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Q to F3. attack if he doesn't castle.


*i'm a rank amatuer, but that move looks like you'll be able to control the upper right portion of the board if you're willing to take a risk and sacrifice knight on d5 - now someone tell how wrong this is ;)
 

computeerrgghh

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Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: computeerrgghh
IMO Qe2 > Bf1

it might be now, but if he had tried the Bf1 after the Knight trade, that would have been an excellent move.


Ah, I just got on and haven't looked/seen the history of the moves.
 

five40

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Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: computeerrgghh
IMO Qe2 > Bf1

it might be now, but if he had tried the Bf1 after the Knight trade, that would have been an excellent move.

He should have done Bf1 before the Knight trade. Bf1 now does nothing. If white does lose this he's got to mess up big time. Like I said, if I where black even in the current position I'd resign. Two COMPLETELY useless knights, no developed attack what so ever, a bishop doing nothing, and a king sitting out there waiting to get attacked. The only piece that is any good for black is Rh8.
 

five40

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Originally posted by: Jnetty99
Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: Jnetty99
Ok guys, forget about it, no ones fault but me. Lets not forget that i'm cheating using your help.
But going back its my turn, should i bring my bishop to F1?
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/jnetty99/Chess8.jpg

I would do h4 (pawn on h2 to h4).


done

Nice. If you keep posting the rest I'll be around for another couple hours. The game can be easily done by then. He should follow your move up with gxh4, then you should do Rxh4.
 

DaShen

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Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: computeerrgghh
IMO Qe2 > Bf1

it might be now, but if he had tried the Bf1 after the Knight trade, that would have been an excellent move.

He should have done Bf1 before the Knight trade. Bf1 now does nothing. If white does lose this he's got to mess up big time. Like I said, if I where black even in the current position I'd resign. Two COMPLETELY useless knights, no developed attack what so ever, a bishop doing nothing, and a king sitting out there waiting to get attacked. The only piece that is any good for black is Rh8.

QFT. But in a 2200 rank match, the Knight trade would have been better than preemptively going for the bishop to Queen attack.
 

zebano

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Qe2 is an excellent move.

1. It threatens Nxc5 (e pawn can't recapture due to the pin and Q can't recapture due to the bishop on g2) However, as soon as you move that knight, you are allowing black to win your c4 pawn. He is cramped, don't help him out of the jam. Your pawn chain will also start to fall if you do that.

2. It allows Nb5 > d6 this is an excellent post for you knigh (not you could also do this via a4 then Nb5, but this allowws his knight to hop to the b4 square (a huge improvement over it's current post).

General plans. Connect the rook, get the king to saftey, and target the backwards e and f pawns. However, you can't castle ddue to the half open h file.

I would do this via. Qe2, 0-0-0 (castle long) and then Rd-e1 and finally Nb5. Of course his actions may force some changes in your plans but its a good start...
 

computeerrgghh

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Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: computeerrgghh
IMO Qe2 > Bf1

it might be now, but if he had tried the Bf1 after the Knight trade, that would have been an excellent move.

He should have done Bf1 before the Knight trade. Bf1 now does nothing. If white does lose this he's got to mess up big time. Like I said, if I where black even in the current position I'd resign. Two COMPLETELY useless knights, no developed attack what so ever, a bishop doing nothing, and a king sitting out there waiting to get attacked. The only piece that is any good for black is Rh8.


If I were white, I would look to get a piece on D6 ASAP, block any f5/e5 breaks, castle or get my king in safety somewhere and pile drive e6. Right now, I consider e6 one of black's biggest weakenesses. So anyplans White has should involve utilizing blacks weak squares. H4 IMO is not bad though it allows for black to possibly develop some counterplay on the g file.
 

zebano

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Oh is this a correspondance game of sorts? and if so does your opponent know that you are doing this? That would be highly unethical otherwise.
 

five40

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Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: computeerrgghh
IMO Qe2 > Bf1

it might be now, but if he had tried the Bf1 after the Knight trade, that would have been an excellent move.

He should have done Bf1 before the Knight trade. Bf1 now does nothing. If white does lose this he's got to mess up big time. Like I said, if I where black even in the current position I'd resign. Two COMPLETELY useless knights, no developed attack what so ever, a bishop doing nothing, and a king sitting out there waiting to get attacked. The only piece that is any good for black is Rh8.

QFT. But in a 2200 rank match, the Knight trade would have been better than preemptively going for the bishop to Queen attack.

No way it would a great move in a 2200 rank match because of the attack on the Knight, the possilbe attack on the queen, and the fact that the bishop is now attacking 4 open squares instead of 2.
 

DaShen

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Dec 1, 2000
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Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: Jnetty99
Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: Jnetty99
Ok guys, forget about it, no ones fault but me. Lets not forget that i'm cheating using your help.
But going back its my turn, should i bring my bishop to F1?
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/jnetty99/Chess8.jpg

I would do h4 (pawn on h2 to h4).


done

Nice. If you keep posting the rest I'll be around for another couple hours. The game can be easily done by then. He should follow your move up with gxh4, then you should do Rxh4.

