"Here's a present for Ramadan" on bombs

[UltraQuiet]

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: etech
What I find disturbing is the lie of using pictures of bombs used in Afghanistan with pictures of civilians that were hurt in Iraq.

Why the need to lie in that way? How typical is that of the "Arab press" to distort the facts?

That says a lot about our armed forces then, doesn't it?

What in your opinion does it say about our armed forces?

I don't think it matters whether those bombs were dropped in Afghanistan or in Iraq, the controversy is in the blatant biggotry of our troops. If you find that acceptable, that is quite sad. Someone said that those bombs were dropped in Afghanistan during the month of Ramadan. How would you feel if 9/11 happened on Christamas day with "Merry Christmas" spray painted on the sides of the planes?

It has nothing to do with biggotry. It has to do with dehumanizing your enemy to make it easier to kill him. Only a sick person wants to kill someone else. The way soldiers have always got around this is by dehumanizing the enemy. I know it looks simple to you, sitting in yoiur dorm room running your mouth but it isn't. Go do it, then run your mouth.

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: etech
What I find disturbing is the lie of using pictures of bombs used in Afghanistan with pictures of civilians that were hurt in Iraq.

Why the need to lie in that way? How typical is that of the "Arab press" to distort the facts?

That says a lot about our armed forces then, doesn't it?

What in your opinion does it say about our armed forces?

I don't think it matters whether those bombs were dropped in Afghanistan or in Iraq, the controversy is in the blatant biggotry of our troops. If you find that acceptable, that is quite sad. Someone said that those bombs were dropped in Afghanistan during the month of Ramadan. How would you feel if 9/11 happened on Christamas day with "Merry Christmas" spray painted on the sides of the planes?

"I don't think it matters whether those bombs were dropped in Afghanistan or in Iraq"

So lying, distortion of the truth and blantent dishonesty does not bother you. I see.

Your attempt to distort what I said seems to follow that line very well. Yes, some troops wrote un PC messages on bombs. Are you by that trying to say that all US forces believe the same as those few?


Why does a lie have to be shown to make the point? That is a question I would like to be answered.

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: etech
What I find disturbing is the lie of using pictures of bombs used in Afghanistan with pictures of civilians that were hurt in Iraq.

Why the need to lie in that way? How typical is that of the "Arab press" to distort the facts?

That says a lot about our armed forces then, doesn't it?

What in your opinion does it say about our armed forces?

I don't think it matters whether those bombs were dropped in Afghanistan or in Iraq, the controversy is in the blatant biggotry of our troops. If you find that acceptable, that is quite sad. Someone said that those bombs were dropped in Afghanistan during the month of Ramadan. How would you feel if 9/11 happened on Christamas day with "Merry Christmas" spray painted on the sides of the planes?

"I don't think it matters whether those bombs were dropped in Afghanistan or in Iraq"

So lying, distortion of the truth and blantent dishonesty does not bother you. I see.

Your attempt to distort what I said seems to follow that line very well. Yes, some troops wrote un PC messages on bombs. Are you by that trying to say that all US forces believe the same as those few?


Why does a lie have to be shown to make the point? That is a question I would like to be answered.

I never said that showing a bomb that was dropped on Afghanistan and claiming it was dropped on Iraq was right. I don't see what the difference is when the same type of munitions were dropped on Iraq anyway and those same munitions caused the injuries in the photos. But I guess that is irrelevant. My point was the writings on the bombs. I'm sure that not all the troops beleive the same things as those that wrote on the bombs, but then we have Ultra Quiet (who is anything buy) who says that troops have to dehuminize the enemy. Why don't you guys coordinate your stories.

 

[etech]

LilBlinbBlahIce

Why don't you guys coordinate your stories.

We don't have a playbook to pull our stories from so they may differ based on our personal experiences and knowledge. I know it somewhat discredits that whole "sheep" thing you like to spout but now you'll have to pick which of your 'lines' you want to keep to bash us "guys". Sorry about that.

