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Blackjack200

Blackjack200

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Originally posted by: Platypus
Originally posted by: Blackjack200
I think a lot people confuse Hendrix's musical talent with technical ability. Hendrix was able to tease sounds out of his guitar that no one else could, and he was a brillian musician. But I think quite a few guitarists have been better technical players.
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There are quite a few players who could do that, it's just that no one has heard of them if they don't follow that kind of music. Roy Buchanan was able to conjur sounds out of his telecaster that aren't even fathomable without the aid of effects despite him not using them. Jeff Beck is another example of this although he's a bit more popular.

Hendrix was at the right place at the right time to gain the immense popularity he did. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve it but that remains true. Much like people think Cobain was a revolutionary (sorry, he's not) guitarist because he was at the right place in history.
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This is true. I don't get the Cobain thing, I thought he was pretty much power chords and standard rock progressions.
 
Ns1

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: Platypus
Originally posted by: Blackjack200
I think a lot people confuse Hendrix's musical talent with technical ability. Hendrix was able to tease sounds out of his guitar that no one else could, and he was a brillian musician. But I think quite a few guitarists have been better technical players.
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There are quite a few players who could do that, it's just that no one has heard of them if they don't follow that kind of music. Roy Buchanan was able to conjur sounds out of his telecaster that aren't even fathomable without the aid of effects despite him not using them. Jeff Beck is another example of this although he's a bit more popular.

Hendrix was at the right place at the right time to gain the immense popularity he did. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve it but that remains true. Much like people think Cobain was a revolutionary (sorry, he's not) guitarist because he was at the right place in history.
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Anyone who thinks Cobain was a revolutionary guitarist should be shot
 
Platypus

Platypus

Lifer
Apr 26, 2001
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Here's a great example of a master at work who gets absolutely no credit outside musician circles:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXoA7JjDU9g (Roy Buchanan, sorry for shitty title it's done to avoid copyright probably)

This was recorded in 1975 albeit a few years after Hendrix, though you can tell he's been playing that way for many MANY years before Hendrix hit the scene to have that kind of mastery of the instrument. Roy was the first guitarist that I ever heard that could make his guitar weep and howl or scream just using playing dynamics.

Look at Robert Fripp... King Crimson's first album came out in 1969 and on that one album he completely changed music forever and how many people know his name? Hell, 21st Century Schizoid man is one of the first 'metal' songs ever before Sabbath came to fruition. Fripp also pioneered soundscapes and perfected the art. This is 1969, the same year Hendrix died.

Hendrix was a brilliant musical talent but there are many others out there that people just haven't heard of.
 
jman19

jman19

Lifer
Nov 3, 2000
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Originally posted by: jjsole
Originally posted by: hiromizu
Kurt Cobain was way better. Artistically, commercially and technically. He also influenced everyone of every genre. This cannot be said about Hendrix but kudos to him regardless as he wrote a few famous songs like Hey Joe.
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Sure, if you consider ripping other's songs as artistic.
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You need to tap your sarcasm meter... I think :confused:
 
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TechBoyJK

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Oct 17, 2002
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Originally posted by: Platypus
Here's a great example of a master at work who gets absolutely no credit outside musician circles:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXoA7JjDU9g (Roy Buchanan, sorry for shitty title it's done to avoid copyright probably)

This was recorded in 1975 albeit a few years after Hendrix, though you can tell he's been playing that way for many MANY years before Hendrix hit the scene to have that kind of mastery of the instrument. Roy was the first guitarist that I ever heard that could make his guitar weep and howl or scream just using playing dynamics.

Look at Robert Fripp... King Crimson's first album came out in 1969 and on that one album he completely changed music forever and how many people know his name? Hell, 21st Century Schizoid man is one of the first 'metal' songs ever before Sabbath came to fruition. Fripp also pioneered soundscapes and perfected the art. This is 1969, the same year Hendrix died.

Hendrix was a brilliant musical talent but there are many others out there that people just haven't heard of.
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What's the name of the other guy that's in King Crimson?? blond haired dude.. he's crazy too
 
Platypus

Platypus

Lifer
Apr 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: Platypus
Here's a great example of a master at work who gets absolutely no credit outside musician circles:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXoA7JjDU9g (Roy Buchanan, sorry for shitty title it's done to avoid copyright probably)

This was recorded in 1975 albeit a few years after Hendrix, though you can tell he's been playing that way for many MANY years before Hendrix hit the scene to have that kind of mastery of the instrument. Roy was the first guitarist that I ever heard that could make his guitar weep and howl or scream just using playing dynamics.

Look at Robert Fripp... King Crimson's first album came out in 1969 and on that one album he completely changed music forever and how many people know his name? Hell, 21st Century Schizoid man is one of the first 'metal' songs ever before Sabbath came to fruition. Fripp also pioneered soundscapes and perfected the art. This is 1969, the same year Hendrix died.

