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zebano

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Jun 15, 2005
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Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: zebano
Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: Jnetty99
Black Unchecks again F8-G8, I move be5

black's move BTW...

Kh7, Qh8+
Kg6, Qh5?
Kh5

or

Kh7, Bf3
Rg8, ...


1. Be5 Kh7
2. Qxh8 Kg6
3. Bf3 Qxd6(or any move)
4. Qg7#

So it delays the mate by 1.

That doesn't delay mate by 1. It's been #3 since the Be5 move. We weren't counting the Be5 move.

Black does have another move you have not considered
1. Be5 Rh7 (white doesn't even have a continuing check much less mate in 2)


It is still a won game for white but not mate in 3.

Yes WHITE HAS MATE in 3. You have no idea what you are talking about. Black can NOT extend it. I want you to make blacks moves.

1. Be5 Rh7
2. Bf1

Make your move

1. Be5 Rh7
2. Bf1 Rg7

Edit - I had considered Bf3 not f1. After Rg1 then Rxg1 is check giving black an extra move.

Edit 2 - Reconsidering with further analysis


1. Be5 Rh7
2. Bf1 Rg7
3. Rg1 Nxc5

4a. Qxg7+ Qxg7
5a. Rxg7 Kf8 - black is still alive though lost.
4b. Rxg7 Qxg7
5b. Qxg7# - mate in 4
4c. Rxg7 Kh8 - mate in 1 for white (total of mate in 4)
 

sao123

Lifer
May 27, 2002
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I'll probly sign up for redhawtpawn and play a few games... anyone else?

Chess

One world
Made of Oak,
Two armies,
One white,
One black,
Each trying
To control,
Dominate,
Destroy
The other.
Not knowing,
Without the other
It ceases
To exist also.
The white king
Declares ?Charge!?
Let us win
This holy war.
With such
An emotional attack
One might think
Black might
Be defeated
Easily.
But?
Black counters
Whites offensive
Quickly,
Effectively,
Strategically,
Cold yet logical,
Waiting?
For White
To error.
Waiting?
The Black King
Terms his losses
As acceptable.
White moves
For the Kill.
Leaving himself
Exposed,
Waiting?
A bad position.
ATTACK...
A Blacks Knight Forks,
CHECK?
Whites Queen
Is lost,
The Army
In disarray.
A Black pawn
Promoted
To a Queen.
Two Black Queens,
One White King.
Check, Check, Check,
Checkmate?
No.
Desperation, Love,
Holy War.
White
Refuses
To die,
To be defeated.

Stalemate!

The War
Begins again,
Forever to continue.

 

five40

Golden Member
Oct 4, 2004
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Originally posted by: zebano
Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: zebano
Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: Jnetty99
Black Unchecks again F8-G8, I move be5

black's move BTW...

Kh7, Qh8+
Kg6, Qh5?
Kh5

or

Kh7, Bf3
Rg8, ...


1. Be5 Kh7
2. Qxh8 Kg6
3. Bf3 Qxd6(or any move)
4. Qg7#

So it delays the mate by 1.

That doesn't delay mate by 1. It's been #3 since the Be5 move. We weren't counting the Be5 move.

Black does have another move you have not considered
1. Be5 Rh7 (white doesn't even have a continuing check much less mate in 2)


It is still a won game for white but not mate in 3.

Yes WHITE HAS MATE in 3. You have no idea what you are talking about. Black can NOT extend it. I want you to make blacks moves.

1. Be5 Rh7
2. Bf1

Make your move

1. Be5 Rh7
2. Bf1 Rg7

Edit - I had considered Bf3 not f1. After Rg1 then Rxg1 is check giving black an extra move.

Edit 2 - Reconsidering with further analysis


1. Be5 Rh7
2. Bf1 Rg7
3. Rg1 Nxc5

4a. Qxg7+ Qxg7
5a. Rxg7 Kf8 - black is still alive though lost.
4b. Rxg7 Qxg7
5b. Qxg7# - mate in 4
4c. Rxg7 Kh8 - mate in 1 for white (total of mate in 4)


Mate in 3 starts after Be5. If you read the thread I didn't state #3 before Be5.
 

zebano

Diamond Member
Jun 15, 2005
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Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: zebano
Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: zebano
Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: Jnetty99
Black Unchecks again F8-G8, I move be5

black's move BTW...

Kh7, Qh8+
Kg6, Qh5?
Kh5

or

Kh7, Bf3
Rg8, ...


