Help me learn stick shift

[AgaBoogaBoo]

Find some old junker in the paper and learn on it

What price range of a car do you plan to buy? Maybe you can go get a car that runs for a thousand or two, learn, and then sell it

 

[sciencewhiz]

it's people like you that cause the rental companies to not have stick shifts.

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: Evadman

Originally posted by: kdp

Originally posted by: GoodDad
its overrated...get caught in traffic and have your left leg go numb and then tell me if you want to drive a stick.

Your leg has become numb from driving a manual transmission?

Mine has. 3+ hrs in stop and go city traffic does that, expecialy with a dual friction clutch.

Pansy

 

[Adica]

Let me just ask you why you want to drive a stick shift soooo bad. I know you love stickshifts and I know you want to buy a stickshift and I know that nobody you know has a stickshift...but why do you love STICKSHIFTS so much????

 

[sciencewhiz]

Here's a car with a manual transmission you can rent: http://www.bhrentacar.com/vehi...fo.php?vid=109&h=0

 

[RKS]

1. push the clutch all the way down with your left foot (far left peddle)

2. concurrently press the gas peddle with your right foot (far right peddle) until you RPMs are at 5000 or greater. The closer you are to the red portion of the RPM tachometer the better the chance you won't bog the engine.

3. quickly lift you left foot off of the clutch but keep the gas peddle depressed.

you are now 'driving stickshift'

 

[Viperoni]

Originally posted by: Evadman

Originally posted by: kdp

Originally posted by: GoodDad
its overrated...get caught in traffic and have your left leg go numb and then tell me if you want to drive a stick.

Your leg has become numb from driving a manual transmission?

Mine has. 3+ hrs in stop and go city traffic does that, expecialy with a dual friction clutch.

Now that sounds like fun

The clutch in my Topaz LS requires more pressure than the clutch in my friends 91 integra or 98 accord, but my foot didn't get tired after an hours worth of city traffic.

 

i learned when i bought my WRX
the one i test drove was auto...so the first time EVER driving a stick was my new WRX and it was in the dealers garage

it took me like 20 minutes to get out of there

 

[Zee]

Originally posted by: GoodDad
its overrated...get caught in traffic and have your nose clog up from the smell of your clutch and then tell me if you want to drive a stick.

fixed

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: Viperoni

Originally posted by: Evadman

Originally posted by: kdp

Originally posted by: GoodDad
its overrated...get caught in traffic and have your left leg go numb and then tell me if you want to drive a stick.

Your leg has become numb from driving a manual transmission?

Mine has. 3+ hrs in stop and go city traffic does that, expecialy with a dual friction clutch.

Now that sounds like fun

The clutch in my Topaz LS requires more pressure than the clutch in my friends 91 integra or 98 accord, but my foot didn't get tired after an hours worth of city traffic.

Yeah, stock Jap clutches tend to be pretty lite.

 

[imported_hscorpio]

Originally posted by: gutharius

Originally posted by: Evadman
If you were in IL i'd give you a lesson. Fly up here.

There are only 5 steps.

1. Push in clutch
2. put in next gear
3. press gas
4. release clutch slowly until moving forward.
5. accelerate
6 goto step 1

For me, step 4 is the hardest, especially in first gear. I end up killing the engine and that scares me because I don't want that to happen in traffic.

Last summer I bought a manual transmission car even though I didn't know how to drive it. I had my dad drive it to a parking lot where I learned.

The best thing to do is find the 'friction point'. To do this keep your foot of the gas, push down the clucth all the way, put the car in first gear and very slowly let the clutch out until the car starts to move forward. Once the car starts to move stop letting out the clutch and hold it there. This is the 'friction point'. Practice doing this so you can make the car crawl forward without using the gas or stalling.

Once you can do this the rest is easy. When you want to take off you do what you learned above but you do it faster while engaging the gas.

Knowng the 'friction point' also really helps for when your stopped on a hill so you don't roll back to much when you take off.

 

[Kishan]

can someone explain how to power shift, and shift without the clutch? I have a friend who is really good since he worked as a valet, and has shifted without using the clutch in three different cars- 02 Nissan SE-R, 92 Accord, and 01 Civic.

 

[Kishan]

I learned on a 92 Accord. Getting momentum is difficult at first, but after that its cake. Remember to ease off the clutch, and ease onto the gas. Shifting onwards is just like a video game then.

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: KPSHAH316
can someone explain how to power shift, and shift without the clutch? I have a friend who is really good since he worked as a valet, and has shifted without using the clutch in three different cars- 02 Nissan SE-R, 92 Accord, and 01 Civic.

