Help with Sims 2

bamacre

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Click on shortcut to start game ---> Crashes, and Windows 2000 reports DVD-rom drive ejected from system ---> have to reboot to get DVD back.

:( :|
 

imported_Phil

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Yeah, I had that when the drive wasn't compatible with the copy protection. I used a "patch" <cough> and the problem went away.
 

screw3d

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You know there's something wrong with the industry when pirates have easier times than legit buyers :(
 

mattg1981

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I always get no-cd cracks for games ... and I always buy legit retail games. I HATE! switching cd's just to play a game.
 

JackBurton

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Originally posted by: mattg1981
I always get no-cd cracks for games ... and I always buy legit retail games. I HATE! switching cd's just to play a game.
No sh!t. I like to just hit my little shortcut, and BAM, the game starts. Just like it should. :)
 

bamacre

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Yeah, the "fix" got it all working. Should have just downloaded the whole damn thing. I still get jerkiness and low frame rates with my setup. Horrible.
 

Jman13

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It sounds like there is something wrong with your system. Your system is at least twice as fast as mine, and I get good framerates, and very, very minimal jerkiness...and then, only when 'flying' into a new scene (such as the neighborhood). I only have a AXP 1700+ and a Radeon 9600 Pro.
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: Jman13
It sounds like there is something wrong with your system. Your system is at least twice as fast as mine, and I get good framerates, and very, very minimal jerkiness...and then, only when 'flying' into a new scene (such as the neighborhood). I only have a AXP 1700+ and a Radeon 9600 Pro.

Well, all of my other games play up to par considering my specs.
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: bamacre
Click on shortcut to start game ---> Crashes, and Windows 2000 reports DVD-rom drive ejected from system ---> have to reboot to get DVD back.

:( :|

Windows 2000 prolly the main problem..
game was designed for XP with 9.0c and SP2 =P
runs flawlessly on my setup
 

CVSiN

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windows 2000 has crappier drivers and is not as opptimized as a game platform.
2000 is built more for the office in mind...
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
windows 2000 has crappier drivers and is not as opptimized as a game platform.
2000 is built more for the office in mind...

BS, and even so, well, that's no excuse. Windows 2000 is more stable than XP, and that's been proven.

I have zero problems running any other game on 2000 pro. and I mean ANY.

THE FREAKING BOX SAYS THIS GAME WORKS ON WINDOWS 2000. So I don't want to hear any more BS about Windows 2000pro.

Minimum System Requirements for The Sims 2

If you have a T&amp;L capable video card with at least 32 MB of video RAM then you need at least:
800 MHz processor or better
256 MB RAM if Windows XP, Windows ME, Windows 98 or Windows 2000
At least 3.5 GB of hard drive space





This game is poorly written, and that's the bottom line.

 

CVSiN

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haha k newb thx for playing gg!

go join the rest of the smacktard newbs at the sims2.com that cant even figure out what the differnce between CD/DVD are =P
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
haha k newb thx for playing gg!

go join the rest of the smacktard newbs at the sims2.com that cant even figure out what the differnce between CD/DVD are =P

:roll:

So, when you can't prove I'm wrong, you just result to calling people names?

I have built every computer in my home, among others. I work for a living doing programming/database work. I think I know the difference between a CD and DVD.
 

CVSiN

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so that dont make you any less of a hardhead..
I gave you the solution you said "smoke this" too bad the problem is not EA the problem is yours...

I support "engineers and programmers" like you all day long .. programmers and engineers are soo hardheaded they never listen anyway.. that just about figures.. love when I prove them wrong on support... they kinda swallow and hate to admit defeat..
specially when I fix thier problem in 2 secs that they ddint want to call the help desk for and spend 4 hours trying to fix themselves =P

if the game runs well on other systems.. this is not the fault of the company... that is the fault of the consumer for not staying up to date or knowing how to tweak thier system to stay current..
windows 2000 is a 5 year old OS now.. time to join the 20th century...
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
so that dont make you any less of a hardhead..
I gave you the solution you said "smoke this" too bad the problem is not EA the problem is yours...