Ok, you admit that not all US troops believe in the same things as those that wrote on the bombs. What do you believe the troops believe that wrote that message? Does the fact that a Muslim holiday was used as part of the message mean that no action should be taken during a religious holiday?

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: etech
LilBlinbBlahIce

Why don't you guys coordinate your stories.

We don't have a playbook to pull our stories from so they may differ based on our personal experiences and knowledge. I know it somewhat discredits that whole "sheep" thing you like to spout but now you'll have to pick which of your 'lines' you want to keep to bash us "guys". Sorry about that.

Ok, you admit that not all US troops believe in the same things as those that wrote on the bombs. What do you believe the troops believe that wrote that message? Does the fact that a Muslim holiday was used as part of the message mean that no action should be taken during a religious holiday?

No, it just means that is should not be rubbed in the faces of ALL Muslims. The enemy was Al Qaeda, not Islam. Atleast that's the story Bush keeps repeating. Most Muslims would vehemently argue that the actions of terrorists are un-Islamic. People forget that there are over a billion Muslims on this planet, and to lump them all together with the fanatics you see on TV is as bad as saying that all Christians are Nazi's because the Germans were Nazi's. People don't seem to remember that most of the countries in the ME don't have populations exceeding 26 million, so even if all of them were combined, it would still be less than half of all the Muslims in the world, 7 million of whom happen to be American.

 

[hankthedwarf]

Regardless of what side you stood on before the war, once the first bullet flies its time to back your country and your troops 100%! The little things don't matter at that point, its all about keeping our people safe at any cost. Loss of life on either side is a TERRIBLE tragedy, but better "their" tragedy than ours.

Just my POV.

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: hankthedwarf
Regardless of what side you stood on before the war, once the first bullet flies its time to back your country and your troops 100%! The little things don't matter at that point, its all about keeping our people safe at any cost. Loss of life on either side is a TERRIBLE tragedy, but better "their" tragedy than ours.

Just my POV.

I back the troops because it is not their decision where to go and who to fight. I will not blindly back the administration as by doing so I would be giving up my right to question the actions of my govt, and if that becomes the case, I might as well have been under Saddam's rule.

 

[dahunan]

I am curious to know if you think Muslim soldiers would or would not write anything on their munitions if they were bombing America or Europe?

What country has the most polite soldiers?

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Jmman
War is war. It is a longstanding tradition to write on ordinance..........

Well, the target "audience" never (ever) gets to actually read the message.

So they never are offended.

sometimes they get to read the messages (if the weapon is a dud or the plane crashes before it drops its ordinance), which is why they sometimes write things like "If you can read this, you are one lucky beloved patriot (or gomer/chick/whatever)" (vietnam era message my uncle saw). Believe it or not, I have a feeling people being bombed dont care what is written on the side.

For the OP, would anyone care if they had written "Here is a Christmas present!" on the side? Its hard to both respect someone and try to kill him.

 

[konichiwa]

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: etech
What I find disturbing is the lie of using pictures of bombs used in Afghanistan with pictures of civilians that were hurt in Iraq.

Why the need to lie in that way? How typical is that of the "Arab press" to distort the facts?

That says a lot about our armed forces then, doesn't it?

What in your opinion does it say about our armed forces?

I don't think it matters whether those bombs were dropped in Afghanistan or in Iraq, the controversy is in the blatant biggotry of our troops. If you find that acceptable, that is quite sad. Someone said that those bombs were dropped in Afghanistan during the month of Ramadan. How would you feel if 9/11 happened on Christamas day with "Merry Christmas" spray painted on the sides of the planes?

"I don't think it matters whether those bombs were dropped in Afghanistan or in Iraq"

So lying, distortion of the truth and blantent dishonesty does not bother you. I see.

Your attempt to distort what I said seems to follow that line very well. Yes, some troops wrote un PC messages on bombs. Are you by that trying to say that all US forces believe the same as those few?


Why does a lie have to be shown to make the point? That is a question I would like to be answered.

The point would have been made with just that bomb, you're blowing the "lie" out of proportion. So replace them with images of Afghani civilians killed in our jaunt there, does that make the outcome any different?

