here we go! Wisconsin recount is happening

[glenn1]

Breaking news on CNN:

Trump officially won Michigan 16 EC votes

Now 306 vs 232

Well, I'm rather hoping this news spurs the use of the Jill Stein money from a recount to something more fruitful like comprehensive voting reform. Non-strict Voter ID, improved checks on absentee voting, increased standardization of voter registration deadlines, deploying more voting machines and personnel in high demand locations, developing some means of catching those voting in multiple jurisdictions, et cetera. There is no reason most of these problems cannot or should not be resolved.

 

[buckshot24]

Breaking news on CNN:

Trump officially won Michigan 16 EC votes

Now 306 vs 232

"Dear xxxxx,

Thank you for your recent correspondence. Governor Snyder appreciates your time in writing and has asked that I respond directly on his behalf.

The Michigan Board of State Canvassers will meet today to canvass and certify the statewide results for president. At that point, the results will be final and official. There is no indication of any problems with the votes as cast in Michigan and the Governor feels it would be best to move past the politics and get focused on the important job of governing, but there is a process to be followed if someone wishes to initiate a recount and that process is now running its course.

At this point there has not been any contact from Mrs. Jill Stein's campaign to the State of Michigan Bureau of Elections (BOE). If the Board of State Canvassers certifies the election today she would have 48 hours to request a recount if she wishes. The recount petition goes to the Secretary ofState (BOE). President Elect- Trump has the opportunity to challenge recount to the state board within one week of a recount request. Mrs. Stein can request a recount in certain precincts, not necessarily the whole state. If only some precincts are requested, President-Elect Trump can include more.

The cost of a statewide recount is at least $790,000 for 6,310 precincts and AV counting boards. Board policy is that the recount will be done by hand. Board of Elections staff would work with the staff of the county clerks to perform this. There is no evidence or credible allegation of hacking, tampering or fraud with this election. All cities and townships use a paper ballot that is fed into a counting machine, which is not connected to the Internet and is extensively tested prior to each election.

Again, thank you for your correspondence and your interest in this topic. Should you have further questions or comments regarding this or any other state-related matter, please do not hesitate to contact Governor Snyder’s office again.


Sincerely,


Christine Nelson
Constituent Relations"

 

[buckshot24]

"Dear xxxxx,

Thank you for your recent correspondence. Governor Snyder appreciates your time in writing and has asked that I respond directly on his behalf.

The Michigan Board of State Canvassers will meet today to canvass and certify the statewide results for president. At that point, the results will be final and official. There is no indication of any problems with the votes as cast in Michigan and the Governor feels it would be best to move past the politics and get focused on the important job of governing, but there is a process to be followed if someone wishes to initiate a recount and that process is now running its course.

At this point there has not been any contact from Mrs. Jill Stein's campaign to the State of Michigan Bureau of Elections (BOE). If the Board of State Canvassers certifies the election today she would have 48 hours to request a recount if she wishes. The recount petition goes to the Secretary ofState (BOE). President Elect- Trump has the opportunity to challenge recount to the state board within one week of a recount request. Mrs. Stein can request a recount in certain precincts, not necessarily the whole state. If only some precincts are requested, President-Elect Trump can include more.

The cost of a statewide recount is at least $790,000 for 6,310 precincts and AV counting boards. Board policy is that the recount will be done by hand. Board of Elections staff would work with the staff of the county clerks to perform this. There is no evidence or credible allegation of hacking, tampering or fraud with this election. All cities and townships use a paper ballot that is fed into a counting machine, which is not connected to the Internet and is extensively tested prior to each election.

Again, thank you for your correspondence and your interest in this topic. Should you have further questions or comments regarding this or any other state-related matter, please do not hesitate to contact Governor Snyder’s office again.


Sincerely,


Christine Nelson
Constituent Relations"

Liberals be like.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

So what from my posting history also demonstrated my authoritarian nature as you infer it?

I'd like to know.

I'm not taking the time, go ahead and check your own history and get back to me.

 

[werepossum]

And how have we come out on the losing end?

Look at our trade deficit. At the end of the day, it's very difficult to compete with really cheap labor. Used to be more practical, but as automation continues it becomes much more economically feasible to teach that $2/day laborer to run the shoe making machine than it was to teach him to be a cobbler.

 

[Brainonska511]

Look at our trade deficit. At the end of the day, it's very difficult to compete with really cheap labor. Used to be more practical, but as automation continues it becomes much more economically feasible to teach that $2/day laborer to run the shoe making machine than it was to teach him to be a cobbler.

Trade deficits aren't inherently good or bad.

 

[Thump553]

There is no way they can make me vote. I will leave this country before doing something so repugnant.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Lots of countries have mandatory voting-Australia is one that comes to mind immediately. Remember that you can vote third party, or even write in a fictitious name if you are hell-bent on having NO role in the direction of your country.

