Help needed i5 2500k Sandy Bridge Overclock Settings

[Bubba91873]

2.10 and 2.19 i think are meant for ivy bridge processors and not compatible with sandy bridge.

I just went back doubled-checked again and went into bios and choosed every ez oc option 1 at a time, saved changes and reboot and they still kept the cpu at 3.30.

I have followed the guides and the advice given so far and I do not consider myself to be a dummy. Something just isn;t right here and I am at a loss as to what to try next.

 

[Burpo]

What does CPU-Z say is your speed?

http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

You can get a new bios chip with whatever flash you want on it..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BIOS-Chip-A...676?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cc6cf5e84

 

[MadScientist]

I have to agree with others here that the newer bios versions should not matter. They should be backwards compatible, but if you want to flash back to an earlier version then go for it. Set the bios to its default settings and go from there.

And as Burpo suggested download the latest version of CPU-Z.
Also get the latest versions of Coretemp and Intel Burn Test.
http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/intelburntest.html

 

[Bubba91873]

Here is a good explanation for why I am having problems with bios versions Beta 2.19 and main bios 2.10.

http://forums.tweaktown.com/asrock/...intel-6-series-x79-chipset-mother-boards.html

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The problem is this: If you use a Sandy Bridge (2nd Generation Intel Core Processor) CPU in your board, and do not plan on changing to an Ivy Bridge (3rd Generation Intel Core Processor) CPU, but update your BIOS/UEFI to the version that provides support for Ivy Bridge/Intel 3rd Generation CPUs, your PC will experience issues after the update.

If you are NOT planning on changing your Sandy Bridge processor to an Ivy Bridge processor, DO NOT USE THIS BIOS UPDATE!

The newer bios is not compatible with sandy bridge processors like my i5 2500k.

 

[Bubba91873]

For some reason I cannot download the 1.6 bios from the link provided, page times out.
http://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?t=15952

Until I can get it and retry using the guides provided by you guys I'm stuck waiting.

I do also want to thank you once again for your patience and time.I hope to get this solved and get a good cpu OC.

If there are other "legitimate" links to older bios for my mobo (Asrock Extreme6 (B3) ) that you are aware of, please send my way.

I have CPU-Z, Core Temp and Prime 95 installed and ready to go.
Here is a current screenshot from CPU-Z,Core Temp with just default UEFI settings loaded and bios 2.10 as of right now.

Keep inmind I did not update this bios to 2.19, asrock techs did this when I rma'ed the board.

 

[Burpo]

I have linked you (twice) to a new bios chip, that YOU CAN SPECIFY which flash you want on the chip when you buy.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BIOS-Chip-ASROCK-P67-EXTREME6-/261033516676

 

[Bubba91873]

I have linked you (twice) to a new bios chip, that YOU CAN SPECIFY which flash you want on the chip when you buy.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BIOS-Chip-ASROCK-P67-EXTREME6-/261033516676

The problem is my wife will not allow me to buy anything off of Ebay or Amazon due to a incident we had in 2007 when we bought something off amazon, theifs took our personal info and bought 7,000 worth of computer parts from compaqusa before my bank stopped the account.
Since then she is paranoid to do so. The thief was photographed at a atm in Florida using my info.But they were never caught.

Buying the new bios chip will be a last resort and I would have to do some heavy convincing to my wife to allow the purchase.

 

[Bubba91873]

This guy has a similar problem i am having as well.

mean6
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums...hread-Extreme6-amp-Pro3-owners-welcome/page75

 

[Ketchup]

Well, if we go by that thread (and I don't see why we shouldn't at this point) not being about to get a flashed chip (which will be almost impossible to find outside of ebay) you are stuck with an un-overclocked chip. Which isn't a horrible thing. It is still a very good chip, and depending on what you are doing, and overclock would offer a fairly small real-world benefit anyway.

Now, you can still get new boards for that chip from good etailers, but that really would be a waste, just for an overclock.

 

[Bubba91873]

Well, if we go by that thread (and I don't see why we shouldn't at this point) not being about to get a flashed chip (which will be almost impossible to find outside of ebay) you are stuck with an un-overclocked chip. Which isn't a horrible thing. It is still a very good chip, and depending on what you are doing, and overclock would offer a fairly small real-world benefit anyway.