You just have to match the revs. IE, if you're going from 3rd to 4th you pull out of 3rd and drop it into 4th when the rpm matches the speed for 4th gear. I've done it before. Its useful if you happen to have a clutch failure while driving (ie a cable snapping)

 

[Kishan]

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: KPSHAH316
can someone explain how to power shift, and shift without the clutch? I have a friend who is really good since he worked as a valet, and has shifted without using the clutch in three different cars- 02 Nissan SE-R, 92 Accord, and 01 Civic.

You just have to match the revs. IE, if you're going from 3rd to 4th you pull out of 3rd and drop it into 4th when the rpm matches the speed for 4th gear. I've done it before. Its useful if you happen to have a clutch failure while driving (ie a cable snapping)

thats what he said-match the revs. where does the rpm match the speed for 4th gear though? Can you explain what that means really? Also, I understand what power shifting does, but how do you do it?

Also, is this bad for the car at all? I would think if you fvck up, it would be bad for the syncros, but theres no wear on the clutch from this.

I must say, the best experience with stick I ever had was when I drove an evo and it went to 60 in 1st gear-that was fun

 

[kdp]

Originally posted by: KPSHAH316

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: KPSHAH316
can someone explain how to power shift, and shift without the clutch? I have a friend who is really good since he worked as a valet, and has shifted without using the clutch in three different cars- 02 Nissan SE-R, 92 Accord, and 01 Civic.

You just have to match the revs. IE, if you're going from 3rd to 4th you pull out of 3rd and drop it into 4th when the rpm matches the speed for 4th gear. I've done it before. Its useful if you happen to have a clutch failure while driving (ie a cable snapping)

thats what he said-match the revs. where does the rpm match the speed for 4th gear though? Can you explain what that means really? Also, I understand what power shifting does, but how do you do it?

Also, is this bad for the car at all? I would think if you fvck up, it would be bad for the syncros, but theres no wear on the clutch from this.

I must say, the best experience with stick I ever had was when I drove an evo and it went to 60 in 1st gear-that was fun

yeah there's pretty much no way in hell you're telling the truth.

 

[Kishan]

Originally posted by: kdp

Originally posted by: KPSHAH316

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: KPSHAH316
can someone explain how to power shift, and shift without the clutch? I have a friend who is really good since he worked as a valet, and has shifted without using the clutch in three different cars- 02 Nissan SE-R, 92 Accord, and 01 Civic.

You just have to match the revs. IE, if you're going from 3rd to 4th you pull out of 3rd and drop it into 4th when the rpm matches the speed for 4th gear. I've done it before. Its useful if you happen to have a clutch failure while driving (ie a cable snapping)

thats what he said-match the revs. where does the rpm match the speed for 4th gear though? Can you explain what that means really? Also, I understand what power shifting does, but how do you do it?

Also, is this bad for the car at all? I would think if you fvck up, it would be bad for the syncros, but theres no wear on the clutch from this.

I must say, the best experience with stick I ever had was when I drove an evo and it went to 60 in 1st gear-that was fun

yeah there's pretty much no way in hell you're telling the truth.

i may be exaggerating, but around 50, sure. This thing was modded, exhaust, intake, shiftgates, chip, etc. He was putting a Alpine in dash lcd into it.

 

[geno]

Originally posted by: kdp

Originally posted by: KPSHAH316

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: KPSHAH316
can someone explain how to power shift, and shift without the clutch? I have a friend who is really good since he worked as a valet, and has shifted without using the clutch in three different cars- 02 Nissan SE-R, 92 Accord, and 01 Civic.

You just have to match the revs. IE, if you're going from 3rd to 4th you pull out of 3rd and drop it into 4th when the rpm matches the speed for 4th gear. I've done it before. Its useful if you happen to have a clutch failure while driving (ie a cable snapping)

thats what he said-match the revs. where does the rpm match the speed for 4th gear though? Can you explain what that means really? Also, I understand what power shifting does, but how do you do it?

Also, is this bad for the car at all? I would think if you fvck up, it would be bad for the syncros, but theres no wear on the clutch from this.

I must say, the best experience with stick I ever had was when I drove an evo and it went to 60 in 1st gear-that was fun

yeah there's pretty much no way in hell you're telling the truth.

