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Yreka

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So other than the shadows in BF2, are there any other IQ differences ? I mean you did say "i have to say the IQ looks way better then the x1900xt.", or were you just over-stimulated ?

Nitro, would love to hear your impressions coming from the 1800 as well. I remember you were fairly enamored with the ATI IQ coming from the 7800 series was it ? How *if at all* has that changed ?



I am so ready to be rid of the ATI driver bull$hit, CCC, ATI Tool, etc, etc. At this point, I am just looking for a reason, and the only thing that keeps me clinging to the ATI is the Image Q.
 

Jules

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Yreka
So other than the shadows in BF2, are there any other IQ differences ? I mean you did say "i have to say the IQ looks way better then the x1900xt.", or were you just over-stimulated ?

Nitro, would love to hear your impressions coming from the 1800 as well. I remember you were fairly enamored with the ATI IQ coming from the 7800 series was it ? How *if at all* has that changed ?



I am so ready to be rid of the ATI driver bull$hit, CCC, ATI Tool, etc, etc. At this point, I am just looking for a reason, and the only thing that keeps me clinging to the ATI is the Image Q.

Well maybe i was :).

here it goes. on my x1900xt with cats 6.3 also used 6.2 Shadows sucked certain parts of terrain looked like the color was missing. insides of the Planes/helo's look pixilated.
The 7900gtx looks great the shadows are great the terrain is great and the planes/helos look crisp and not pixilated.
 

allies

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Instead of paying that much money for a video card, invest in some paint for your room :) Just, kidding... I'm jealous of the card!
 

Jules

Lifer
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Originally posted by: allies
Instead of paying that much money for a video card, invest in some paint for your room :) Just, kidding... I'm jealous of the card!

Hehe im only 17. and paint? meh i barley look at that wall.
 

Jules

Lifer
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so far im hitting 690/1760 with zero artifacts and the temps are only at 57c load and 37 idle gonnae try 700/1760. talk about saving money :)
 

nitromullet

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Originally posted by: Yreka
So other than the shadows in BF2, are there any other IQ differences ? I mean you did say "i have to say the IQ looks way better then the x1900xt.", or were you just over-stimulated ?

Nitro, would love to hear your impressions coming from the 1800 as well. I remember you were fairly enamored with the ATI IQ coming from the 7800 series was it ? How *if at all* has that changed ?

God I hate you all, you are gonna have me selling my XT and getting a GTX. :p

I am so ready to be rid of the ATI driver bull$hit, CCC, ATI Tool, etc, etc. At this point, I am just looking for a reason.

Well, honestly, the IQ from the 7800's to the 7900's appear to be the same. Like I said, the ATI AF is fantastic, but I think that the NV AA is a bit better. As far as shimmering goes, they both shimmer in WoW (as the article at HardOCP says), which is the primary game I notice it on. The ATI colors are nicer, period. Just more vivid. I messed with the gamma settings for the 7900GTX, and it is a noticable improvement over the defaut though.

Really, you won't go wrong with either card, they are truely both great cards.

As far as making the switch:

Maybe I'm a bit chapped because I paid an ASS LOAD of money for the X1800XT back in Dec, and ATI has decided that they will now give away this card for free with the purchase of a car wash at the local gas station. I know, I know video cards aren't an investment, and I knew the X1900's were coming, but maybe I just want to put this reminder of an extremely poor monetary decsion on my part behind me. I tried to salvage the purchase by going Crossfire, but I wasn't too impressed with the motherboard, and the load time for all the .net crap seems to be double for a CrossFire setup. Not to mention that the boot time period was quite long for a "high performance" rig IMO (It took forever to get though the POST screen . The gaming performance was astonishing though, and the IQ was great with AA levels through the roof. That being said, I experienced a few VPU recovers, and quickly decided that I didn't much care for them. The single card X1800XT setup was rock stable, so I have to assume that the VPU recovers occured because of either CrossFire or the motherboard. I am not a fan of instability or long boot times, so the CrossFire set had to go. Plus, the single 7900GTX was cheaper than the additional X1800 Xfire Ed + motherboard.

