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Help!!! wife and I are stuck at an impasse***update***

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Originally posted by: 40oz
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Is this one of those "I want to change my entire life partway through it!" things or were you foolish enough to have children way too early?

If I had to pick one... I would pick neither. Granted our first child was concived a little earilier than planned. the second child was also a little sooner than expected. but having kids changes your entire life anyway.

Ok, so what made you choose to go to school, have a couple of kids, and be married all at the same time? To me this just sounds like the stupidest thing a person can do. That is only my opinion based on my life though, and you could see it differently. (Yeah, I'm hoping for a quick explanation. 😛)
 
Tough call, I'd be tempted to ask wife to work long enough to pay back the unpaid leave, and then reassess everything.

I'd suggest she work part time though.

3 problems come to mind:

1.) She'll prob resent it if she returns to work full time & puts the children in day care, that whole motherhood/children thing can come back to bite you in the backside later... Might be better for her to compromise long enough to cover the paid leave, then drop back to part time.

2.) I'd suggest full time school for you & part time work, it gets difficult to balance everything, maight as well put work on the back burner right away.

3.) Home ownership is seriously expensive & time consuming, if you buy a house now, it may not be what you 2 will want when you're done with school & hopefully able to afford more house, & maybe looking @ relocating to find a job after shcool.

You will not likely see a return on your investment in a house in 3-5 years.

Hang in there, it gets lots easier with a little more time...
 
You have a 5 yr old and a 2 month old who will be spending more of their day in daycare and being totted about in cars than they will in the new house or with either of their parents? "Quality life" for whom?
 
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: 40oz
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
What's your current situation?

wife is on paid leave from job I am working full time at a call center doing tech support. she was working full time. if she does not go back to work we have to pay back all the money for her leave



How long is her leave for, total time and time left?

Also, what about unpaid leave of absense.

Can she jsut work part-time if needed, they children need her.

Total leave is 12wks (FMLA) total time left: 8 wks with 6 of the 8 wks unpaid

There is no option for part time at her current job

 
Originally posted by: 40oz
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: 40oz
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
What's your current situation?

wife is on paid leave from job I am working full time at a call center doing tech support. she was working full time. if she does not go back to work we have to pay back all the money for her leave



How long is her leave for, total time and time left?

Also, what about unpaid leave of absense.

Can she jsut work part-time if needed, they children need her.

Total leave is 12wks (FMLA) total time left: 8 wks with 6 of the 8 wks unpaid

There is no option for part time at her current job

How long @ full time till her leave is covered?

 
You haven't really said whether you wife wants to work or not. Why is it so important that you go to school right now? Why don't you work full-time but with a flex-schedule and have your wife work part time. Arrange your schedules so that someone is always home with the kids. Use the school money to afford a modest house. Consider moving to a part of the country where you can afford a modest house for what you are currently paying rent. IMHO paying rent is stupid. The tax breaks house ownership gives you means it is often far cheaper, not to mention the whole investment-for-the-future angle.

 
I have a 6 yr old, 3.5 yr old and a 2.5 yr old. my wife chooses to stay home until the youngest is in kindergarten.

for us the decision is easier, if we had 2 kids in day care full time and our oldest in an afterschool program we would pay about $1300 / month.

sure it's a tax write off, but it's not worth whatever she'd make above and beyond it for us to risk what it will do to the kids.
 
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: 40oz
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Is this one of those "I want to change my entire life partway through it!" things or were you foolish enough to have children way too early?

If I had to pick one... I would pick neither. Granted our first child was concived a little earilier than planned. the second child was also a little sooner than expected. but having kids changes your entire life anyway.

Ok, so what made you choose to go to school, have a couple of kids, and be married all at the same time? To me this just sounds like the stupidest thing a person can do. That is only my opinion based on my life though, and you could see it differently. (Yeah, I'm hoping for a quick explanation. 😛)

We had one kid "out of wed lock" got married when he was 3 then decided that we wanted to have another kid AFTER we had a house but it happend a little sooner than we wanted it to. The reason I want to go to school is at first I thought that Iwould be able to advance at my current company. But i am finding out that w/o college it is tough to find any thing above what i have.


 
Originally posted by: ExplodingBoy
You haven't really said whether you wife wants to work or not. Why is it so important that you go to school right now? Why don't you work full-time but with a flex-schedule and have your wife work part time. Arrange your schedules so that someone is always home with the kids. Use the school money to afford a modest house. Consider moving to a part of the country where you can afford a modest house for what you are currently paying rent. IMHO paying rent is stupid. The tax breaks house ownership gives you means it is often far cheaper, not to mention the whole investment-for-the-future angle.

