supply gives pre-Bretton Woods sickly results. Current econ mainstream has it right when advocating money supply as key to currency value, inflation and growth management. Bad dollar today is due to extreme Republican deficits, not lack of gold standard.
Finally, guy is an outsider in terms of Beltway constituencies; would have Carter-like troubles in getting any legislative headway with Congress.
Constitutional fundamentalism ignores diffs twixt agrarian and post-industrial society. Latter includes extreme social fragmentation, precluding use of extended families for mutual econ and health support. So, tho public programs need upgrading from liberal help-anyone-eligible to game theory-based restrictions to limit cheating, they are needed even if not contemplated by Founding Fathers. US history in 1930's shows what happens when no social net at all exists ~ bad for business! Same enlightened self-interest reasoning applied by Ford in arguing why to pay his workers a decent wage ~ consumption drives economy, low and middle income classes drive consumption.
Advocated return to gold standard is woefully dumb-dumb. Confuses trade value of currency with intrinsic value. Growth limited to gold supply gives pre-Bretton Woods sickly results. Current econ mainstream has it right when advocating money supply as key to currency value, inflation and growth management. Bad dollar today is due to extreme Republican deficits, not lack of gold standard.
Finally, guy is an outsider in terms of Beltway constituencies; would have Carter-like troubles in getting any legislative headway with Congress.
hlaford 2 posts above...an example of someone who has spent way too much time in political science, and not enough in the real world (or in english composition apparently).
GodlessAstronomer
Lifer
- Oct 27, 2007
- 17,009
- 5
- 0
Hell no.
Edit - I see my vote won't be counted, I'm actually a long time member (iamaelephant) who was banned for no reason and the moderators refuse to answer my emails. Up to you though, but I think it would be silly not to count votes from guys like Capitalizt.
Edit - I see my vote won't be counted, I'm actually a long time member (iamaelephant) who was banned for no reason and the moderators refuse to answer my emails. Up to you though, but I think it would be silly not to count votes from guys like Capitalizt.
Wow, add your "stipulations" after the fact. Do you want a real poll? Or just one you can live with?
Atomic Playboy
Lifer
- Feb 6, 2007
- 16,432
- 1
- 81
My vote no longer matters unless I spam repeatedly. Maybe I should start 300 Ron Paul threads...
The other caveats make sense, but the arbitrary 500 post count is ridiculous. Why don't you just use length of membership? Seems like a better indication of how "loyal" a user is. Really the length of membership or post count shouldn't be a factor at all, unless it's clear that someone made an account solely to post in this thread (which I don't think has happened). So I'd remove this as a requirement.
Or maybe I'm just speaking out of hurt since you want to exclude me. Bastard.
The other caveats make sense, but the arbitrary 500 post count is ridiculous. Why don't you just use length of membership? Seems like a better indication of how "loyal" a user is. Really the length of membership or post count shouldn't be a factor at all, unless it's clear that someone made an account solely to post in this thread (which I don't think has happened). So I'd remove this as a requirement.
Or maybe I'm just speaking out of hurt since you want to exclude me. Bastard.
Tech "Wait. Before we can count your vote, let us see some things first."
Hafen "Uh, ok."
Tech "Are you a registered member of this forum?"
Hafen "Obviously"
Tech "Oh, ok. Do you have the required posts in order to participate?"
Hafen "Well yeah, look under my name"
Tech "Well, you know, we have to check these things to keep the "spam bots" out. Can never be too careful"
Hafen "Right"
Tech "What is your vote?"
Hafen "Yes, I would vote for Ron Paul"
Tech "Wait, you hesitated. Did you mean to say no? Cause I can fix that."
Hafen "No, I said yes to voting for Ron Paul"
Tech "No you don't want Ron Paul or yes you do?"
Hafen "FOR GODS SAKE I SAID YES FOR RON PAUL!"
Tech "Ron Paul supporters are too dramatic"
Hafen "WTF ever man!" <slams door>
:laugh:
Hlafordlaes
Senior member
- May 21, 2006
- 271
- 2
- 81
Try debating the points.
Check, say, on the growth rate of international trade pre- and post Bretton Woods. Read a little about monetarism, make your own statement about money supply and growth. Check out the concept of anomie and make your own statements about 21st century social fragmentation.
[For your info, I've lived in 5 countries and 10 cities, travelled the world for 30 years and speak several languages, of which English is not the most used. My world is, shall we say, hyper-real, as I am retired and tend bar in a Mediterranean port city. I type at night to get my knuckles back in shape after a busy day debating, shall we say, the high and low. My political science is grounded on experience, son, not academe.]
OrganizedChaos
Diamond Member
- Apr 21, 2002
- 4,524
- 0
- 0
child of wonder
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- Aug 31, 2006
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