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Hell is freezing over! A cop is actually doing time for a screwup!

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OBLAMA2009 said:
but being an idiot shouldnt be a defense or absolve someone of responsibility either. he didnt even express any type remorse until he was convicted, not that shedding some crocodile tears should get him a lower sentence either.

mehserle is clearly a violent person and a danger to the public, he needs to be taken off the streets for a good long time
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Being an idiot or a klutz isn't as bad as a cold, racist, murderer. Also, he was remorseful. You're listening to other delusional cop-haters and taking their biased statements ("no remorse") as fact.

I don't think he was a violent person. Committing such an act in front of a crowd of vengeful cop-haters is a death wish.
 
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amdhunter said:
Someone should carelessly shoot him in the face. Hopefully he gets the shit beat out of him every single minute he spends in jail.
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lol you mean the penalty for "carelessly" shooting someone in the back should be to be "carelessly" shot in the face? if that were that case i think we'd start seeing a lot better law enforcement behavior and a lot fewer "careless" shootings of people in the back
 
OBLAMA2009 said:
here in the bay area people keep pointing out that vick killed a dog and got 4 years and mehserle killed a human and he'll end up getting 7 months (yes 7 months is how much time hell actually end up serving for shooting an unarmed person in the back)

i think he did deliberately shoot him but maybe didnt expect to kill. the victim begged him not to shoot him because he had a daughter and that is what set the thug cops off and made one of them pull the gun and shoot him in the back. they didnt have any reason to pull anything out while he was lying on the ground, a stun gun or a gun

if grant had killed mehserle, hed be on death row
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What Vick did was intentional. An accident is different (though accidents still deserve to be punished when gross negligence is a factor).
 
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Ichinisan said:
Being an idiot or a klutz isn't as bad as a cold, racist, murderer. Also, he was remorseful. You're listening to other delusional cop-haters and taking their biased statements ("no remorse") as fact.

I don't think he was a violent person. Committing such an act in front of a crowd of vengeful cop-haters is a death wish.
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mehserle may or may not have meant to kill but he was/is a violent thug and he should have been held responsible for his actions
 
Ichinisan said:
What Vick did was intentional. An accident is different (though accidents still deserved to be punished when gross negligence is a factor).
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i think a lot of people would diagree that it was unintentional but in any case he still killed someone and should have been punished for that whether or not it was intentional and whether or not he is sorry after the fact
 
OBLAMA2009 said:
mehserle may or may not have meant to kill but he was/is a violent thug and he should have been held responsible for his actions
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This cop was held responsible for his actions.

OBLAMA2009 said:
i think a lot of people would diagree that it was unintentional
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I'm saying those people are inexcusable idiots. Do you think he did that intentionally in front of all those people in an area that is NOTORIOUS FOR RACE RIOTS? Maybe if he was suicidal.

Ever heard of "innocent until proven guilty?" There's a reason we have a right to that assumption.

OBLAMA2009 said:
but in any case he still killed someone and should have been punished for that whether or not it was intentional and whether or not he is sorry after the fact
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He was punished. The punishment was appropriate for negligent involuntary manslaughter.
 
Ichinisan said:
What Vick did was intentional. An accident is different (though accidents still deserve to be punished when gross negligence is a factor).
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But at what point does using excessive force stop being classified as an accident. Did the guy face down really need to be tasered? Sure grabbing the wrong weapon can be called an accident... but the guy was killed needlessly because the cop felt the need to inflict uneccessary pain.
 
HEY RACIST PRICKS, THE COP IS HISPANIC!!!

WHAT DO YOUR RACIST PRICKS SAY TO THAT?

Funny how the issue change once it's no longer "black" and "white" huh? Just call it for what it is, a bunch of you are nothing but a bunch of racist scums. You couldn't care less if a black thug murders anyone (which happens just about every damn day), but when a black scum of society gets shot, watch out!

 
You do realize there is racism of black people against black people right? Racism isn't just white against all others. It can be other races versus other races and the same race vs the same race.

It's complicated.

