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Hennessey Venom GT

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Houston Coffee and Cars will be showing off a Venom GT at the Dec 3rd event (the location is going to be announced soon). So if you're in/near Houston, come take a look, I know I will. They brought a bright orange Gumpert in October, that thing was awesome.
 
A Lotus Elise and a ZR1 engine don't even cost $100k. Where the fvck is the other $500,000? The "Hennessey" sticker?

I wish I had the money to drop twin turbo ZR1 engines into Ariel Atoms and sell them for $250,000 just to 1-up Hennessey and watch him throw a fit.

All he does is rip off rich people who know nothing about cars to install parts. Hennessey's name is the biggest joke to real car enthusiasts, and that he's always trying to compensate for something proves that even HE knows it.

I was just discussing this with some friends. Went to the big Good Guys show/swap meet in Phoenix this past weekend, and we were looking at and appreciating the rat rods and budget DIY jobs, and the old ratty daily driven Mopars with the faded and cracked original factory paint job, more than anything else. Nobody really cared much for the Barret Jackson type guys who just wrote a blank check for the car, someone to restore it for them, and everything in the Foose/Shelby/whatever catalog, and have never even seen or touched the car until it was trailered to the show. I like seeing unique things people do in their garages, not 600 dozen identical $150,000+ cars with the same list of trendy name brand billet parts.

I miss when car shows were about the cars, ongoing projects that never ended, scouring junk yards for years, guys that drove the car as they worked on it on their spare time. Today's car shows are more about the owners showing off their bank accounts than the cars, at least at these huge megacorp events. I try to stick to the smaller local meets at the Taco Bell or <insert place> parking lot for the real deal.

I love nothing more than pouring over some kid's turbo Civic that he did himself, then walking right past some dude puffing on a cigar next to his numbers matching perfect whatever without even a glance. Ugh that reminds me, these guys never even do any unique or crazy engine builds, they are all always running the same exact farking stock 350-400 HP crate motor in their $100,000 restorations... the LEAST you can do is pull the same damn motor from a junkyard and get it running yourself for SOME kind of credit... I can't count how many cars that falsely excited me with intake tubing that I ran up to looking for the custom EFI retrofit or turbo job only to find yet another crate motor trying to distinguish itself with a "custom intake pipe"...

/rant
 
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A Lotus Elise and a ZR1 engine don't even cost $100k. Where the fvck is the other $500,000? The "Hennessey" sticker?

I wish I had the money to drop twin turbo ZR1 engines into Ariel Atoms and sell them for $250,000 just to 1-up Hennessey and watch him throw a fit.

All he does is rip off rich people who know nothing about cars to install parts. Hennessey's name is the biggest joke to real car enthusiasts, and that he's always trying to compensate for something proves that even HE knows it.

I was just discussing this with some friends. Went to the big Good Guys show/swap meet in Phoenix this past weekend, and we were looking at and appreciating the rat rods and budget DIY jobs, and the old ratty daily driven Mopars with the faded and cracked original factory paint job, more than anything else. Nobody really cared much for the Barret Jackson type guys who just wrote a blank check for the car, someone to restore it for them, and everything in the Foose/Shelby/whatever catalog, and have never even seen or touched the car until it was trailered to the show. I like seeing unique things people do in their garages, not 600 dozen identical $150,000+ cars with the same list of trendy name brand billet parts.

I miss when car shows were about the cars, ongoing projects that never ended, scouring junk yards for years, guys that drove the car as they worked on it on their spare time. Today's car shows are more about the owners showing off their bank accounts than the cars, at least at these huge megacorp events. I try to stick to the smaller local meets at the Taco Bell or <insert place> parking lot for the real deal.

I love nothing more than pouring over some kid's turbo Civic that he did himself, then walking right past some dude puffing on a cigar next to his numbers matching perfect whatever without even a glance.

I agree with you completely, I'm just going to see it. If I had that sort of money, no way I'm buying that shit. There is actually a whole section of guys that come with their custom machines. This guy dropped a v8 into a lawn mower.
 
I miss when car shows were about the cars, ongoing projects that never ended, scouring junk yards for years, guys that drove the car as they worked on it on their spare time. Today's car shows are more about the owners showing off their bank accounts than the cars, at least at these huge megacorp events. I try to stick to the smaller local meets at the Taco Bell or <insert place> parking lot for the real deal.

I love nothing more than pouring over some kid's turbo Civic that he did himself, then walking right past some dude puffing on a cigar next to his numbers matching perfect whatever without even a glance. Ugh that reminds me, these guys never even do any unique or crazy engine builds, they are all always running the same exact farking stock 350-400 HP crate motor in their $100,000 restorations... the LEAST you can do is pull the same damn motor from a junkyard and get it running yourself for SOME kind of credit... I can't count how many cars that falsely excited me with intake tubing that I ran up to looking for the custom EFI retrofit or turbo job only to find yet another crate motor trying to distinguish itself with a "custom intake pipe"...