 

[konichiwa]

Originally posted by: hankthedwarf
Regardless of what side you stood on before the war, once the first bullet flies its time to back your country and your troops 100%! The little things don't matter at that point, its all about keeping our people safe at any cost. Loss of life on either side is a TERRIBLE tragedy, but better "their" tragedy than ours.

Just my POV.

Wrong. Backing the troops who, for the most part, couldn't care less who they are fighting, is an admirable pursuit, but backing our politicians and policy-makers just because we are at war leads to the blind patriotism, jingoism and nationalistic fervor that we've felt in the US for the past several months and that allows the government to slide other agendas under the umbrella of "patriotism"

 

[etech]

LilBlinbBlahIce

No, it just means that is should not be rubbed in the faces of ALL Muslims. The enemy was Al Qaeda, not Islam. Atleast that's the story Bush keeps repeating. Most Muslims would vehemently argue that the actions of terrorists are un-Islamic. People forget that there are over a billion Muslims on this planet, and to lump them all together with the fanatics you see on TV is as bad as saying that all Christians are Nazi's because the Germans were Nazi's. People don't seem to remember that most of the countries in the ME don't have populations exceeding 26 million, so even if all of them were combined, it would still be less than half of all the Muslims in the world, 7 million of whom happen to be American.

I agree but let's see what is happening and who is doing it. Why they are doing it is interesting also.

When you write a message on a bomb you are pretty much assured that it will not be read by the people it is dropped on. The allegation that it is rubbed in the face of all Muslims is patently false.

Now someone took a picture of it.

What I find interesting is why someone made a webpage out of it and what their motives are.
Could their motives be to promote peace and understanding? No, that doesn't seem to be it. Could their motive be to promote hatred of Americans by juxtaposing a picture of a few troops on a ship writing a message that would not otherwise be read with pictures of civilian casualties from another war. Yes, that seems to me to be a more likely motive or reason for making that webpage.

Where is your condemnation for the people that put that webpage up to promote hatred and animosity? That's right, they aren't Americans so they can promote hatred and it's ok. I'm sorry, I forgot the hate American groundrules.

 

[skyking]

Originally posted by: etech
LilBlinbBlahIce

No, it just means that is should not be rubbed in the faces of ALL Muslims. The enemy was Al Qaeda, not Islam. Atleast that's the story Bush keeps repeating. Most Muslims would vehemently argue that the actions of terrorists are un-Islamic. People forget that there are over a billion Muslims on this planet, and to lump them all together with the fanatics you see on TV is as bad as saying that all Christians are Nazi's because the Germans were Nazi's. People don't seem to remember that most of the countries in the ME don't have populations exceeding 26 million, so even if all of them were combined, it would still be less than half of all the Muslims in the world, 7 million of whom happen to be American.

I agree but let's see what is happening and who is doing it. Why they are doing it is interesting also.

When you write a message on a bomb you are pretty much assured that it will not be read by the people it is dropped on. The allegation that it is rubbed in the face of all Muslims is patently false.

Now someone took a picture of it.

What I find interesting is why someone made a webpage out of it and what their motives are.
Could their motives be to promote peace and understanding? No, that doesn't seem to be it. Could their motive be to promote hatred of Americans by juxtaposing a picture of a few troops on a ship writing a message that would not otherwise be read with pictures of civilian casualties from another war. Yes, that seems to me to be a more likely motive or reason for making that webpage.

Where is your condemnation for the people that put that webpage up to promote hatred and animosity? That's right, they aren't Americans so they can promote hatred and it's ok. I'm sorry, I forgot the hate American groundrules.

Writing tasteless ethnic or religious slurs IN PLAIN SIGHT OF A CAMERA OR REPORTER is the same as proclaiming it any other way. Did the creator of the website hold a gun to the head of the ordanance handlers?
This racist ethnic crap should and can be stopped. Why promote more hatred of Americans, America??
Do you want your little brother, nephew, child to die because we cannot police our own and try not to feed the fires of hatred?

