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If you know people with both types of pistols, or if there is a rental range around there, I definitely recommend trying both out before you buy. The best pistol for one person is not necessarily the best pistol for another.
 
Originally posted by: BoberFett
The Glocks I've fired felt lightweight and cheap. The only 9mm I've fired was a Glock and it stovepiped fairly often. I don't know if that was due to being a 9mm or being a Glock.

I'm a bigger guy so I prefer a larger, heavier gun. I like a heavy, full-frame pistol so I've got a Sig P226 .40. It also helped that I found one for $280, that was the deal of a lifetime. I've never fired an H&K, but when I held one at the shop it felt nice and balanced.

Edit: The only way to buy a pistol is to go to a range and try them out. What's good for one person isn't good for another.
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Did you at least give him a kiss after that?😀 j/k

 
what's the gun for? Everyone talks 9mm, .45, .40 when a 380 auto is probably a way better choice esp for the weaker guys if you need to get off multiple rounds.
 
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: BoberFett
The Glocks I've fired felt lightweight and cheap. The only 9mm I've fired was a Glock and it stovepiped fairly often. I don't know if that was due to being a 9mm or being a Glock.

I'm a bigger guy so I prefer a larger, heavier gun. I like a heavy, full-frame pistol so I've got a Sig P226 .40. It also helped that I found one for $280, that was the deal of a lifetime. I've never fired an H&K, but when I held one at the shop it felt nice and balanced.

Edit: The only way to buy a pistol is to go to a range and try them out. What's good for one person isn't good for another.
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Did you at least give him a kiss after that?😀 j/k
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I should have. It was used, but barely. It looked like new, I can't imagine it had more than a hundred rounds through it.
 
Originally posted by: alkemyst
what's the gun for? Everyone talks 9mm, .45, .40 when a 380 auto is probably a way better choice esp for the weaker guys if you need to get off multiple rounds.
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The 9mm is relatively easy to control, the vast majority should not have a problem.
Also, 9mm is cheaper than .40 and .45.
 
I have both an H&K USP expert and an older Glock 17 (ex NYC police gun with a new trigger) and it comes down to a matter of personal preference.

You really need to go rent them both and see what works best for you. You also need to realize that the USP series has a much wider range of options such as external safetys, decocker, DAO, etc. The USP also has an integral lock which may also be a consideration for you, especially if you live in a state where that is required.

We can't really tell you which of those very different handguns works best for you.
 
I don't like Glocks. I just don't. I can't tell you why... they just don't feel good to me. And they're ugly.

I like the H&K USP Compact a lot. My only complaint about H&Ks is they feel a little barrel heavy. I would choose the H&K

Also consider Sig. I'm the proud owner of a 220, a 226, a 228 and a 238. Beautiful guns, and among the best made in the world. The standard for international law enforcement.
 
Go .45 instead. Colt 1911 - they can be had cheaply, and were the standard US Military sidearm from 1911 until... Like 1990, when Colt dropped the 1911 and went into production with the 1991 (Though the 1911 is back in production as a WW1 throwback model right now - these look REALLY slick, not sure on pricetag). The military then switched to the Berretta 92. That, and they look REALLY cool.

If you must do a nine, go with a H&K.
 
There was nothing wrong with the .45 1911 design. It is just that the U.S military had not bought any in a long time before (decades) switching to the 92 9mm.

Also the Beretta in 9mm was to be compatable with existing stocks of NATO ammo IIRC.
 
Don't let these noobs turn you against the 9mm. The 9mm pistols we have today are wondernines! They have 15 round magazines and P+ ammunition. They can generate huge amounts of impact energy, nearly to the level of a .45.

A 9mm will kill someone just as sure as a .45. Just make sure you shoot them in the right place, because neither one will help you if you miss.
 
Originally posted by: Nebor
Don't let these noobs turn you against the 9mm. The 9mm pistols we have today are wondernines! They have 15 round magazines and P+ ammunition. They can generate huge amounts of impact energy, nearly to the level of a .45.

A 9mm will kill someone just as sure as a .45. Just make sure you shoot them in the right place, because neither one will help you if you miss.
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As long as your hands are a little over average size, you can handle a 45ACP with a 13 round magazine, which makes the quantity advantage of a 9mm almost go away. And the quality advantage of the 45 is still there.

IIRC the FBI agents in the Miami shoot-out that led to the FBI ditching the 9x19 were using +P rounds

If you absolutely have to use a 9mm, use a 9x23mm. Of course, that wipes the 9x19's advantages of cheapness and availability, but if you want a 9mm that will perform close to or at 45 levels, thats what to get (in pistol rounds)
 
Thanks for all your suggestions. I have personally fired a couple of firearms, and I don't like the Berreta because it's a little larger for my hands (and too much military in it). I think I will go with the H&K USP23.

As for the reason for the gun, my parents convenience store was robbed, twice, in one week, at knife point.
 
Originally posted by: cr4zymofo
Thanks for all your suggestions. I have personally fired a couple of firearms, and I don't like the Berreta because it's a little larger for my hands (and too much military in it). I think I will go with the H&K USP23.

As for the reason for the gun, my parents convenience store was robbed, twice, in one week, at knife point.
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Eh. I wouldn't bet my life on a nine killing an invader. In order to get me to operate a convenience store, you'd have to give me a .50 or a 12 gauge - somthing with some frickin stopping power.

 
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: cr4zymofo Thanks for all your suggestions. I have personally fired a couple of firearms, and I don't like the Berreta because it's a little larger for my hands (and too much military in it). I think I will go with the H&K USP23. As for the reason for the gun, my parents convenience store was robbed, twice, in one week, at knife point.
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Eh. I wouldn't bet my life on a nine killing an invader. In order to get me to operate a convenience store, you'd have to give me a .50 or a 12 gauge - somthing with some frickin stopping power.
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Thanks for the advise, but I was a Marine (I do have some firearms training 😉), and I wasn't gonna shoot any one, unless I absolutely have to. I just want to detain the bastages and hand them over. As for stopping power, trust, me, 10 9mm slugs will stop any body.
 
Another vote for going to the shooting range and renting what they have to do a comparison. My brother in Bermingham,Alabama, collects H&K's. Very wicked looking
firearms.
I have several Walther's but much preferr shooting my M57 S&W. At least I can hit pop cans with it.

Rent & shoot.
 
I'd go Glock, get a new model with the finger grooves. I personally like the grip better than the plain older ones. IMO, the H&K are great, but the Glock is a better value.
 
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