Hendrix was a brilliant musical talent but there are many others out there that people just haven't heard of.
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What's the name of the other guy that's in King Crimson?? blond haired dude.. he's crazy too
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There have been a few but you're probably referring to Adrian Belew
 
JDub02

JDub02

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i'll throw in Brad Paisley for one of the best guitar players i've ever heard.

along with James Burton, Vince Gill, Albert Lee, John Jorgenson, Brent Mason, Redd Volkaert & Steve Wariner

listen to "cluster pluck" if you doubt their ability.
 
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TechBoyJK

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Oct 17, 2002
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Originally posted by: mrrman
Petrucci IMO
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Petrucci had the technical skill like 15 years ago. He's really starting to shine lately though, as he's getting much more experience outside of Dream theater. He's really going to come into his rightful guitar hero status over the next 10 years. He's really matured as a player.

(im a petrucci fanboy)
 
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lytalbayre

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Apr 28, 2005
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Not sure he even compares in terms of types of music and how he plays, but I love Stanley Jordan. He was pretty big in the 80s. His recent album State of Nature is awesome.

Thanks for the Roy Buchanan link... I'll be picking up some new CDs :).

 
Platypus

Platypus

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Apr 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: lytalbayre
Not sure he even compares in terms of types of music and how he plays, but I love Stanley Jordan. He was pretty big in the 80s. His recent album State of Nature is awesome.

Thanks for the Roy Buchanan link... I'll be picking up some new CDs :).
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:thumbsup:

Stanley Jordan is a monster too
 
BrokenVisage

BrokenVisage

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Jan 29, 2005
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EVH, Clapton, Eric Johnson to name a few.... just don't understand the love for Hendrix, but I didn't grow up in that generation either.

I'm with the Cobain detractors though. He's talented but no way an elite guitarist.
 
BurnItDwn

BurnItDwn

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: auntcleo
Originally posted by: kalster
Listening to Hendrix after a long time. This guy was so talented. Is there any other guitarist who comes remotely close to Jimmy.
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hit up herman li, he's even better
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He's quite an insane shredder, that's for certain ....
 
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SludgeFactory

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No one comes close in terms of influence. Rock music sounded totally different within a couple years of Hendrix's arrival.

Van Halen had a pretty big impact too, you can definitely define a lot of rock music in terms of pre- and post-Van Halen. (Unfortunately he ultimately spawned some pretty bad hair metal as well.)

These two guys, and almost all interesting lead players IMO, have a fantastic and unique sense and ability to convey rhythm in their playing, both in their lead and backing/rhythm parts. Hendrix's "technical abilities" may have been overshadowed long ago, but his rhythmic sense is still incredible to me.
 
ahenkel

ahenkel

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Adam Jones - Tool
Josh Homme - Queens of the Stone Age
Alain Johannes -Eleven
Mike McCready -Pearl Jam
Corrin tucker - Sleater-Kinney
David Amadour - Floater
 
Analog

Analog

Lifer
Jan 7, 2002
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SRV was a copy of Hendrix, so he's out, but an honorable mention. Seriously - how can you compare a pioneer to someone who emulates the pioneer?

Jeff Beck, Eric Clapton, have to be mentioned - check out Eric Clapton's crossroads concert video for a cadre of great players.
 
Red Dawn

Red Dawn

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IMO there might be some as good or better but none of them showcased their talent the way Hendrix did with the songs he wrote, at least the the instrumental parts like Manic Depression, Foxy Lady, etc.

To add to the list, Al Dimeola and John Mcgloughlin.
 
Red Irish

Red Irish

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Red Irish
SRV and Jeff Beck, as others have mentioned. Good call on John McLaughlin, Red, but Paco de Lucía is undoubtedly the greatest guitarist ever to have lived:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...1315A10E4158F&index=11
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Well at least one of the greatests.Paco, John and Al
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I'll settle for that, after all, nearly all the guitarists mentioned have deservedly reached immortal status, so I suppose it comes down to a question of taste.
 
rbV5

rbV5

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Surely Duane Allman is close to the top of the list. Uli Roth, a brilliant technical guitarist brought classical influence a decade before Yngwie appeared. Brian May is fantastic.

Alex Lifeson is almost never recognized for his greatness. Other Power trio guitarist like Rik Emmitt and Billy Gibbons.

Don't forget Randy Rhodes/Eddy Van Halen.

You never hear of guys like Pat Thrall, Alvin Lee or Ty Tabor.

Frank Marino, Ted Nugent...Robin Trower....Ronnie Montrose.

Carl Perkins, Brian Setzer, Ry Cooder.


Michael Schenker...Gary Hoey...on and on.
 
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