/rant

This. The last few car shows I've been to have been primarily classics, and occasionally I'll talk to an owner about their car - most of the time I just walk by, too many of them get all full of themselves when they see a young guy like me walking up. Normally they go on and on about their numbers-matching restoration with just different fluids and tires, blah blah blah. When I mention that I have a classic myself, they ask what I plan on doing with it, and the second I say restomod (fairly wild motor, 3-point seatbelts, aftermarket stereo and speakers - not that I'll be able to hear it with the engine running - ditching the C4 auto for a toploader, etc.), they shake their head. Others shake their head because I'm putting "all this time and effort" into a measly '66 Mustang Coupe, when I could get a decent '67 Fastback for "just" $10k or so. I guess they'd never understand if I explained that other than the $2,800 original purchase price, and about $2k in parts, I don't owe this car a thing yet. I'll probably be less than $7,500 in the hole by the time the project is done, and that's mostly by doing the work ourselves and scavenging parts from people that just want them gone.

Unless you have a truly rare and collectible car (COPO Camaro, for example), who gives a crap if it's all original? Vehicles are supposed to be fun, not pristine. The day I take my Mustang to a car show on a trailer rather than driving it is the day I'll look at myself in the mirror and give up on cars altogether.
 
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If I roll into an open informal gathering of just random cars in a parking lot and there are some decent old school rods there that people worked on, I'll park the Cobra off on the side in the normal car spaces and not even pop the hood.

The difference is I *know* I just bought a built production car and bolted go fast goodies onto it and I don't pretend any different. I can't stand people who show up to those kinds of gatherings in a brand new completely stock Corvette or Mustang with 20 miles on it and pop the hood like they belong there... unless of course it's a younger generation and those are the kinds of cars that are there.

I do like a wide variety of cars, new and old, but there is a time and place for all kinds of cars. An old school gathering of 30s, 50s, 60s, 70s cars that people have bled on and eaten their skin off with paint stripper, is absolutely not the place for some douche bag to roll up in a brand new stock 2010 Corvette/Mustang/Camaro with temp tags and a K&N trying to fit in, 'cause there is always that one guy.
 
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A Lotus Elise and a ZR1 engine don't even cost $100k. Where the fvck is the other $500,000? The "Hennessey" sticker?
I agree with your overall rant and generally despise Hennessey (I'm sure you've heard of how many people he ended up ripping off years back).

However, what I've read suggests that the chassis was heavily customized for this setup. A 200HP Lotus chassis isn't exactly a bolt-on affair for an LS9-powered supercar. This seems to be one of the only cars he's done that has necessitated truly impressive custom work.

Putting an LS9 in a Camaro? Swapping it to a solid rear axle and stuffing in steamrollers out back? Sorry, not impressive and nowhere near worth the cost. If you can't do it yourself, find a reputable custom shop for 1/8th the price of Hennessey.
 
That $ will buy two Ferrari F458s, and probably a few economy cars to spare. Economy cars like say Mustang GTs 😀

Le sigh.
 
I'm not impressed by Henessy's professionality, especially in dealing with forumites, none of it makes much sense to be quite frank.

I do know a guy in San Diego who was delivered a Hennessy turbocharged Viper (forgot what it's officially called) and the guy took down a lambo Murc that was modded to produce 880 HP, driven by another guy I know.

So Hennessy did deliver the goods to a guy out of Texas' state. Now how long that took, I don't know.

Probably sent him some other guy's car.
 
A bit pigish IMHO at 2400lbs. My 240SX may not turn as many heads, but tips the scales at 2750lbs...

Well, the M3 GTR is almost 2600lbs, the C6R is a bit over 2400, the weight seems in line for a vehicle with a monstrous motor and the requisite chassis reinforcement / etc.

Although I think it's something of a monstrosity and I'm not a fan of Hennesey overall, weight seems normal.
 
A bit pigish IMHO at 2400lbs. My 240SX may not turn as many heads, but tips the scales at 2750lbs...
Oh jesus christ, get off the effing 240SX that you will some day maybe drop in a bastard motor just like every other person with a slow ass import.

Sadly I can't find the "LS1. Like a retard on viagra, they will stick it into anything" image.
 
Oh jesus christ, get off the effing 240SX that you will some day maybe drop in a bastard motor just like every other person with a slow ass import.

Sadly I can't find the "LS1. Like a retard on viagra, they will stick it into anything" image.

ROFL :awe:

It's the age-old 'big power in tiny car' formula. IMHO there are much better ways to get there than the Venom.
 
Oh jesus christ, get off the effing 240SX that you will some day maybe drop in a bastard motor just like every other person with a slow ass import.

Sadly I can't find the "LS1. Like a retard on viagra, they will stick it into anything" image.

lol, first you have the mullet-tastic handle of fIREbIrdphreak...

I bet you spouted all the virtues of the LSx motor before you were forced to sell your GTO for a fucking Legacy...