Sucks all around. The cop drew his handgun and not his taser and acted very impulsively. He thought he had his taser and he had his handgun instead. Sucks man.
 
boomhower said:
You got to be fucking kidding me. You really think he intentionally shot the guy in the back?
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Uh, what? He intentionally pulled out his gun. The guy was already cuffed and laying on his stomach. He shot him and knew what he was doing. It was murder.
 
MrRamon said:
Uh, what? He intentionally pulled out his gun. The guy was already cuffed and laying on his stomach. He shot him and knew what he was doing. It was murder.
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You a idiot!

If you believe for one second any sane human is going to execute another while being filmed by hundreds of other in a crowded train station, you have deeper issues than just being retarded.
 
SSSnail said:
You a idiot!

If you believe for one second any sane human is going to execute another while being filmed by hundreds of other in a crowded train station, you have deeper issues than just being retarded.
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Yeah, because a taser has never killed anyone.
 
MrRamon said:
Uh, what? He intentionally pulled out his gun. The guy was already cuffed and laying on his stomach. He shot him and knew what he was doing. It was murder.
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And you know this how? Might as well pull the winning lottery numbers out of your ass while you're at it. I'll be waiting.
 
jlee said:
And you know this how? Might as well pull the winning lottery numbers out of your ass while you're at it. I'll be waiting.
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He pulled out a weapon. regardless if gun or taser. Why didn't the other officers pull out theirs if the situation was so out of control?
 
rudder said:
But at what point does using excessive force stop being classified as an accident. Did the guy face down really need to be tasered? Sure grabbing the wrong weapon can be called an accident... but the guy was killed needlessly because the cop felt the need to inflict uneccessary pain.
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We can't make the call. Grant (the guy on the ground) was resisting arrest and it took several officers at once to try and get him cuffed. The cop announced to the others that he was going to tase him (so they would not be touching the target when it happened).

We just don't know if tasing was appropriate or not. It was a tragic accident and the cop is getting punished. Some lowlifes on this forum want him to be executed or brutally beaten for it. That's just wrong.

MrRamon said:
Uh, what? He intentionally pulled out his gun. The guy was already cuffed and laying on his stomach. He shot him and knew what he was doing. It was murder.
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Lies. Despite contradictory statements from the victim's family/friends, the victim still wasn't cuffed shortly after the shot.

After some initial resistance, he started complying with police by laying on his stomach. When he heard one officer instruct another to arrest him, he immediately resumed resisting arrest. If charged with a crime, this would have been his "third strike" (read about three-strikes law). The victim was chemically "compromised" and distressed at the likely possibility of extended jail time. They couldn't get him to put both arms back and he wouldn't stop trying to get one of his hands near his waistband. If true, tasing might have been appropriate.

MrRamon said:
He pulled out a weapon. regardless if gun or taser. Why didn't the other officers pull out theirs if the situation was so out of control?
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He announced to the other officers that he was going to tase. They got out of the way. You wouldn't use a taser while other people are touching the target, or they might also take the hit. It only takes one officer to tase a man on the ground.
 
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SSSnail said:
HEY RACIST PRICKS, THE COP IS HISPANIC!!!

WHAT DO YOUR RACIST PRICKS SAY TO THAT?

Funny how the issue change once it's no longer "black" and "white" huh? Just call it for what it is, a bunch of you are nothing but a bunch of racist scums. You couldn't care less if a black thug murders anyone (which happens just about every damn day), but when a black scum of society gets shot, watch out!
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this.
 
so people who say it's not such a big deal, it's only an accident, you'd be ok with the guy patrolling your neighborhood? This guy is either a murderer or too stupid to be carrying a gun.

I'm not saying people should riot but if people will riot when their teams wins this seems like a far more important issue.
 
holden j caufield said:
so people who say it's not such a big deal, it's only an accident, you'd be ok with the guy patrolling your neighborhood? This guy is either a murderer or too stupid to be carrying a gun.

I'm not saying people should riot but if people will riot when their teams wins this seems like a far more important issue.
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It's an accident, and it IS a big deal. He was punished for it, and he deserved to be punished.

I don't think ANYONE said that it's "no big deal." Sheesh.
 
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