Wife does not want to work.
Currently I live in Kansas City and with all of the tech lay-offs in the area. It is almost impossible to find a tech job in the area. my tech support center is turning in to a cusomer care center (read fear for my job)
I would have to agree with you that renting is stupid
 
#2, Trust me the first couple years of your kids life is worth much more than anything you could ever imagine. spend sometime with the kids and wife eventhough is hard on ya.

--Scsi
 
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
You have a 5 yr old and a 2 month old who will be spending more of their day in daycare and being totted about in cars than they will in the new house or with either of their parents? "Quality life" for whom?
I think you may have misread my wife said that two full time jobs would be QUANITIY not quality

 
I'll have to go with #2...

IMO, you shouldnt be having kids if as soon as they are born you are going to throw them into daycare. Too many latchkey kids these days.
 
There are some wonderful daycares out there. Nonetheless, my persoanl philosophy is never let non-family watch children under 5.... that's just me, and I have a big family, but you get the idea.
 
Thank you everyone for your input. Don't get me wrong I am not against my wife staying home. It just makes me nervous having to cut our budget that close (and we are talking CLOSE)
 
Yep my wife is stay at home with a 25 month and a 5 month old .
We are giving up some money so the kids get quality. remember this kids learn 70% of what they will know by the age of 5 .
So what do you want to have the most impact on their lives?
 
Do #2. Don't make your kids spend so much time away from home, away from mom. Especially that young.
They will thank you later, and take care of you in your old age.
 
Originally posted by: 40oz
Thank you everyone for your input. Don't get me wrong I am not against my wife staying home. It just makes me nervous having to cut our budget that close (and we are talking CLOSE)

My budget is close, trust me. We get by every month day in and day out. We've had no emergencies. What scared us the most is that we were married for 10 years with 2 incomes and no kids, and when we started to consider 1 income and an extra mouth, our lifestyles took a sudden and drastic turn.

I can say that I would do the exact same thing all over again if I was in the situation again. Trust me on that one. I can see a huge difference in my son vs. his friends who grew up in daycare.
 
2. Never send a kid to daycare whenever possible. Have one parent at home...too many parents arent being parents.
 
Originally posted by: Mallow
gotta make time for the kids :/

agreed....ur kids are in a pivotal stage where they need a parent figure the most............go w/ 2...it's a lighter workload, ...it's better for ur kids...

as for 3...it's better financially, but donno...u might regret for not spending too much time w/ your kids when they were younger..................

good luck in ur decision dude
 
Don't do #3...the first few years are irreplacable. (just went/going through it now)

My sister is working f/t, and I know it kills her when the baby is crying, and wants the daycare lady instead of her. =😱
The school district thing is challenging...a better school makes a difference, even at that young age. But, there's additional cost for you (more rent, more daycare for #2) vs #2. Quality of baby-raising is the first priority in my mind, and $$ has to come after that.

I still vote for #2 until the little one is into at least 1/2 day school. BTW, 2 month old kids are in daycare, not pre-school.

I did a variation on #2: I worked f/t, school p/t, wife worked p/t eveniings, so no daycare. We finally moved, a couple of years later than originally planned, and bought house in better school system. Child #1 in first grade now, #2 in KG in the fall. Debt up to our eyeballs. 🙁 It's the trade-off we made to have at least one parent home with the kids at all times.
 
Well, in my family, my spouse was back in college full-time from the time our oldest was 3 months old, until he was six (BS then MS). During undergrad, we both (well, mostly me) ran a computer business from home. I had my son all the time, took him on parts runs, only left him with my Dad or my spouse when I was at a customer's house that was not a close friend or relative. Didn't make a whole lot of money, but did OK. Had second kid, sold our business and moved to California for grad school. Lived off of fellowships, grants, part-time jobs spouse scrounged up in the department, TA/RA position, student loans. Broke, living in family housing, but very happy to have the kids home. Day care down in Davis was so expensive that even if we wanted to, my wages would have been laughable after you figure in the price of daycare, even with my degree and work experience. Spouse got a DE job for Intel last year, we bought the most absolutely perfect property (11 acres, very secluded, but only 20 minutes from work). Couldn't have afforded it before this (well, maybe before the kids came along). Youngest is 3. I'll be back working when she goes to school, or more likely, will start a new home business this year.

Upshot of it is, I planned on daycare for my first kid, but couldn't bear to do it after spending months job searching unsuccessfully after his birth (and a move from state to state). I wanted us to be his primary influence, not some strangers. As someone said before, the first five years of a child's life are tremendously important for shaping the kid's moral, emotional and intellectual growth. I don't see the logic in sending kids to daycare (unless it is a close relative that you trust) until 5, then staying home. At that point, they're in school and unless you homeschool, will be out of the house most of the day anyway. Monetary sacrifices are much easier to live with than sacrificing your child's development. Who do you want the child to bond with?

I'm not trying to slam people who chose to use daycare. This is just what we chose for our family.

BD
 
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