I really hate the CCC crap, and I'm not interested in running the Tray Tool. After installing the GTX and ForceWare, I feel like a weight has been taken off of my PC... And damn, I won't miss that noise.
 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
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Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth
Originally posted by: Yreka
So other than the shadows in BF2, are there any other IQ differences ? I mean you did say "i have to say the IQ looks way better then the x1900xt.", or were you just over-stimulated ?

Nitro, would love to hear your impressions coming from the 1800 as well. I remember you were fairly enamored with the ATI IQ coming from the 7800 series was it ? How *if at all* has that changed ?



I am so ready to be rid of the ATI driver bull$hit, CCC, ATI Tool, etc, etc. At this point, I am just looking for a reason, and the only thing that keeps me clinging to the ATI is the Image Q.

Well maybe i was :).

here it goes. on my x1900xt with cats 6.3 also used 6.2 Shadows sucked certain parts of terrain looked like the color was missing. insides of the Planes/helo's look pixilated.
The 7900gtx looks great the shadows are great the terrain is great and the planes/helos look crisp and not pixilated.

If you get a chance, can you provide some screenshots of BF2 comparing the two? It would be a great help in making me decide between the two. What are you going to do with the X1900XT?

FWIW - Wreck posted some screenies for me comparing his X1900XTX and 7800GTX using the same resolution and AA/AF. The ATI looks better in regards to the fence and building, imho.

X1900XTX - http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c146/NinjaWreck/screen047.jpg
7800GTX - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v99/u..._adolph/BF22006-02-1117-23-51-8661.jpg
 

Jules

Lifer
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Originally posted by: nitromullet
Originally posted by: Yreka
So other than the shadows in BF2, are there any other IQ differences ? I mean you did say "i have to say the IQ looks way better then the x1900xt.", or were you just over-stimulated ?

Nitro, would love to hear your impressions coming from the 1800 as well. I remember you were fairly enamored with the ATI IQ coming from the 7800 series was it ? How *if at all* has that changed ?

God I hate you all, you are gonna have me selling my XT and getting a GTX. :p

I am so ready to be rid of the ATI driver bull$hit, CCC, ATI Tool, etc, etc. At this point, I am just looking for a reason.

Well, honestly, the IQ from the 7800's to the 7900's appear to be the same. Like I said, the ATI AF is fantastic, but I think that the NV AA is a bit better. As far as shimmering goes, they both shimmer in WoW (as the article at HardOCP says), which is the primary game I notice it on. The ATI colors are nicer, period. Just more vivid. I messed with the gamma settings for the 7900GTX, and it is a noticable improvement over the defaut though.

Really, you won't go wrong with either card, they are truely both great cards.

As far as making the switch:

Maybe I'm a bit chapped because I paid an ASS LOAD of money for the X1800XT back in Dec, and ATI has decided that they will now give away this card for free with the purchase of a car wash at the local gas station. I know, I know video cards aren't an investment, and I knew the X1900's were coming, but maybe I just want to put this reminder of an extremely poor monetary decsion on my part behind me. I tried to salvage the purchase by going Crossfire, but I wasn't too impressed with the motherboard, and the load time for all the .net crap seems to be double for a CrossFire setup. Not to mention that the boot time period was quite long for a "high performance" rig IMO (It took forever to get though the POST screen . The gaming performance was astonishing though, and the IQ was great with AA levels through the roof. That being said, I experienced a few VPU recovers, and quickly decided that I didn't much care for them. The single card X1800XT setup was rock stable, so I have to assume that the VPU recovers occured because of either CrossFire or the motherboard. I am not a fan of instability or long boot times, so the CrossFire set had to go. Plus, the single 7900GTX was cheaper than the additional X1800 Xfire Ed + motherboard.

I really hate the CCC crap, and I'm not interested in running the Tray Tool. After installing the GTX and ForceWare, I feel like a weight has been taken off of my PC... And damn, I won't miss that noise.
Well i dont agree. i think the 7900gtx looks better then my x1900xt.
 