 

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: skyking

Originally posted by: etech
LilBlinbBlahIce

No, it just means that is should not be rubbed in the faces of ALL Muslims. The enemy was Al Qaeda, not Islam. Atleast that's the story Bush keeps repeating. Most Muslims would vehemently argue that the actions of terrorists are un-Islamic. People forget that there are over a billion Muslims on this planet, and to lump them all together with the fanatics you see on TV is as bad as saying that all Christians are Nazi's because the Germans were Nazi's. People don't seem to remember that most of the countries in the ME don't have populations exceeding 26 million, so even if all of them were combined, it would still be less than half of all the Muslims in the world, 7 million of whom happen to be American.

I agree but let's see what is happening and who is doing it. Why they are doing it is interesting also.

When you write a message on a bomb you are pretty much assured that it will not be read by the people it is dropped on. The allegation that it is rubbed in the face of all Muslims is patently false.

Now someone took a picture of it.

What I find interesting is why someone made a webpage out of it and what their motives are.
Could their motives be to promote peace and understanding? No, that doesn't seem to be it. Could their motive be to promote hatred of Americans by juxtaposing a picture of a few troops on a ship writing a message that would not otherwise be read with pictures of civilian casualties from another war. Yes, that seems to me to be a more likely motive or reason for making that webpage.

Where is your condemnation for the people that put that webpage up to promote hatred and animosity? That's right, they aren't Americans so they can promote hatred and it's ok. I'm sorry, I forgot the hate American groundrules.

Writing tasteless ethnic or religious slurs IN PLAIN SIGHT OF A CAMERA OR REPORTER is the same as proclaiming it any other way. Did the creator of the website hold a gun to the head of the ordanance handlers?
This racist ethnic crap should and can be stopped. Why promote more hatred of Americans, America??
Do you want your little brother, nephew, child to die because we cannot police our own and try not to feed the fires of hatred?

Explain to me how what was written on those bombs was an "ethnic or religious slur". You can start by defining slur, then applying how the messages written were religious or ethnic in nature.

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: skyking

Originally posted by: etech
LilBlinbBlahIce

No, it just means that is should not be rubbed in the faces of ALL Muslims. The enemy was Al Qaeda, not Islam. Atleast that's the story Bush keeps repeating. Most Muslims would vehemently argue that the actions of terrorists are un-Islamic. People forget that there are over a billion Muslims on this planet, and to lump them all together with the fanatics you see on TV is as bad as saying that all Christians are Nazi's because the Germans were Nazi's. People don't seem to remember that most of the countries in the ME don't have populations exceeding 26 million, so even if all of them were combined, it would still be less than half of all the Muslims in the world, 7 million of whom happen to be American.

I agree but let's see what is happening and who is doing it. Why they are doing it is interesting also.

When you write a message on a bomb you are pretty much assured that it will not be read by the people it is dropped on. The allegation that it is rubbed in the face of all Muslims is patently false.

Now someone took a picture of it.

What I find interesting is why someone made a webpage out of it and what their motives are.
Could their motives be to promote peace and understanding? No, that doesn't seem to be it. Could their motive be to promote hatred of Americans by juxtaposing a picture of a few troops on a ship writing a message that would not otherwise be read with pictures of civilian casualties from another war. Yes, that seems to me to be a more likely motive or reason for making that webpage.

Where is your condemnation for the people that put that webpage up to promote hatred and animosity? That's right, they aren't Americans so they can promote hatred and it's ok. I'm sorry, I forgot the hate American groundrules.

Writing tasteless ethnic or religious slurs IN PLAIN SIGHT OF A CAMERA OR REPORTER is the same as proclaiming it any other way. Did the creator of the website hold a gun to the head of the ordanance handlers?
This racist ethnic crap should and can be stopped. Why promote more hatred of Americans, America??
Do you want your little brother, nephew, child to die because we cannot police our own and try not to feed the fires of hatred?

Look this is pointless. i have provided clear arguments on why I think this is wrong, If' y'all want to continue making excuses for the people who made those statements or try to justify and explain their motives and somehow "make it all ok" go right ahead. I guess our values just differ even though I don't see what's the point of defending the indefensible.

