Here Is What Louisiana Schoolchildren Learn About Evolution

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  1. Retro Rob

    Retro Rob Diamond Member

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    Please. Taxt has proven himself, in this thread anyway, to be an obnoxious, pompous jackass..

    People who think they're right all the time CAN'T be debated with.

    Stop feeding the troll, ignore him....
     
  2. Cerpin Taxt

    Cerpin Taxt Lifer

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    One is entitled to the luxury of gloating when the facts so clearly and resoundingly endorse his arguments.

    I'm not right all the time. Just most of the time, and this thread happens to be one of those times.

    I don't think you know what trolling is.
     
  3. Paul98

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    Your "argument" is invalid, not only are the changes in DNA strands finite which makes your argument invalid. But also we know that small changes in DNA can make big differences.

    Really that argument makes no sense at all when looking at evolution, but I thought that I would add a couple comments to hopefully make it obvious.
     
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  4. Darwin333

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  6. Darwin333

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    No no no!! He had a very real purpose. God is trying to trick people into believing in evolution so he can send them to hell for it.
     
  7. buckshot24

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    What we see in most of these cases is like there being something that causes people to die if they understand differential equations. Only those who do not understand the math would be left. The population would be worse off when the temporary pressure is removed as we couldn't build bridges efficiently anymore.
    I'd call it interesting.
     
  8. buckshot24

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    The calculus example wasn't an argument, it was merely to express the concept that changes don't always add up to something.
     
  9. Paul98

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    And I was showing you how it was nonsense when talking about evolution.
     
  10. buckshot24

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    Not really but whatever.
     
  11. randomrogue

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    Evolution and divergent integrals? Really?
     
  12. Paul98

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    How would evolution in anyway be able to be compared to that?
     
  13. Cerpin Taxt

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    Clearly buckshot is preparing a new evolutionary model where every organisms phenotype and genotype can each be expressed in a single, finite number.

    That's not a fruit fly, it's a 5666643254389849663135.67884357895.
     
  14. randomrogue

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    Technically you could express it as a binary number :p
     
  15. Cerpin Taxt

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    Well, apparently all mathematical functions can be rigorously mapped to biological processes, so translating a species ID into binary would naturally represent a new type of evolution.

    I'm certain this revolutionary new model will earn buckshot a Nobel prize. Somebody notify the guys in Stockholm.
     
  16. buckshot24

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    haha, I didn't map anything to any function so I'll have to refuse the invitation.

    The fact that nobody complained when the 1+1+1+1.... was presented is funny but a more complex mathematical concept is introduced then its a problem.
     
  17. Cerpin Taxt

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    That wasn't really the same thing. Jeff7 was addressing the common silly creationist suggestion that it is reasonable to accept the reality of "microevolution," but then dispute the validity of "macroevolution." To do so would be akin to stipulating the validity of the additive function but arbitrarily objecting to sums over some undefined limit.
     
  18. buckshot24

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    There is no difference except who made the point.
     
  19. Cerpin Taxt

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    Patently false. You made the claim that an infinite number of biological changes might still be limited by... something... and likened it to a convergent geometric series. That's quite a different point than the one made by Jeff7, and quite aside from the fact that biological changes are discrete (like the numbers in Jeff7's analogy) while you suggested they could form a continuum.

    The two points could hardly be more different.
     
  20. Paul98

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    You implied that small changes can not turn into a big change.

    so he took the analogy and used numbers 1+1 = 2 which is a small change. 1+1+1 = 3 another small change, 1+1+1... +1 = 100,000 big change. Which shows that small changes can eventually lead to big changes.


    Your analogy makes no sense, I think you wanted to talk about an infinite sum which doesn't equal infinity. Is that correct? If so I can explain why that analogy doesn't work here.
     
  21. First

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    Jeez, buckshot going hard to the hole with the fail today.
     
  22. Cerpin Taxt

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    It's a way of life for conservatives.
     
  23. First

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    Not surprising specifically with buckshot, though. In another thread he continues to deny/ignore the reality of confidence intervals in statistics, claiming the last few months of state polling in the election was all wrong in one direction despite rich and massive samples from countless public polling firms.

    The fact that he's going after practically an immutable law in evolution is, well, sadly predictable and emblematic of the education problem we have in this country.
     
  24. buckshot24

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    The polls were wrong just only in the direction towards Obama.
     
  25. Todd33

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    Dude, just stop. You are not treading on new ground, your non-sense has been dead and buried for decades. Go read a book.


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