CP5670

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Maybe I'm a bit chapped because I paid an ASS LOAD of money for the X1800XT back in Dec, and ATI has decided that they will now give away this card for free with the purchase of a car wash at the local gas station.

Seriously? :Q What brand is this gas station? I wish I could find something like that in my area.
 

nitromullet

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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth
Originally posted by: Yreka
So other than the shadows in BF2, are there any other IQ differences ? I mean you did say "i have to say the IQ looks way better then the x1900xt.", or were you just over-stimulated ?

Nitro, would love to hear your impressions coming from the 1800 as well. I remember you were fairly enamored with the ATI IQ coming from the 7800 series was it ? How *if at all* has that changed ?



I am so ready to be rid of the ATI driver bull$hit, CCC, ATI Tool, etc, etc. At this point, I am just looking for a reason, and the only thing that keeps me clinging to the ATI is the Image Q.

Well maybe i was :).

here it goes. on my x1900xt with cats 6.3 also used 6.2 Shadows sucked certain parts of terrain looked like the color was missing. insides of the Planes/helo's look pixilated.
The 7900gtx looks great the shadows are great the terrain is great and the planes/helos look crisp and not pixilated.

If you get a chance, can you provide some screenshots of BF2 comparing the two? It would be a great help in making me decide between the two. What are you going to do with the X1900XT?

FWIW - Wreck posted some screenies for me comparing his X1900XTX and 7800GTX using the same resolution and AA/AF. The ATI looks better in regards to the fence and building, imho.

X1900XTX - http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c146/NinjaWreck/screen047.jpg
7800GTX - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v99/u..._adolph/BF22006-02-1117-23-51-8661.jpg

The screen shots need to be taken from the EXACT same location for them to be comparable.
 

nitromullet

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Originally posted by: CP5670
Maybe I'm a bit chapped because I paid an ASS LOAD of money for the X1800XT back in Dec, and ATI has decided that they will now give away this card for free with the purchase of a car wash at the local gas station.

Seriously? :Q What brand is this gas station? I wish I could find something like that in my area.

LOL... I think it's Quick Trip :)
 

Jules

Lifer
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Originally posted by: nitromullet
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth
Originally posted by: Yreka
So other than the shadows in BF2, are there any other IQ differences ? I mean you did say "i have to say the IQ looks way better then the x1900xt.", or were you just over-stimulated ?

Nitro, would love to hear your impressions coming from the 1800 as well. I remember you were fairly enamored with the ATI IQ coming from the 7800 series was it ? How *if at all* has that changed ?



I am so ready to be rid of the ATI driver bull$hit, CCC, ATI Tool, etc, etc. At this point, I am just looking for a reason, and the only thing that keeps me clinging to the ATI is the Image Q.

Well maybe i was :).

here it goes. on my x1900xt with cats 6.3 also used 6.2 Shadows sucked certain parts of terrain looked like the color was missing. insides of the Planes/helo's look pixilated.
The 7900gtx looks great the shadows are great the terrain is great and the planes/helos look crisp and not pixilated.

If you get a chance, can you provide some screenshots of BF2 comparing the two? It would be a great help in making me decide between the two. What are you going to do with the X1900XT?

FWIW - Wreck posted some screenies for me comparing his X1900XTX and 7800GTX using the same resolution and AA/AF. The ATI looks better in regards to the fence and building, imho.

X1900XTX - http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c146/NinjaWreck/screen047.jpg
7800GTX - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v99/u..._adolph/BF22006-02-1117-23-51-8661.jpg

The screen shots need to be taken from the EXACT same location for them to be comparable.
what level is that?? ill take screens once i get the info

 

Yreka

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Originally posted by: nitromullet
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I think I will wait awhile, and if AA in EQ2 is still broken at the time I can get an EVGA GTX under $500, I will pull the trigger.

Thanks for the info,
 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
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Originally posted by: nitromullet
The screen shots need to be taken from the EXACT same location for them to be comparable.
That's why I asked MyStupidMouth for some screenies.

Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth
what level is that?? ill take screens once i get the info

1280x1024 4xAA 16xAF and all BF2 video settings - high

Thx Man!
 