Got some birkenstocks to go with that ride...straight ballah you are. Y0 dawg, i can turn a 5 second 0-60 though y0!

BTW, I have done all the other stuff I planned for my 'slow ass import'...not like I sitting around all broke ass like yourself.
 
lol, first you have the mullet-tastic handle of fIREbIrdphreak...

I bet you spouted all the virtues of the LSx motor before you were forced to sell your GTO for a fucking Legacy...

Got some birkenstocks to go with that ride...straight ballah you are. Y0 dawg, i can turn a 5 second 0-60 though y0!

BTW, I have done all the other stuff I planned for my 'slow ass import'...not like I sitting around all broke ass like yourself.
HAH! The LSx is a great motor. I love it and I think it is better than sooooo many other designs on the market (especially Subaru's 2.5L H4). The LS2 was great in my GTO; which, btw, I did own and not "planned" to own. Nor did I sell it for a Legacy, which btw is still faster than your 240SX.

But when Mr. "Hey in case I didn't tell you fifteen hundred times before about my car that I keep saying I'm going to modify and it is better than everything else" comes in and says something about how this 2400 lbs. 100% custom supercar is "heavy" compared to his 12 year old wannabe sporty car, yeah I'm going to put you in your place.

Oh, and mega-ROFL at your last comments. 😱😀:thumbsup:
 
wannabe sporty car?

I think the 240SX lineup has proven it's place among the best of handling cars.

Don't be mad at me you have to finance your rides.
 
wannabe sporty car?

I think the 240SX lineup has proven it's place among the best of handling cars.

Don't be mad at me you have to finance your rides.
LOL. Maybe if we all bought cars that are only worth $5K at best, we'd never have to finance cars. Bwahahahaha
 
LOL. Maybe if we all bought cars that are only worth $5K at best, we'd never have to finance cars. Bwahahahaha

ummm you may want to check the market on a 1998 SE in 2004 when I bought it. Even now you'd be very lucky to find one anywhere near the condition of mine for $5k.

Anyway, I am not the one that has to keep selling off my cars, nor do I throw ebay mods on them. Seriously angel eyes on a legacy???? WTF Do you dream you are behind the wheel of a M3 in traffic?

The reason I went out and picked my car was the balance, weight and rarity. There are less than 5000 total units of the 97/98 models...I never see even a different color out there save once or twice a year.

Later this next year I will determine if I keep it or move on. I could just as easily go to a Z06 or M3, I have even debated picking up a Honda Element SC.

Sorry I bring up the car I am driving when discussing other ones. It's really my own benchmark that I compare to. I have had cars that cost 5x what this one did and still find myself favoring it, however; I have to really figure out if putting another $8-10k into this car is going to be the right move for me.

It's apparent that somehow bothers you.
 
So rarity and not seeing another car like your's on the road is a number one concern, but you want a BMW or Corvette, two of the most over played "look at me" cars on the streets of America?

Screw what everyone else has or thinks, go for the merits of the car and the one that puts a smile on your face 7 years later.
 
whine-whine-whine-make-myself-feel-better-i'm-so-awesome
It's apparent that somehow bothers you.
Yes, you constantly interjecting about this uber-best-awesome thing you will eventually do is annoying. Shit or get off the pot, but don't keep telling us all about your special little turd until it's actually here. Or at least don't keep telling us how much better your turd is than every other piece of shit out there. It isn't, and we don't care.
 
Yes, you constantly interjecting about this uber-best-awesome thing you will eventually do is annoying. Shit or get off the pot, but don't keep telling us all about your special little turd until it's actually here. Or at least don't keep telling us how much better your turd is than every other piece of shit out there. It isn't, and we don't care.

what? This just came up recently that I was going to finally do the LS1.

Prior to that I wasn't sure if turbo charging my current engine, going SR or RB, etc would be best.

Pretty much the best way to go and an even better fit than stock is the LSx engines.

I am in the process of paying off some debt though before I start. I am down to $14k from 42k October 2009. So probably mid year 2011 as soon as I can take a couple weeks off and do it.

If I don't just start over on another car that is.

I never have said it's better than every other car though. I will say you will hear the 240SX come up in motorsports a lot more than a baller Legacy GT.
 
So rarity and not seeing another car like your's on the road is a number one concern, but you want a BMW or Corvette, two of the most over played "look at me" cars on the streets of America?

Screw what everyone else has or thinks, go for the merits of the car and the one that puts a smile on your face 7 years later.

Well real M3's and Z06's aren't very common here...however the corvette stigma is a key concern.

I like the E46 looks but I don't like the way it feels or looks inside. I feel like I am in an old man's Lexus. The E36 is great, but it's power is pretty pathetic for what I really want so I'd be back at square one with mods. Plus finding a E36 in perfect shape is going to be PITA.

Like I said though, they were just things I liked and give me some things I have to have in a car as a 2 door coupe is limiting enough.
 
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