 

[konichiwa]

Originally posted by: etech
LilBlinbBlahIce

No, it just means that is should not be rubbed in the faces of ALL Muslims. The enemy was Al Qaeda, not Islam. Atleast that's the story Bush keeps repeating. Most Muslims would vehemently argue that the actions of terrorists are un-Islamic. People forget that there are over a billion Muslims on this planet, and to lump them all together with the fanatics you see on TV is as bad as saying that all Christians are Nazi's because the Germans were Nazi's. People don't seem to remember that most of the countries in the ME don't have populations exceeding 26 million, so even if all of them were combined, it would still be less than half of all the Muslims in the world, 7 million of whom happen to be American.

I agree but let's see what is happening and who is doing it. Why they are doing it is interesting also.

When you write a message on a bomb you are pretty much assured that it will not be read by the people it is dropped on. The allegation that it is rubbed in the face of all Muslims is patently false.

Now someone took a picture of it.

What I find interesting is why someone made a webpage out of it and what their motives are.
Could their motives be to promote peace and understanding? No, that doesn't seem to be it. Could their motive be to promote hatred of Americans by juxtaposing a picture of a few troops on a ship writing a message that would not otherwise be read with pictures of civilian casualties from another war. Yes, that seems to me to be a more likely motive or reason for making that webpage.

Where is your condemnation for the people that put that webpage up to promote hatred and animosity? That's right, they aren't Americans so they can promote hatred and it's ok. I'm sorry, I forgot the hate American groundrules.

The messenger isn't to blame here; it was written on a bomb by a soldier. You've completely spun the situation to leaven any blame from the soldier and put it all onto the photographer (or website-maker, or whatever) for simply displaying a picture. The juxtaposition is a fair one, and until you provide some proof as to why it's not (other than that it came from two different wars, which, in my opinion, is inconsequential) it provides some insight into the mind of an American soldier. The picture by itself would have done that, and you are only removing importance from it by calling attention to the rather unimportant fact that there are civilian casualty pictures from another conflict on the same page.

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: konichiwa

Originally posted by: etech
LilBlinbBlahIce

No, it just means that is should not be rubbed in the faces of ALL Muslims. The enemy was Al Qaeda, not Islam. Atleast that's the story Bush keeps repeating. Most Muslims would vehemently argue that the actions of terrorists are un-Islamic. People forget that there are over a billion Muslims on this planet, and to lump them all together with the fanatics you see on TV is as bad as saying that all Christians are Nazi's because the Germans were Nazi's. People don't seem to remember that most of the countries in the ME don't have populations exceeding 26 million, so even if all of them were combined, it would still be less than half of all the Muslims in the world, 7 million of whom happen to be American.

I agree but let's see what is happening and who is doing it. Why they are doing it is interesting also.

When you write a message on a bomb you are pretty much assured that it will not be read by the people it is dropped on. The allegation that it is rubbed in the face of all Muslims is patently false.

Now someone took a picture of it.

What I find interesting is why someone made a webpage out of it and what their motives are.
Could their motives be to promote peace and understanding? No, that doesn't seem to be it. Could their motive be to promote hatred of Americans by juxtaposing a picture of a few troops on a ship writing a message that would not otherwise be read with pictures of civilian casualties from another war. Yes, that seems to me to be a more likely motive or reason for making that webpage.

Where is your condemnation for the people that put that webpage up to promote hatred and animosity? That's right, they aren't Americans so they can promote hatred and it's ok. I'm sorry, I forgot the hate American groundrules.

The messenger isn't to blame here; it was written on a bomb by a soldier. You've completely spun the situation to leaven any blame from the soldier and put it all onto the photographer (or website-maker, or whatever) for simply displaying a picture. The juxtaposition is a fair one, and until you provide some proof as to why it's not (other than that it came from two different wars, which, in my opinion, is inconsequential) it provides some insight into the mind of an American soldier. The picture by itself would have done that, and you are only removing importance from it by calling attention to the rather unimportant fact that there are civilian casualty pictures from another conflict on the same page.