I support "engineers and programmers" like you all day long .. programmers and engineers are soo hardheaded they never listen anyway.. that just about figures.. love when I prove them wrong on support... they kinda swallow and hate to admit defeat..
specially when I fix thier problem in 2 secs that they ddint want to call the help desk for and spend 4 hours trying to fix themselves =P

if the game runs well on other systems.. this is not the fault of the company... that is the fault of the consumer for not staying up to date or knowing how to tweak thier system to stay current..
windows 2000 is a 5 year old OS now.. time to join the 20th century...


Look, you are an idiot.

Did I say my computer was the fastest in the world? No.
Did I say I was the smartest, geekiest, tech-brain here? No.
Did I say the game runs like sh$t on every computer?No.
Does the box say the game works on Windows 2000? Yes.

How is this MY fault?

It's not.

Windows 2000 may be 5 years old, but it is only one generation old in regards to Windows OS's. XP was built on the 2000 backbone.

Yeah, you game me a "possible" solution, and if you think I'm going to go out and spend $150 on Windows XP Pro, just so I can play the Sims 2, even when the BOX says it runs on Windows 2000, you are even dumber than I originally thought.
 

CVSiN

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would you use a 5 year old video card?
or a 5 year old processor?

no?
well there you go...
 

skace

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W2K and WXP are virtually identical Operating Systems. One is NT 5.0 and one is NT 5.1.
 

CVSiN

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lol they are 2 completely different animals.. not even close in kernals...
thats like comparing XP pro and and Server 2003
sure they look the same but do they operate the same...
no...
there was a Huge difference in that kernal
and they are not even close to the same OS...

btw its not considered anywhere anymore as NT 5.1
you put that on a cert test and they would laugh you into the fail line =P
 

imported_Phil

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
windows 2000 has crappier drivers and is not as opptimized as a game platform.
2000 is built more for the office in mind...

Windows 2000 &amp; XP share the same driver model. It's no coincidence that drivers are offered for the 9x platforms and for 2000/XP/2003.

Originally posted by: CVSiN
haha k newb thx for playing gg!

go join the rest of the smacktard newbs at the sims2.com that cant even figure out what the differnce between CD/DVD are =P

I see you flunked English.

Originally posted by: CVSiN
if the game runs well on other systems.. this is not the fault of the company... that is the fault of the consumer for not staying up to date or knowing how to tweak thier system to stay current..
windows 2000 is a 5 year old OS now.. time to join the 20th century...

Windows XP is a four-year-old OS, what's your point?

Also, this is the 21st century, "smacktard".

Originally posted by: CVSiN
lol they are 2 completely different animals.. not even close in kernals...
thats like comparing XP pro and and Server 2003
sure they look the same but do they operate the same...
no...
there was a Huge difference in that kernal
and they are not even close to the same OS...

btw its not considered anywhere anymore as NT 5.1
you put that on a cert test and they would laugh you into the fail line =P

Wrong. XP uses an extremely similar kernel to 2000. See my comment above about driver similarities. When XP first came out, surprise surprise, half the 2000 drivers worked perfectly with the new OS. If they'd changed the kernel as much as you think they did, then that wouldn't be the case.

By the way, it's kernel. Kernal is something completely different.

Go back and play in your sandbox, I think I saw someone steal your dollie.
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: Dopefiend
Originally posted by: CVSiN
windows 2000 has crappier drivers and is not as opptimized as a game platform.
2000 is built more for the office in mind...

Windows 2000 &amp; XP share the same driver model. It's no coincidence that drivers are offered for the 9x platforms and for 2000/XP/2003.

Um wrong again ronald... just becuase you get a driver that has multiple OS's supported does not mean it favors all...

there are usually different .inf files within those drivers


Originally posted by: CVSiN
haha k newb thx for playing gg!

go join the rest of the smacktard newbs at the sims2.com that cant even figure out what the differnce between CD/DVD are =P

I see you flunked English.

um ok whatever you say... I dont follow your insult but ok...


Originally posted by: CVSiN
if the game runs well on other systems.. this is not the fault of the company... that is the fault of the consumer for not staying up to date or knowing how to tweak thier system to stay current..
windows 2000 is a 5 year old OS now.. time to join the 20th century...