 

[jackstar7]

I'm not taking the time, go ahead and check your own history and get back to me.

I know who I am.

You claim to know who I am.

I disagree with your assessment of me and would like to know how you arrived at your flawed perception. I'll just assume that it matches your flawed worldview in that you embrace ignorance and fear and loathe complexity and nuance.

Carry on.

 

[brycejones]

I'm not taking the time, go ahead and check your own history and get back to me.

So you admit you've got nothing and are conceding the argument or are you going to be like buckshat and keep on like you've supported your statements when you've done nothing of the sort?

 

[buckshot24]

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/p...stein-missed-recount-deadline/article/2608305

Well...

Can we put all this nonsense behind us now?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Ohhhhh snap!!!!

 

[Victorian Gray]

Lol, The New Snopes. He pulls it out his ass when he's losing.

You are always welcome to prove them wrong.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Snopes isn't "facts". They are an opinion source who isn't exactly unbiased.

You're always welcome to prove them wrong.

 

[brycejones]

You are always welcome to prove them wrong.

Infowars and that guy on facebook say something different because reasons so it must be true. #truthiness

 

[buckshot24]

You're always welcome to prove them wrong.

Alex Jones and Rush Limbaugh told me so there.

 

[buckshot24]

Infowars and that guy on facebook say something different because reasons so it must be true. #truthiness

Exactly!

 

[pcgeek11]

Clinton's remarks were made partly in the belief that she had the election sewn up, but there are different circumstances.

Trump made his statements because he assumed almost from the get-go that the elections would be rigged against him, and effectively declared that any outcome where he didn't win was proof of rigging. It came from one of Trump's central character flaws: his sense of entitlement, that he's owed everything he wants.

The Clinton camp is certainly a bit hypocritical, but its jumping on the recount bandwagon is different than what Trump was saying. It's not just that Trump won -- it's that he won by such a small margin that, combined with suspicions of Russian interference and other tampering, there's a genuine concern that something could be amiss. Think of it as the differences between students questioning marks on their term papers. It's one thing if you question your grade because you see a mark that doesn't seem right, but it's another if you question it simply because you believe you were predestined to get an A.

10,000 votes isn't that small actually that is just the one state, the other two states were significantly larger margins.

I order for Russia to have rigged the electronic voting they would have had to have access to a significant number of the machines themselves.

 

[pcgeek11]

they said they are jumping on to ensure they have representation during the recount. Nothing wrong with that. They also said they had statistical scientists look everything over before and they didn't see any irregularities. So who cares. Trump whining about this is fucking hilarious though. Its going to be a long, stupid 4 years.

Big difference between whinning and pointing out Hillarys hypocrisy.

 

[fskimospy]

Big difference between whinning and pointing out Hillarys hypocrisy.

Are you actually saying that participating in a recount is not accepting the results of an election? Recounts serve to ensure that the results are correct.

Not accepting the results of an election is saying that after all the votes are counted and the election certified that you lost due to some other reason like say, claiming that millions of people voted fraudulently.

 

[buckshot24]

Are you actually saying that participating in a recount is not accepting the results of an election? Recounts serve to ensure that the results are correct.

Not accepting the results of an election is saying that after all the votes are counted and the election certified that you lost due to some other reason like say, claiming that millions of people voted fraudulently.

There is zero chance anything gets overturned and Trump won so the "millions of illegal voters" didn't cost him anything.

Stein also missed deadline in Pennsylvania. It's over.

 

[pcgeek11]

Are you actually saying that participating in a recount is not accepting the results of an election? Recounts serve to ensure that the results are correct.

Not accepting the results of an election is saying that after all the votes are counted and the election certified that you lost due to some other reason like say, claiming that millions of people voted fraudulently.

That is not what Trump said.

Hillary conceded the election and now she is being a hypocrite in respect to what she stated about Trump. Pretty simple.

They have a right to contest and have a recount as long as they pay for it I don't care. It's not like anything will become of it. There just doesn't seem to be a point as there is no evidence to support it.

 

[baydude]

Recount goal: challenge the legitimacy of Trump presidency with recount
Recount outcome: Trump presidency just got 10 times stronger

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

what's hilarious about this is how if the situation were reversed, drumpf would be blowing his stack trying to get this recount done, along with most of the drumpftards here. Bellowing how the election was rigged and stolen, etc. etc. But since it's the reverse... well nothing to see here, move along, move along.

 

[pcgeek11]

what's hilarious about this is how if the situation were reversed, drumpf would be blowing his stack trying to get this recount done, along with most of the drumpftards here. Bellowing how the election was rigged and stolen, etc. etc. But since it's the reverse... well nothing to see here, move along, move along.

In an exact reversal of roles I would have the exact same opinion.

 

[dainthomas]

In an exact reversal of roles I would have the exact same opinion.

Perhaps. But you have to admit that a significant number on here would wholeheartedly support it (the ones that weren't calling for armed revolution).