If the page was only about the message on the bomb than that is all that needed to be put on the page. The deliberate and misleading pictures of injured from another war is a blatent attempt to stir up hate against Americans. I won't say that you are lying but I don't know why you would try to spin it any other way. Either the other pictures were part of the message or they would have been left off of the page. Bury your head if you wish, the message seems to be quite obvious.

Now explain to me exactly how the message that was written on the bomb is so hate-mongering that it causes such ire. Please, for once, try to be specific.


LilBlinbBlahIce
Do you find spreading hate by the content of that webpage is right? Do you think that two wrongs make a right? Explain how that web-page showing pictures of what happened last year with recent images of wounded is helping the situation.

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: konichiwa

Originally posted by: etech
LilBlinbBlahIce

No, it just means that is should not be rubbed in the faces of ALL Muslims. The enemy was Al Qaeda, not Islam. Atleast that's the story Bush keeps repeating. Most Muslims would vehemently argue that the actions of terrorists are un-Islamic. People forget that there are over a billion Muslims on this planet, and to lump them all together with the fanatics you see on TV is as bad as saying that all Christians are Nazi's because the Germans were Nazi's. People don't seem to remember that most of the countries in the ME don't have populations exceeding 26 million, so even if all of them were combined, it would still be less than half of all the Muslims in the world, 7 million of whom happen to be American.

I agree but let's see what is happening and who is doing it. Why they are doing it is interesting also.

When you write a message on a bomb you are pretty much assured that it will not be read by the people it is dropped on. The allegation that it is rubbed in the face of all Muslims is patently false.

Now someone took a picture of it.

What I find interesting is why someone made a webpage out of it and what their motives are.
Could their motives be to promote peace and understanding? No, that doesn't seem to be it. Could their motive be to promote hatred of Americans by juxtaposing a picture of a few troops on a ship writing a message that would not otherwise be read with pictures of civilian casualties from another war. Yes, that seems to me to be a more likely motive or reason for making that webpage.

Where is your condemnation for the people that put that webpage up to promote hatred and animosity? That's right, they aren't Americans so they can promote hatred and it's ok. I'm sorry, I forgot the hate American groundrules.

The messenger isn't to blame here; it was written on a bomb by a soldier. You've completely spun the situation to leaven any blame from the soldier and put it all onto the photographer (or website-maker, or whatever) for simply displaying a picture. The juxtaposition is a fair one, and until you provide some proof as to why it's not (other than that it came from two different wars, which, in my opinion, is inconsequential) it provides some insight into the mind of an American soldier. The picture by itself would have done that, and you are only removing importance from it by calling attention to the rather unimportant fact that there are civilian casualty pictures from another conflict on the same page.

If the page was only about the message on the bomb than that is all that needed to be put on the page. The deliberate and misleading pictures of injured from another war is a blatent attempt to stir up hate against Americans. I won't say that you are lying but I don't know why you would try to spin it any other way. Either the other pictures were part of the message or they would have been left off of the page. Bury your head if you wish, the message seems to be quite obvious.

Now explain to me exactly how the message that was written on the bomb is so hate-mongering that it causes such ire. Please, for once, try to be specific.


LilBlinbBlahIce
Do you find spreading hate by the content of that webpage is right? Do you think that two wrongs make a right? Explain how that web-page showing pictures of what happened last year with recent images of wounded is helping the situation.

I think when the messages were written is irrelevant. Those bombs were dropped on Muslims. Whether it was during Iraq or Afghanistan, it doesn't change that fact. I cannot understand how you people can try to spin this as to not blame the sodiers who wrote it. You'll blame everyone, the photographer, the guy who set up the website, anyone except the people who wrote it. It's like a convicted rapist blaming society, or the girl he raped for being dressed too sexy and "asking for it". Come on now. As for you asking why the message would cause so much ire, I have given you reasons. If you cannot see why it could be (and obviously is) hurtful to Muslims, there is nothing anyone can say that will convince you otherwise.