Jules

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: nitromullet
The screen shots need to be taken from the EXACT same location for them to be comparable.
That's why I asked MyStupidMouth for some screenies.

Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth
what level is that?? ill take screens once i get the info

1280x1024 4xAA 16xAF and all BF2 video settings - high

Thx Man!

Im running 1680x1050 on a 2005fpw with 4xAA and 16x AF with all settings High but you still havnt told me where this place is at

 

AzNPinkTuv

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Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth
Just got this today from ZZF. i swapped it ou for a x1900xt and i have to say the IQ looks way better then the x1900xt. in bf2 the shadows looked crappy compared to the 7900gtx anyone else got theres yet?

dude your post doesnt even make sense... i swapped it out for a x1900xt? surely you mean from a.... hard to understand your message too...


it looks crappy? what looks crappy...

not to be grammer police or anything but PLEASE try to use better grammer so its legible
 

Jules

Lifer
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Originally posted by: AzNPinkTuv
Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth
Just got this today from ZZF. i swapped it ou for a x1900xt and i have to say the IQ looks way better then the x1900xt. in bf2 the shadows looked crappy compared to the 7900gtx anyone else got theres yet?

dude your post doesnt even make sense... i swapped it out for a x1900xt? surely you mean from a.... hard to understand your message too...


it looks crappy? what looks crappy...

not to be grammer police or anything but PLEASE try to use better grammer so its legible

No thanks.

 

nitromullet

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Originally posted by: Yreka
Originally posted by: nitromullet
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I think I will wait awhile, and if AA in EQ2 is still broken at the time I can get an EVGA GTX under $500, I will pull the trigger.

Thanks for the info,

good call... I don't think I would switch from an X1900XT either...
 

Jules

Lifer
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Originally posted by: nitromullet
Originally posted by: Yreka
Originally posted by: nitromullet
snip



I think I will wait awhile, and if AA in EQ2 is still broken at the time I can get an EVGA GTX under $500, I will pull the trigger.

Thanks for the info,

good call... I don't think I would switch from an X1900XT either...

True but got tired of the crappy shadows in bf2 and the crappy control panel. glad i came back to nvidia since i had the 7800gt. great drivers

 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
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Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: nitromullet
The screen shots need to be taken from the EXACT same location for them to be comparable.
That's why I asked MyStupidMouth for some screenies.

Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth
what level is that?? ill take screens once i get the info

1280x1024 4xAA 16xAF and all BF2 video settings - high

Thx Man!

Im running 1680x1050 on a 2005fpw with 4xAA and 16x AF with all settings High but you still havnt told me where this place is at

Sorry man, I read your question wrong. You don't have to take a screenshot of the same spot but it's the back side of the TV Station on the Sharqi Pennisula map.
 

Elfear

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Originally posted by: Yreka
So other than the shadows in BF2, are there any other IQ differences ? I mean you did say "i have to say the IQ looks way better then the x1900xt.", or were you just over-stimulated ?

Nitro, would love to hear your impressions coming from the 1800 as well. I remember you were fairly enamored with the ATI IQ coming from the 7800 series was it ? How *if at all* has that changed ?



I am so ready to be rid of the ATI driver bull$hit, CCC, ATI Tool, etc, etc. At this point, I am just looking for a reason, and the only thing that keeps me clinging to the ATI is the Image Q.


Yreka- Have you tried ATI Tray Tools yet? I have never used CCC before because Tray Tolls works so well. Also what problems are you having with the drivers and ATI Tool?

Sorry to go off topic OP. Just wanted to see if we can help Yreka.
 

rstrohkirch

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I switched from 6.2ccc to the 6.2omega drivers and the block shadows went away in bf2
Still haven't tried 6.3ccc
 

akugami

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Originally posted by: MyStupidMouthTrue but got tired of the crappy shadows in bf2 and the crappy control panel. glad i came back to nvidia since i had the 7800gt. great drivers

I know multiple people have already asked but can you post screenshots of the problem? Is this going to be like another Farcry shadow rendering problem where nVidia incorrectly renders shadows? Aside from the shadows are there any other problems with the X1900? Who stares at shadows when they're playing a FPS?