To be fair you don't even know if it was a stock Evo

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: KPSHAH316

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: KPSHAH316
can someone explain how to power shift, and shift without the clutch? I have a friend who is really good since he worked as a valet, and has shifted without using the clutch in three different cars- 02 Nissan SE-R, 92 Accord, and 01 Civic.

You just have to match the revs. IE, if you're going from 3rd to 4th you pull out of 3rd and drop it into 4th when the rpm matches the speed for 4th gear. I've done it before. Its useful if you happen to have a clutch failure while driving (ie a cable snapping)

thats what he said-match the revs. where does the rpm match the speed for 4th gear though? Can you explain what that means really? Also, I understand what power shifting does, but how do you do it?

Also, is this bad for the car at all? I would think if you fvck up, it would be bad for the syncros, but theres no wear on the clutch from this.

I must say, the best experience with stick I ever had was when I drove an evo and it went to 60 in 1st gear-that was fun

Rev-matching. Say you're going 40. Rev-matching is know what rpm your engine turns in 4th gear when you're goin 40. There's no way the tranny will do into gear unless the engine is spinning the correct speed.

 

[kdp]

Well the Alpine in dash LCD changes everything, all bets are off now! :roll:

 

[myusername]

Originally posted by: KPSHAH316

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: KPSHAH316
can someone explain how to power shift, and shift without the clutch? I have a friend who is really good since he worked as a valet, and has shifted without using the clutch in three different cars- 02 Nissan SE-R, 92 Accord, and 01 Civic.

You just have to match the revs. IE, if you're going from 3rd to 4th you pull out of 3rd and drop it into 4th when the rpm matches the speed for 4th gear. I've done it before. Its useful if you happen to have a clutch failure while driving (ie a cable snapping)

thats what he said-match the revs. where does the rpm match the speed for 4th gear though? Can you explain what that means really? Also, I understand what power shifting does, but how do you do it?

Also, is this bad for the car at all? I would think if you fvck up, it would be bad for the syncros, but theres no wear on the clutch from this.

I must say, the best experience with stick I ever had was when I drove an evo and it went to 60 in 1st gear-that was fun

For example you are driving 30mph in second gear, and revs are at 5000. Assuming the car does 30mph in third gear at 2000rpm, you would pull the car out of second, hit the throttle (stick is in neutral position) until the tach hits 2000, and then slam it into third.

edit: and yes, that would be a weird ass gearbox for those numbers

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: kdp

Originally posted by: KPSHAH316
I must say, the best experience with stick I ever had was when I drove an evo and it went to 60 in 1st gear-that was fun

yeah there's pretty much no way in hell you're telling the truth.

To be fair you don't even know if it was a stock Evo

Or it could have just been a stock lancer. I should check but I don't think it'll do 60 in 1st anyway.

 

[Kishan]

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: KPSHAH316

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: KPSHAH316
can someone explain how to power shift, and shift without the clutch? I have a friend who is really good since he worked as a valet, and has shifted without using the clutch in three different cars- 02 Nissan SE-R, 92 Accord, and 01 Civic.

You just have to match the revs. IE, if you're going from 3rd to 4th you pull out of 3rd and drop it into 4th when the rpm matches the speed for 4th gear. I've done it before. Its useful if you happen to have a clutch failure while driving (ie a cable snapping)

thats what he said-match the revs. where does the rpm match the speed for 4th gear though? Can you explain what that means really? Also, I understand what power shifting does, but how do you do it?

Also, is this bad for the car at all? I would think if you fvck up, it would be bad for the syncros, but theres no wear on the clutch from this.

I must say, the best experience with stick I ever had was when I drove an evo and it went to 60 in 1st gear-that was fun

Rev-matching. Say you're going 40. Rev-matching is know what rpm your engine turns in 4th gear when you're goin 40. There's no way the tranny will do into gear unless the engine is spinning the correct speed.

makes sense.

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: myusername
For example you are driving 30mph in second gear, and revs are at 5000. Assuming the car does 30mph in third gear at 2000rpm, you would pull the car out of second, hit the throttle (stick is in neutral position) until the tach hits 2000, and then slam it into third.

And if you do it right, it slides right in. No grinds or anything.

 

[Kishan]

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: kdp

Originally posted by: KPSHAH316
I must say, the best experience with stick I ever had was when I drove an evo and it went to 60 in 1st gear-that was fun

yeah there's pretty much no way in hell you're telling the truth.

To be fair you don't even know if it was a stock Evo

Or it could have just been a stock lancer. I should check but I don't think it'll do 60 in 1st anyway.

turbo and such. let alone what the registration sticker said.