 

[skyking]

Explain to me how what was written on those bombs was an "ethnic or religious slur". You can start by defining slur, then applying how the messages written were religious or ethnic in nature.

Ramadan.
It is the same as someone using Good Friday, Christmas or Hanukkahon a weapon of destruction, targeted for people who worship or celebrate those events. It is sick humor, and counter to the beliefs of many Americans. It is a needless taunting.
The web page would not exist in that form without that wonderful photo opportunity.
I hear complaints of the lies perpetrated by the media, but the truth is plenty ugly. It is sufficient to fuel the hatred indefinitely.

 

[etech]

LilBlinbBlahIce

I think when the messages were written is irrelevant. Those bombs were dropped on Muslims. Whether it was during Iraq or Afghanistan, it doesn't change that fact. I cannot understand how you people can try to spin this as to not blame the sodiers who wrote it. You'll blame everyone, the photographer, the guy who set up the website, anyone except the people who wrote it. It's like a convicted rapist blaming society, or the girl he raped for being dressed too sexy and "asking for it". Come on now. As for you asking why the message would cause so much ire, I have given you reasons. If you cannot see why it could be (and obviously is) hurtful to Muslims, there is nothing anyone can say that will convince you otherwise.

What is the purpose of that web page? Why do you think it was designed with all of the pictures it has on it?

 

[jjones]

Originally posted by: dahunan
I am curious to know if you think Muslim soldiers would or would not write anything on their munitions if they were bombing America or Europe?

What country has the most polite soldiers?

Yeah, I wonder what the Arabs were writing on their munitions when they attacked Israel on Yom Kippur, one of the most important of Jewish holidays?

The author of that site achieved the exact response he was looking for from some people by trying to portray US soldiers as bloodthirsty, inhuman, and relishing the idea of wreaking havoc and destruction upon civilian children. For all anyone knows, those photos may be of children maimed by Saddam and his military.

In any case, who cares what is written on a bomb other than some overly PC anal retentive? In the large photograph of war, writing messages of bravado on a bomb is an insignificant pixel.

 

[UltraQuiet]

In any case, who cares what is written on a bomb other than some overly PC anal retentive?

Exactly. No one else that's who.

Best one ever - - I have a picture somewhere of a bomb that was dropped on Libya back in 86(?) It said "This ones for Muammar's Mom". Fscking hilarious. I'll have to find the picture, scan it and post it. Should have a lot of panties in a bunch around here.

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: skyking

Explain to me how what was written on those bombs was an "ethnic or religious slur". You can start by defining slur, then applying how the messages written were religious or ethnic in nature.

Ramadan.
It is the same as someone using Good Friday, Christmas or Hanukkahon a weapon of destruction, targeted for people who worship or celebrate those events. It is sick humor, and counter to the beliefs of many Americans. It is a needless taunting.
The web page would not exist in that form without that wonderful photo opportunity.
I hear complaints of the lies perpetrated by the media, but the truth is plenty ugly. It is sufficient to fuel the hatred indefinitely.

Exactly, but these guys are just not going to get it so we're waisting our time.

 

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: skyking

Explain to me how what was written on those bombs was an "ethnic or religious slur". You can start by defining slur, then applying how the messages written were religious or ethnic in nature.

Ramadan.
It is the same as someone using Good Friday, Christmas or Hanukkahon a weapon of destruction, targeted for people who worship or celebrate those events. It is sick humor, and counter to the beliefs of many Americans. It is a needless taunting.
The web page would not exist in that form without that wonderful photo opportunity.
I hear complaints of the lies perpetrated by the media, but the truth is plenty ugly. It is sufficient to fuel the hatred indefinitely.

Good boy you defined a religious Holiday I was already quite aware of and completely avoided answering my question. Take a step back and actually answer the question I posed now.

 

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Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: dahunan
Those bomb pictures are not even related to this war.... They are from Afghanistan when we bombed the slimebag Talibanners during Rhamadan

So that makes it ok?

I wonder how many bombs dropped on Germany during world war 2 said "Merry Christmas Hitler" or something to that effect.