He would more than likely want to leave it alone though, but considering the way this guys plays, he will more than likely do exactly as five40 just said.
 

Mayfriday0529

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Sep 15, 2003
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Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: Jnetty99
Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: Jnetty99
Ok guys, forget about it, no ones fault but me. Lets not forget that i'm cheating using your help.
But going back its my turn, should i bring my bishop to F1?
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/jnetty99/Chess8.jpg

I would do h4 (pawn on h2 to h4).


done

Nice. If you keep posting the rest I'll be around for another couple hours. The game can be easily done by then. He should follow your move up with gxh4, then you should do Rxh4.


Wait what? He moved his Knight, H6-G4 and took my Pawn. Why is the move backwars GXH4?
 

five40

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Oct 4, 2004
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Originally posted by: Jnetty99
Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: Jnetty99
Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: Jnetty99
Ok guys, forget about it, no ones fault but me. Lets not forget that i'm cheating using your help.
But going back its my turn, should i bring my bishop to F1?
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/jnetty99/Chess8.jpg

I would do h4 (pawn on h2 to h4).


done

Nice. If you keep posting the rest I'll be around for another couple hours. The game can be easily done by then. He should follow your move up with gxh4, then you should do Rxh4.


Wait what? He moved his Knight, H6-G4 and took my Pawn. Why is the move backwars GXH4?

Are you serious? Free knight?
 

Mayfriday0529

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Sep 15, 2003
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Originally posted by: zebano
Oh is this a correspondance game of sorts? and if so does your opponent know that you are doing this? That would be highly unethical otherwise.


No he doesnt know, he is sitting across from me at work. This is our third game, we are tied 1-1
 

DaShen

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Dec 1, 2000
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Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: computeerrgghh
IMO Qe2 > Bf1

it might be now, but if he had tried the Bf1 after the Knight trade, that would have been an excellent move.

He should have done Bf1 before the Knight trade. Bf1 now does nothing. If white does lose this he's got to mess up big time. Like I said, if I where black even in the current position I'd resign. Two COMPLETELY useless knights, no developed attack what so ever, a bishop doing nothing, and a king sitting out there waiting to get attacked. The only piece that is any good for black is Rh8.

QFT. But in a 2200 rank match, the Knight trade would have been better than preemptively going for the bishop to Queen attack.

No way it would a great move in a 2200 rank match because of the attack on the Knight, the possilbe attack on the queen, and the fact that the bishop is now attacking 4 open squares instead of 2.

Trading the Knight for the Bishop was a pretty good move, I thought. because that was Black only cutting, or attacking piece. If it was followed up by the Bf1 it would have been much better though because then you are feinging retreating your bishop.
 

Mayfriday0529

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Sep 15, 2003
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Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: Jnetty99
Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: Jnetty99
Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: Jnetty99
Ok guys, forget about it, no ones fault but me. Lets not forget that i'm cheating using your help.
But going back its my turn, should i bring my bishop to F1?
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/jnetty99/Chess8.jpg

I would do h4 (pawn on h2 to h4).


done

Nice. If you keep posting the rest I'll be around for another couple hours. The game can be easily done by then. He should follow your move up with gxh4, then you should do Rxh4.


Wait what? He moved his Knight, H6-G4 and took my Pawn. Why is the move backwars GXH4?

Are you serious? Free knight?


I guess so, chess 9

edit: I get it now, you expected his pawn to move and then my rook to take the pawn, but instead he moved the Knight and my queen is hungry?
 

DaShen

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Dec 1, 2000
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Originally posted by: Jnetty99
Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: Jnetty99
Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: Jnetty99
Ok guys, forget about it, no ones fault but me. Lets not forget that i'm cheating using your help.
But going back its my turn, should i bring my bishop to F1?
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/jnetty99/Chess8.jpg

I would do h4 (pawn on h2 to h4).


done

Nice. If you keep posting the rest I'll be around for another couple hours. The game can be easily done by then. He should follow your move up with gxh4, then you should do Rxh4.


Wait what? He moved his Knight, H6-G4 and took my Pawn. Why is the move backwars GXH4?

Take it with your Queen FTW. ;) that is hilarious.
 

five40

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Oct 4, 2004
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Originally posted by: Jnetty99
Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: Jnetty99
Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: Jnetty99
Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: Jnetty99
Ok guys, forget about it, no ones fault but me. Lets not forget that i'm cheating using your help.
But going back its my turn, should i bring my bishop to F1?
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/jnetty99/Chess8.jpg

I would do h4 (pawn on h2 to h4).


done

Nice. If you keep posting the rest I'll be around for another couple hours. The game can be easily done by then. He should follow your move up with gxh4, then you should do Rxh4.


Wait what? He moved his Knight, H6-G4 and took my Pawn. Why is the move backwars GXH4?

Are you serious? Free knight?


I guess so, chess 9

Take the Knight. Game over.