Windows XP is a four-year-old OS, what's your point?
um retard.. windows 2000 has been around since 1998 I tested it..
it was released in 1999 to the public...
and do some freaking math idiot... what date is it today...
we are almost to the end of another year.. the OS is actually almost 6 years old if you want to get technical..


Also, this is the 21st century, "smacktard".
ya and? this OS was written before the milleneum....
therefore my statement is correct...


Originally posted by: CVSiN
lol they are 2 completely different animals.. not even close in kernals...
thats like comparing XP pro and and Server 2003
sure they look the same but do they operate the same...
no...
there was a Huge difference in that kernal
and they are not even close to the same OS...

btw its not considered anywhere anymore as NT 5.1
you put that on a cert test and they would laugh you into the fail line =P

Wrong. XP uses an extremely similar kernel to 2000. See my comment above about driver similarities. When XP first came out, surprise surprise, half the 2000 drivers worked perfectly with the new OS. If they'd changed the kernel as much as you think they did, then that wouldn't be the case.

By the way, it's kernel. Kernal is something completely different.

Go back and play in your sandbox, I think I saw someone steal your dollie.


This last statement is still as laughable as it was when I responded to the above poster..
YES the drivers were silmilar... but there were not 100% functional..
these are 2 VERY VERY different OS.s if half you freaking retards were actually in the Industry and supposted and trained on multiple OS's instead of just reading the freaking web all day you might GET A FREAKING CLUE.

just becasue drivers were cross platform does not make them the same...

the later drivers that are optimized for XP were way better than these early POS drivers..
I know I have been in the Microsoft testing program for over 9 years...
I hold or have in the past held
MCSE 4.0
MCSA 2000
MCSA 2003
MOUS Office XP
MCP 98
MCP Windows 2000
MCP Windows XP Pro
MCDST

I know how to support systems and I know the difference between a Kernel and a Kernal.. BFD i typoed so freaking what...

So get the fvck off your so called high horse and do some freaking homework asshat.

2000 is NOT designed as a gaming OS...
that was my POINT...
XP does this better and it works 500% better in that aspect..
END OF FVCKING ARGUMENT..

 

skace

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I don't need to take a cert test, I already work as a Server Administrator. The reason Windows 2003 is different than XP Pro is that, by default, Windows 2003 comes locked down. Nearly everything is locked down from IE to unsigned drivers. If you unlock everything you'd end up with a very similar OS. You can also lock the hell out of XP Pro by using Group Policy Editor / Active Directory. Although the main difference will still be in a number of tools you won't have in XP Pro that 2K3 comes with.

I don't see why anyone would laugh at NT 5.1. It is still the common reportable OS as far as tools such as srvinfo are concerned:

NT Type: NT Advanced Server -
Version: 5.1
Product Name: Microsoft Windows XP

Although, I wouldn't tell a company that "I know NT 5.1", the reality is that you ARE using NT 5.1 as it was built off of NT 5.0 which is Windows 2000. Guess what version of NT Windows 2K3 is? That's right, it is NT 5.2.

Additional Information:
I've yet to find a game that works in XP but was not playable in Windows 2000.
I've never seen a driver written solely for XP, only 2000 drivers that were updated to better support both XP and 2000.
2000 was never considered a gaming OS, because at the time of its release, there was VERY FEW drivers for it. This is no longer the case as it was 5 years ago.
 

CVSiN

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I know this skace... and I wasnt repsonding to you..
I know that it is NT technology and the unofficial designation and that the kernels were similar....
but XP was written from the ground up to support more of the home environment including all the multimedia and games that comes with that role..

2000 is just not that friendly to the average joe that needs a cpu to do those things...
it wasnt meant to be...

this is solved by geeks like you and me.. having our Server/work OSs done with a dual boot..
game on XP do everything else on 2000...

and as a system admin with M$ certs you dont need to spend any money on XP..
MS will give you eval copies with 180 days on each one...

ive got at least 40 of these from MS in my role so far..
they come all the time with technet stuff...
as well as Server2003 2000Server and ISA server....

anyway I'm tired of argueing.. as a system admin and fellow geek you should know everything im telling you is not BS...

Most uber geeks I know use dual/triple boots to have everything they want...
Linux/Windows 2000 or Server 2003/ XP pro