heh, seems it's already kicking the bucket

[tweakboy]

How secure do SSD's need to be in your rig. Like you just lay it somewhere on the bottom or you gotta make sure its screwed on and all that jazz!

 

[zCypher]

How secure do SSD's need to be in your rig. Like you just lay it somewhere on the bottom or you gotta make sure its screwed on and all that jazz!

You're joking right? Everything is always screwed in. There's a bracket that comes with the SSD to make it fit properly. Or you could just do away with having a case altogether, just let everything dangle freely and breathe happy! lol

 

[groberts101]

since the grounding is done through the wiring.. velcro or physically laying the SSD's wherever they can be safely tucked away is perfectly fine. Might look sloppy as hell.. but works just fine. lol

 

[Shmee]

lol tweakboy.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Let us know how the rma turns out for you. My first sf ssd, adata s599 croaked before it was 3 months old and it took adata over 3 weeks to complete the rma process. Now I'm using an ocz agility 2 120gb as my boot drive with it being cloned to my adata replacement drive as backup. Intel and samsung ssd's are looking more appealing all the time.

 

[zCypher]

Let us know how the rma turns out for you. My first sf ssd, adata s599 croaked before it was 3 months old and it took adata over 3 weeks to complete the rma process. Now I'm using an ocz agility 2 120gb as my boot drive with it being cloned to my adata replacement drive as backup. Intel and samsung ssd's are looking more appealing all the time.

I will definitely, I haven't heard anything yet, still waiting for them to send the RMA instructions. The Crucial seems like a solid choice too. We'll see what OCZ does for me, but either way I'm never keeping anything important on my boot drive so it's not too bad.

 

[Puffnstuff]

I learned years ago that boot drives and data storage don't mix well so I keep a separate drive for that.

 

[zCypher]

Finally got the RMA instructions so I'll be sending my drive out today or tomorrow.
I wonder what the longest life span for SSD has actually turned out to be in real world so far?

 

[zCypher]

I hotplugged the Vertex2 while booted up with my WD Black. Still was not able to secure erase, still says frozen. I was able to update to 1.33 firmware this time though and I booted up from the Vertex2.

 

[zCypher]

Ended up freezing but this time giving BSOD then reboot and hanged at the detection part of booting up. Powered it off, unplugged all the other drives, powered it on with only the SSD and put Windows CD in and it got stuck at the same time as last time giving I/O error. Pretty sure there's no way to make it work.

What's scary is my mom's system I built recently with a Vertex3 has started freezing with exactly the same symptoms as mine, and hers IS running in AHCI mode. I already set it up to run off the WD Black for now. That is craziness.

 

[groberts101]

What's even crazier is that many who have issue can load Linux, XP, or simply enable IDE mode in W7 through a reg hack and regain stability. What's that say?

What a PITA.. and that's for sure.

 

[zCypher]

Dropped it at the post office today, so we'll see how this goes. I wonder if it's even possible to have an SSD run nice and stable on this computer at all.

I was copying some files from one WD Black to another WD Black, 500MB of drivers (so I don't have to redownload them after I do my next reinstall), could not sustain a file transfer rate above 1.6MB/s! :| Next I copied some video files which did go up to 90MB/s but dropped to just under 50MB/s before finishing. Not to mention the system was near unusable during the file copy. I can't wait to be on SSD again!

 

[Puffnstuff]

Sounds like you might have some other issues. Using atto my wd black drive has maximum transfer rates in the 150 range, about half of what my agility 2 does.

 

[zCypher]

Sounds like you might have some other issues. Using atto my wd black drive has maximum transfer rates in the 150 range, about half of what my agility 2 does.

I had no problem getting numbers above 100MB/s in benchmark (ATTO) for both my WD Black drives. Copying other files, I was in fact able to transfer at 100MB/s but it seems the type of file being copied will dramatically affect the transfer rate (compression?).

 

[Cerb]

Dropped it at the post office today, so we'll see how this goes. I wonder if it's even possible to have an SSD run nice and stable on this computer at all.

I was copying some files from one WD Black to another WD Black, 500MB of drivers (so I don't have to redownload them after I do my next reinstall), could not sustain a file transfer rate above 1.6MB/s! :| Next I copied some video files which did go up to 90MB/s but dropped to just under 50MB/s before finishing. Not to mention the system was near unusable during the file copy. I can't wait to be on SSD again!