Now, you can still get new boards for that chip from good etailers, but that really would be a waste, just for an overclock.

I came to the same conclusion as well and fear to go back any further with a older bios even if I could download one. The thread I pointed too says it'll likely endup bricked.

I fired off an email to Asrock tech support to see if they would send out or let me buy a new bios chip from them.
If that doesn't work then I'll buy the chip off ebay through paypal perhaps.

I do alot of high-end rendering of 3d models, modeling and texturing and texture baking. These are very cpu and video intensive.
Alot of my work is shown on military-meshes.com as a "hobby".

 

[myocardia]

The problem is my wife will not allow me to buy anything off of Ebay or Amazon due to a incident we had in 2007 when we bought something off amazon, theifs took our personal info and bought 7,000 worth of computer parts from compaqusa before my bank stopped the account.
Since then she is paranoid to do so. The thief was photographed at a atm in Florida using my info.But they were never caught.

Buying the new bios chip will be a last resort and I would have to do some heavy convincing to my wife to allow the purchase.

My condolences. 1) Go to your bank, and get one twenty and one five dollar bill. 2) Take said bills to a convenience store, and leave with a disposable Visa debit card, with $20 debited to the account. 3) Buy said ebay bios chip, using disposable debit card. 4) Enjoy having functional motherboard, with zero chance of having your financial data put at risk.

 

[MadScientist]

Try downloading V1.70 from here: http://www.techspot.com/drivers/driver/file/information/15359/

 

[Bubba91873]

Try downloading V1.70 from here: http://www.techspot.com/drivers/driver/file/information/15359/

Asrock through emails is sending me a new Bios Chip for 15 bucks and im paying through money order.
I will wait for the chip before I do anything else and make sure they have a older bios on it that is usable for my cpu.
I did dl the 1.70 bios and ty for the link. If I get tired of waiting I'll try it.

Once I am ready to try to oc the board again I will post back here for help and I appreciate all that you guys provided to me. Thank you.

 

[Sonikku]

Here is a good explanation for why I am having problems with bios versions Beta 2.19 and main bios 2.10.

http://forums.tweaktown.com/asrock/...intel-6-series-x79-chipset-mother-boards.html

Snipped:
The problem is this: If you use a Sandy Bridge (2nd Generation Intel Core Processor) CPU in your board, and do not plan on changing to an Ivy Bridge (3rd Generation Intel Core Processor) CPU, but update your BIOS/UEFI to the version that provides support for Ivy Bridge/Intel 3rd Generation CPUs, your PC will experience issues after the update.

If you are NOT planning on changing your Sandy Bridge processor to an Ivy Bridge processor, DO NOT USE THIS BIOS UPDATE!

The newer bios is not compatible with sandy bridge processors like my i5 2500k.

I use the H77m asrock mother board http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/H77M/?cat=Specifications with the latest bios and am planning on getting a sandy bridge i5-2500 sr00t. Will I encounter problems too if I don't roll back my bios or am I safe?

 

[Ketchup]

Hate that they seemed to have bricked them that way. My Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 has the latest BIOS supporting Ivy Bridge and it took my 2500k to 4.9 once when I was testing.

Maybe just an Asrock thing.

 

[Bubba91873]

I use the H77m asrock mother board http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/H77M/?cat=Specifications with the latest bios and am planning on getting a sandy bridge i5-2500 sr00t. Will I encounter problems too if I don't roll back my bios or am I safe?

It seems to be a hit or miss thing that depends on factors beyond our control. By asrock techs putting the beta bios on my board when I rma'ed it is possible they did not install it correctly, what i mean is from that article i linked, if you pull the flas drive too early it does not comeplete the operation leaving your board in a state where it cannot be oc'ed for some and for others it works fine.
For my specific mobo and cpu, asrock warns that if i downgrade the bios there is a chance the board will not work again until the chip is replaced according to the article and the cryptic warning it gives on the bios download.

I sent them the board 2 years ago without the cpu and cooler becuase of a failure of the board to power on one day when I wokeup and went to get on the comp there was no power. I tried trading good for bad parts and stripping it barebones, reaseated the cpu with new paste etc. before rma'ing. The mobo had 2 months left on the warranty or so.