1. Be5 Kh7
2. Qxh8 Kg6
3. Bf3 Qxd6(or any move)
4. Qg7#

So it delays the mate by 1.

That doesn't delay mate by 1. It's been #3 since the Be5 move. We weren't counting the Be5 move.

Black does have another move you have not considered
1. Be5 Rh7 (white doesn't even have a continuing check much less mate in 2)


It is still a won game for white but not mate in 3.

Yes WHITE HAS MATE in 3. You have no idea what you are talking about. Black can NOT extend it. I want you to make blacks moves.

1. Be5 Rh7
2. Bf1

Make your move

1. Be5 Rh7
2. Bf1 Rg7

Edit - I had considered Bf3 not f1. After Rg1 then Rxg1 is check giving black an extra move.

Edit 2 - Reconsidering with further analysis


1. Be5 Rh7
2. Bf1 Rg7
3. Rg1 Nxc5

4a. Qxg7+ Qxg7
5a. Rxg7 Kf8 - black is still alive though lost.
4b. Rxg7 Qxg7
5b. Qxg7# - mate in 4
4c. Rxg7 Kh8 - mate in 1 for white (total of mate in 4)


Mate in 3 starts after Be5. If you read the thread I didn't state #3 before Be5.

Yes it does which means that there must be a move 4 where whie mates. There is not.4c (above) is not mate. Hence, not mate in 3.
 

five40

Golden Member
Oct 4, 2004
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Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: Jnetty99
So Any of you want to play against me at http://www.redhotpawn.com/

I just joined. Their interface is clunky. I hope you got my invite.


I registered too, but dont know anyones email address to start a game...
O well.

My username is the same there as it is here. I don't think you need to know the email address.
 

Mayfriday0529

Diamond Member
Sep 15, 2003
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Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: Jnetty99
So Any of you want to play against me at http://www.redhotpawn.com/

I just joined. Their interface is clunky. I hope you got my invite.


I registered too, but dont know anyones email address to start a game...
O well.

My username is the same there as it is here. I don't think you need to know the email address.


Yes, I got it... cool
Sao123, I just sent you an Invite
 

zebano

Diamond Member
Jun 15, 2005
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I sent you an invite JNetty. Feel free to take it up if your not swamped already =)
 

Mayfriday0529

Diamond Member
Sep 15, 2003
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Originally posted by: zebano
I sent you an invite JNetty. Feel free to take it up if your not swamped already =)


I got it Zebano

I'm playing 6 games right now, plus 4 on another website.
 

DaShen

Lifer
Dec 1, 2000
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Originally posted by: Jnetty99
Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: Jnetty99
So Any of you want to play against me at http://www.redhotpawn.com/

Not at work, but we can set something up ;)

You will probably beat me though. Haven't played since high school.

I play more Go now.


Well do it at home and make a move, then i make a move. I can wait, it does not have to be live playing.

Maybe.... I don't have broadband at home yet, and I kind of get sick of being in front of a computer all day and then going home to it as well, but I will try to log on later.
 

AbsolutDealage

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Dec 20, 2002
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Originally posted by: DaShen
Start another game with someone else, and we can suggest stuff again, that was fun :)

We should start an ATOT alias, where we do one move a day on a 1 game maximum, and everyone gets to decide where we move... maybe with poll's and such.
 

DaShen

Lifer
Dec 1, 2000
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Originally posted by: AbsolutDealage
Originally posted by: DaShen
Start another game with someone else, and we can suggest stuff again, that was fun :)

We should start an ATOT alias, where we do one move a day on a 1 game maximum, and everyone gets to decide where we move... maybe with poll's and such.

That would be cool :)
 

Mayfriday0529

Diamond Member
Sep 15, 2003
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Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: AbsolutDealage
Originally posted by: DaShen
Start another game with someone else, and we can suggest stuff again, that was fun :)

We should start an ATOT alias, where we do one move a day on a 1 game maximum, and everyone gets to decide where we move... maybe with poll's and such.

That would be cool :)


Interesting.
New thread though, would the poll be updated everyday? And when would the move be made, after lunch?
 

zebano

Diamond Member
Jun 15, 2005
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Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: AbsolutDealage
Originally posted by: DaShen
Start another game with someone else, and we can suggest stuff again, that was fun :)

We should start an ATOT alias, where we do one move a day on a 1 game maximum, and everyone gets to decide where we move... maybe with poll's and such.

That would be cool :)

It would also be a good way to lose.