Even w/ AHCI? I've been mostly been using F3s and F4s, these days, and the above is almost unfathomable. Even copying small-file-filled drivers and source code, I rarely get under 10MB/s. 90MB/s for large files is about right. Though, the system seeming almost unusable compared to an SSD would still be the case. W/o AHCI, I would go crazy using mechanical drives, today.

I had no problem getting numbers above 100MB/s in benchmark (ATTO) for both my WD Black drives. Copying other files, I was in fact able to transfer at 100MB/s but it seems the type of file being copied will dramatically affect the transfer rate (compression?).

I don't think any of them do compression. The actual type of file should not have any effect, but size will, as will how often it has been written to, for large files (fragmentation isn't the problem it used to be, but highly-fragmented large files won't copy as fast as large files of few fragments).

 

[groberts101]

it seems the type of file being copied will dramatically affect the transfer rate (compression?).

this is true since Sandforce relies on compression for max write speeds. Use incompressible data(vids, pics, music, zips, rars, etc) on a Sandforce controlled drive?.. and you get the worst case performance.

Luckliy as an OS volume you won't be doing constant sequential writes of totally incompressible data like you may do with a HDD based storage volume. Windows lives in the small random files with more easily compressed data and these drives sure ain't slow by any measure.

With Sandforce.. it's all about the averages throughout the entire work session and not just that single task by itself.

 

[beginner99]

Sigh... I really hate seeing people having all these problems with SSDs. They really just need to work, now, for everybody in every computer.

They work perfectly fine as long as you avoid SandForce and OCZ.

 

[zCypher]

Well, I have not been able to find any options in my BIOS that have to do with AHCI so maybe it running in IDE mode is part of the problem too. This might just be what I need to push me to upgrade my system.

 

[groberts101]

They work perfectly fine as long as you avoid SandForce and OCZ.

I must be the luckiest guy around this joint then.. cause all 7 of my drives work flawlessly on just this system alone(and 6 are in R0 so go figure that one out).

Then there's the other 4 running on friends/family's that haven't missed a beat either. Have to know the limitations of all hardware involved.. and know how to set them up, I guess.

My other 8 OCZ drives spread about the other systems around here are also without issue. Maybe I should be playing the lottery more often, eh?

 

[zCypher]

I must be the luckiest guy around this joint then.. cause all 7 of my drives work flawlessly on just this system alone(and 6 are in R0 so go figure that one out).

Then there's the other 4 running on friends/family's that haven't missed a beat either. Have to know the limitations of all hardware involved.. and know how to set them up, I guess.

My other 8 OCZ drives spread about the other systems around here are also without issue. Maybe I should be playing the lottery more often, eh?

go buy some lotto tickets right now
seriously i'm sure it's like anything else. there's a percentage of the drives that will fail, and the rest are going to be fine. in my case, I got the bad ones and you got all the good ones. Damn you!

Confirmed my drive was successfully delivered Sept 16th with tracking number and signature required, they have not yet updated the ticket (still shows not received and no tracking number). I added a comment to the ticket myself with the date/tracking number just in case. It does they are replacing the drive with an identical one though.

 

[zCypher]

replacement shipping today... yay! cant wait to be back at ssd speeds, even if it blows up on me in 5 months from now

edit: UPS attempted delivery, I need to wait till tomorrow since they won't do pickups on same day of delivery attempt... grr

 

[zCypher]

got replacement
first attempt: got an error message saying it could not create or find a partition (???)
I rebooted and was able to successfully install.

 

[tweakboy]

Just run off your WDC and RMA your SSD. I don't think firmware can bring a dead drive to life. Hope the RMA goes fast and you get your drive back. gl

 

[zCypher]

Just run off your WDC and RMA your SSD. I don't think firmware can bring a dead drive to life. Hope the RMA goes fast and you get your drive back. gl

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I did RMA my drive, and I just received the replacement today.

 

[groberts101]

firmware revision 1.35 is now available and may actually help to redice the dreaded panic locks of the 1xxx series drives. That's the "word on the street" anyways and only time will tell the real story.

Only took them 1.5 years to do it.. but better late than never, I guess. lol