I cannot say in your case wether you would experiance the same issue or not. I hope not.

 

[Bubba91873]

Hate that they seemed to have bricked them that way. My Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 has the latest BIOS supporting Ivy Bridge and it took my 2500k to 4.9 once when I was testing.

Maybe just an Asrock thing.

Asrock in their attempt to support ivy bridge processors seems to not acknowlege that it can make sandy bridge support for some totally unworkable.
The cpu will function but you loose the ability to overclock in the bios.
I cannot set the multiplier higher then 37 nomatter what, and some settings are gone that was in the older versions of the bios.And 37 multi is not recognised, only as high as 33.

I am just glad that they have new bios chips and will send me another even if it is 15 bucks, i will wait for it and try again.

 

[Bubba91873]

I wouldnt blame you guys for thinking I was crazy or stupid at first when reporting this problem. It is a rare issue that most will not experiance.

I am graduate of TIE technical school here in Knoxville and have built and repaired comps for 14 years. The school itself is/was terrible and I learned more through trial and error then I ever learned in that school. I got certified in comp repair.

I never felt the need to oc until now becuase I wanted a cheap way to upgrade without replacing my comp parts due to being poor in the money department atm. This is when I discovered the issue and why I wasn't getting the full benefit out of what I have. I wished I had looked into it sooner.

 

[Ketchup]

As mentioned, you could get a prepaid card to sign up an ebay account and get something like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gigabyte-GA...115?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cc9ac8ba3

Not bad for a new board. And you are buying from a seller with very good rating. There is a reason this Gigabyte boards are holding their value to well.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

As mentioned, you could get a prepaid card to sign up an ebay account and get something like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gigabyte-GA...115?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cc9ac8ba3

Not bad for a new board. And you are buying from a seller with very good rating. There is a reason this Gigabyte boards are holding their value to well.

Reluctantly, I must agree. For obvious reasons, P67 is the worst of three chipset choices for that CPU. Maybe that explains the BIOS problem; maybe it doesn't.

IIRC, even early Z68 boards came with a question-mark about Ivy-Bridge compatibility. For whatever reason -- we could imagine some, too -- initial board releases were followed by a "Gen3" release. For instance, my P8Z68-V Pro board was followed by a P8Z68-V Pro/Gen3.

Long ago in my ancient PC history, in the days of Prince Conroe, Earl of Kentsfield, Lord Wolfdale and the Duke of Yorkfield, NVidia was still a chipset maker. But the 680i chipsets wouldn't grant entrance to Duke Yorkfield: only Wolfdale was allowed in the castle. Worse, though, there was an "optimal" BIOS version released about the time Kentsfield was stepping up from B3 to G0. The G0 BIOS didn't play well with Lord Kentsfield. On the upside, King Intel and the wicked Queen NVidia allowed you to stick the Duke into a 780i motherboard.

At least these hassles are less problematic, now that NVidia is out of the chipset business and the NVidia-Intel dispute is -- well -- just ancient history.

But considering that P67 was sort a of a "preemie:" -- arriving too soon for the full Sandy Bridge features (Graphics 3000) -- The $100+ investment in a Z68 board will not be much lost of you can either keep the computer for a couple years, or find someone else who wants to do just that -- for a couple Franklins -- more, or less.

 

[Bubba91873]

As mentioned, you could get a prepaid card to sign up an ebay account and get something like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gigabyte-GA...115?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cc9ac8ba3

Not bad for a new board. And you are buying from a seller with very good rating. There is a reason this Gigabyte boards are holding their value to well.

Thats a nice looking board.
I went with asrock due to reviews. At the time it was hot item.

When I bought the board, cpu and cooler etc it was during a newegg firesale, and for the money I paid at the time I thought it was a good investment with a nice looking board. $450ish for all 3 plus a hdmi cable and paste.That was January 2012. Board went bad about 1 year after purchase and got replaced from asrock, been steady for last 2 years.

I am hoping to keep from upgrading or replacing parts for at least another yearish or so. Then thats when I will put alot of money into an all new rig.

If.....I could find someone through a computer selling swapping group I know of here in knox, I might be able to pull off the purchase.